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Wikidata weekly summary #241

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Category:Leap years has been nominated for discussion

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Wikidata weekly summary #242

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Magioladitis.

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The Bugle: Issue CXXIX, January 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #242

Differences between tracking categories and Wikidata

From above: comparing this tracking category with this list (items on Wikidata that use the CWGC person ID), the differences are not those without articles. Do you know why the following 11 articles are not showing up in the tracking categories? Bungy Watson, Cecil Rawling, Christopher Furness (VC), Dick Thomas (rugby union), Edgar Mobbs, Francis Aylmer Maxwell, James Brindley Nicolson, John Henry Carless, Keith Lucas (scientist), Reggie Schwarz, Ronald Simson? I think some are missing the CWGC template over here, and I think the others had the ID migrated to Wikidata before the tracking categories were set up (though not sure why that would make a difference). Carcharoth (talk) 13:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

@Carcharoth: No idea - you might need to ask on WP:VPT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:45, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
OK. @JJMC89: first, as the creator of the tracking categories, but then I'll try VPT. Carcharoth (talk) 13:50, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@Carcharoth: Christopher Furness (VC) and James Brindley Nicolson do not have {{CWGC}}. The others you listed are not in the tracking category because they do not have |id=CWGC person ID in {{CWGC}}; {{CWGC}} is getting the ID from Wikidata, so there is no |id= to compare against. — JJMC89(T·C) 15:08, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@JJMC89: thank-you. I thought that might be the case, but was puzzled to not see these articles (with no id parameter) not showing up in 'Category:CWGC template with no id set'. If it is easy to explain, could you say what in the template is populating the categories? I looked at the source text in the edit window, but cannot work it out. Can I also ask if you were aware when setting these categories up that Category:CWGC person ID different from Wikidata is intentional in cases where the template is used to reference the death of someone else other than the subject of the article (for A. E. J. Collins his younger brother and for Percy Clive his elder son)? This is not the same as picking up an error (where the ID is wrong). Do you think it will be possible to distinguish these cases, or should they just be periodically checked for? There will (eventually, when I or someone gets round to it) be hundreds, maybe thousands in these categories, so I want to make sure it is set up right at the start. Carcharoth (talk) 15:28, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@Carcharoth: The CWGC person ID categories are populated by {{WikidataCheck}} (Module:WikidataCheck). Category:CWGC template with no id set is populated if |id= is not provided and there is no ID on Wikidata. I realize that there are cases where the IDs should not match. It is not possible to automatically distinguish intentional and unintentional mismatches. Possible solutions: 1) Use different templates for references and external links with the former not using Wikidata. 2) Modify Module:WikidataCheck to allow category suppression via a template parameter. — JJMC89(T·C) 17:08, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@JJMC89: thank-you again. Hopefully final question: is it possible to track the articles that are calling the parameter from Wikidata? i.e. the ones where the parameter was either successfully transferred, or was just called directly. I realise this might be a silly question with a simple answer, and I realise that all four tracking categories are supposed to identify where work is needed (hence it might make sense to do as you suggest above re category suppression or handling those ones differently), but what is used to track the work done correctly (as opposed to incorrectly)? I suppose you can just query Wikidata to get that answer - maybe that functionality could be added to {{WikidataCheck}}? Carcharoth (talk) 17:22, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@Carcharoth: It is possible to track the ones using the Wikidata property with no |id= (could be added to WikidataCheck), but they don't need maintenance, so why would we need to track that case? (This case used to be included in the different from Wikidata category.) Others don't even want to have a category for ones that are the same (local ID could be removed), see Cfd: Category:Commons category with page title same as on Wikidata. — JJMC89(T·C) 17:53, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, Pigsonthewing. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Hashtags, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

  1. edit the page
  2. remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
  3. save the page

Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

DrStrauss talk 11:25, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Note

Andy, please do not revert my edits again or interact with me in any way. SarahSV (talk) 20:31, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll revert any of your edits, per policy, that I deem unsuitable. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:32, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

The Shire

Some 5 years ago, you floated the idea of a Wikipedia:WikiProject Staffordshire. Did you receive any/much positive feedback? Keri (talk) 11:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

@Keri: Very little, but what there was was positive. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

IRC?

Are you on IRC? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing)

@Zackmann08: Generally no, but I can fireup Freenode in a browser if need be. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:12, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
@Zackmann08: Was that just a general enquiry? ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:37, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Yea. I use it from time to time to converse with editors on here. If you don't use it then disregard. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:43, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

23:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 January 2017

Wikidata weekly summary #243