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15:38, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Where-geo

Template:Where-geo has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 05:54, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Italic title in infobox

In Magnificat in E-flat major, BWV 243a, the title should not be italic. {{infobox opera}} seems to have a solution, but I am not sure I understand it enough to copy it to {{infobox Bach composition}} . --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: That should be working, now. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:02, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, it's not "working" yet, - seems always to take a while until a template change is visible in what we see --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Yes it is; see Wikipedia:Purge. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:47, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I purged the page with the method to go to edit and replace "edit" by "purge". Still italic. Also: there was a conflict of DISPLAYTITLE, "fixed", but now we have a header that has the BWV number also italic, which is not wanted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: The template works, you just have to tell it what you want it to do! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:40, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Now I see the article title straight, as should be, but Magnificat in the infobox is still italic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:48, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: The italics are hard-coded into the infobox, but can be over-ridden like this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:56, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, always learning. I didn't want to change the hard-coding because then almost all articles would have needed a change, but now someone did that anyway. Not so sure anymore. infobox musical composition doesn't have that hard-coding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:00, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

I tried to fix this as the Magnificat but didn't succeed. Bach cantata worked. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: You had two |name= parameters. Now fixed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:34, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
I almost knew I overlooked something stupid. Had a hospital pick-up so wasn't focused. Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #267

Template:Cite Q

I've been reading the Wikidata-related Op-Ed in The Signpost and thinking of my struggles adding a reference to Wikidata. Then your addition to Breastfeeding popped up on my watchlist. Wonderful. May I bombard you with questions the next time I enter a reference? It would be nice if there were a function in Wikidata that would take the wikitext of a formatted reference and parse it into the correct (or almost correct) fields? I remember the process of creating each field as rather slow. StarryGrandma (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

By all means ask for help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:31, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
I love having the Wikidata link in the reference; it makes the source very easy to fix if there is a problem. However I am hoping for a way to keep Cite Q friendly for source editors. (My experience with Cite doi before the changeover was painful.) I am thinking of something like {{cite Q|Q28474683|Lancaster 2004|pages=6–7}}[1] or {{cite Q|Q28474683|pages=6–7|Lancaster, Making Time}}.[2] These actually work just fine at the moment. Just change the usage to
{{Cite Q| XXQIDXX |page= |access-date= |quote= |memo or comment}}
adding "2= = memo or comment to label the reference for ease in source editing" or something like that.
Currently Visual Editor is well-enough developed that one can see what the reference is while editing. The issue is for source editing. The wonderful change of showing references in preview for section editing is a great help. (I would often forget to remove the reflist I had put in.) However dealing with a large section with many cite doi references in those days was difficult, with only a long number differentiating a reference and a long preview reference section far up the page.
StarryGrandma (talk) 17:10, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

You can do this with an HTML comment

{{cite Q|Q28474683|pages=6–7}}<!-- Lancaster 2004 -->

or:

{{cite Q|Q28474683|pages=6–7<!-- Lancaster 2004 -->}}

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I like this, particularly with the comment inside the template where it is less likely to be removed by another editor. While Visual Editor takes blank spaces out of references when edited, it leaves comments alone. StarryGrandma (talk) 23:27, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

@StarryGrandma: On reflection, it's better to do this with the name attribute on the citation:

<ref name="Lancaster 2004">{{cite Q|Q28474683|pages=6–7}}<ref />

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Since I often already name references even though I only use them once I like that too. That fits in completely with the usual appearance of a reference and no one would be tempted to change it. StarryGrandma (talk) 12:54, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Jane Lancaster (2004). Making Time: Lillian Moller Gilbreth, a Life Beyond "Cheaper by the Dozen". Northeastern University Press. pp. 6–7. ISBN 978-1-55553-612-1. OL 8574074M. Wikidata Q28474683.
  2. ^ Jane Lancaster (2004). Making Time: Lillian Moller Gilbreth, a Life Beyond "Cheaper by the Dozen". Northeastern University Press. pp. 6–7. ISBN 978-1-55553-612-1. OL 8574074M. Wikidata Q28474683.

15:32, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #268

15:07, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Midland-Metro-Key

Template:Midland-Metro-Key has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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05:50, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 July 2017

Templates for hillforts

As you know more about templates, infoboxes, wikidata & inter-operation between them etc than anyone else I know would you be able to add any thoughts at Wikipedia talk:GLAM/Oxford/hillforts#Infobox and other questions.— Rod talk 17:16, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #269

22:59, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

tnx yr work on Politecnico article

pls let me know if yr gonna be in milan during school yr -- met at Esino, not sure abt Montreal -- love 2 hv tea -- best to keep institution name in original lang, i wot - phi (talk) 11:25, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Portable Antiquities Scheme : translation in French

Hello. I've found your call for some work on this article on the French Wikipedia with quite a delay, while reading the Bistro des non-francophones (the non-French-speakers forum), something I rarely do. If you think it would be useful to translate anything else from English to French, don't hesitate to ask me directly. The PAS catched my interest because it's an interesting initiative I hadn't heard of, a pragmatic way to ease the quarrel between official and unofficial archeologists and to gather as much data as possible. It seems to me it's a smart move. I plan to extend the article, wich is a stub for now, in the fr.wiki. Amicalement Aluminium (talk) 22:24, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

@Aluminium: Thank you! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)