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Tom Vardon

Hi Andy, you tagged this page with 'not cited/referenced' I have been working mainly from 'Saywell, J., (1990) A History of the Ilkley Golf Club 1890-1990, Otley, Smith Settle' and have added this with page nos. as references, is this OK ? Yorkshiresoul (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Uncertain birth dates

Thanks for your comments. I respectfully disagree with the revert to John J. Mullen (mayor).

The changes to the birth dates were made in accordance with the following guideline at WP:BORN (a section in WP:MOSNUM:

  • When the year of birth is known only approximately: "John Sayer (c. 1750 – 2 October 1818) ..."

Since we know he was born in either 1875 or 1876 (because his age at death is known), "circa 1875" is appropriate.

In addition, a forward slash between dates is used to signify a night, as in this from WP:DATEFORMAT (a section in WP:MOSNUM:

  • A night may be expressed in terms of the two contiguous dates using a slash (the bombing raids of the night of 30/31 May 1942).

Although I firmly believe in WP:BOLD, your changes to WP:MOSNUM should not be made without consensus of Wikipedia editors. Your added guideline is the only one, for example, where the words born and died are both included; all other guidelines simply show the range separated by an endash. Therefore, I am reverting the WP:MOSNUM change and adding it to the WP:MOSNUM talk page, where editors can discuss it. Truthanado (talk) 16:57, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll reply there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:49, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Any news about Wolvopedia?

Hi Andy,

Do you have any news regarding Wolvopedia? Did you get support for the project?

Cheers,

John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Support in principle, with further discussions in the coming weeks. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:36, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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Ovelgönne Bread Roll

Hello! I have made the next rough translation. May I ask you to have a short look on it? What is your opinion, should the article name (Lemma) be in capital letters like Ovelgönne Bread Roll or should it be Ovelgönne bread roll? Because parts of the articles are in capitals some not. --Bullenwächter (talk) 13:02, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

WikiThanks
WikiThanks

Thank you for helping me. Bullenwächter (talk) 15:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

My pleasure - the picture of the replica roll is making me hungry! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
I would recommend NOT to eat the replica as it is at least 4 years old ;-)) --Bullenwächter (talk) 15:57, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

And the next one is ready Metzendorf-Woxdorf head of burial --Bullenwächter (talk) 07:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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I was away, hence the delay. Since everything manmade is an artefact, we need to look at the primary interest in the object, which I think in this case is the cameo as a work of art. Dougweller (talk) 09:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Gibraltar-related deletion discussions

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DYK for Tangendorf disk brooch

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Gibraltarpedia deletion proposal

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Proposed Deletion of A Madness Shared by Two

Hi, excuse me for not being too up on this: It's that the original Ursula and Sabina Eriksson entry on wikipedia, that's been listed for a long time, is incorrect. I entered the 'A Madness Shared by Two' page, for this is a new book by a publishing company that is to be released on the 28th October 2012. It explains the 'truth' and the evidence within the book, is now being used to challenge the incorrect version of events in regards to this case. The case is going to be raised in the House of Commons by Rob Flello MP this October asking for an enquiry into the case, again relying on the evidence provided in A Madness Shared by Two. Surely it makes sense to have correct and up to date pages on wikipedia, than the current one that's been up for over 4yrs, that is wrong and incorrect in many cases. Could you please perhaps help us, so as I can get around any problems you or wikipedia might have.

Many thanks - Jay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayfkay (talk • contribs) 19:19, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Articles need to meet our notability standards, citing reliable sources. If there are problems with Ursula and Sabina Eriksson, then they need to be fixed; not a new article created. If you're not sure how to fix them, please raise the matter on the article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:30, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I see you have deleted both entries, yet you say it's okay to go onto the orignal page and amend [edit] it. This I did, yet it's also been removed? As you know the success of wikipedia, is according to how correct the articles actually are. Yet as I say the 'original' Ursula and Sabina Eriksson, is blighted with inaccuracies, yet it's still going strong. We have come across powerful new data that effects what is being stated on that page, and why I thought it would be a good idea to let people know about this new evidence that has been discovered, so those who are reading the current original page know of what has since developed. Even if the A Madness Share by Two page is not currently acceptable, the editing I did on the Ursula and Sabina Eriksson page, should at least be permitted.

Thanks Jay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayfkay (talk • contribs) 19:43, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I haven't deleted any entries. I have advised you on what to do about alleged errors in Ursula and Sabina Eriksson. New evidence, as I pointed out, requires sources. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:58, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Categories

I am working from an offsite toolserver list which had over 2,000 uncategorized articles on it this morning. I don't know about you, but I am certainly not going to manually Hotcat 2,000 articles in one day -- particularly given that I don't always know what the proper categories are. (And, just for the record, I do frequently skip tagging and just directly hotcat articles if they happen to fall within the areas that I know how to properly categorize.) In fact, tagging the articles as uncategorized is an entirely valid and correct procedure per Wikipedia:WikiProject Categories, which enables the entire project to work on getting the articles properly categorized rather than depending on just one person to do all the work by themselves. Bearcat (talk) 20:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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Alexandria Forrester

Sorry, it actually says 'soap' in the article. No A7 for soap characters. Looks proddable. I'm trying to thing how to put it. You might beat me to it... Peridon (talk) 17:33, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

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Thought you might like to know. Peridon (talk) 21:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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William Augustus Hancock

Would you mind taking your differences with Nikkimaria to an appropriate talk page. Based upon the number of reverts appearing on my watchpage, it is looking like an edit war might break out over this article. --Allen3 talk 23:33, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Done. Though previous experience of attempting to discuss her infobox removals with her that she will not discuss reasonably and will ignore any resulting consensus not in her favour. I note that her response to your similar request on her talk page was to revert me a third time; then delete your comment unanswered. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

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blp tag

Could you not add the {{blp}} tag as that shouldn't be added to talk pages. Instead, if you could add {{WikiProject Biography|living=yes}}. Bgwhite (talk) 07:58, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Emil Wolfgang Menzel, Jr.

You added the pov template to Emil Wolfgang Menzel, Jr.. The template says "Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page", but you did not leave any comment there. Could you please specify where improvements could be made? Or could you make these improvements yourself instead of adding this template?

You also added the refimprove template. This is curious because the text is almost entirely a copy of the source including its references. There is not a single piece of text that is not accounted for. So why did you add this template? Are both templates justified or is this just a as a matter of course addition. Regards, Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 09:33, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I added it because there were a number of important biographical points with no citation. This was still the case, but since you admit that its copied from a source, it's not acceptable on Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:45, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank for this spontaneous and aggressive response. However, the source is released under CC Atribution 2.5. By taking this ping pong approach, I take it that I will not need to expect a motivated answer on my question? Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 19:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
WP:COPYVIO. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
It's not a copy violation! Jan Arkesteijn (talk)

Streets in Gibraltar

Started this. Please help improve by finding reliable sources about the roads and photographs.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thought you'd be pleased to know that MediaWiki now (finally) loads mediawiki:mobile.css for mobile stylesheet additions: see this, for example. I suppose now's the time to start tweaking it. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

That's great - thanks for letting me know. ~ Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

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Middle initial and no middle name

Hi Andy; re this edit - Harry H Corbett, Russell T Davies and Harry S Truman are three straight off the top of my head. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:20, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi - Silk Roads Editathon Seminar

Birmingham rains too much! Saramills4 (talk) 08:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for showing me to how to use wikipedia. Xancb (talk) 08:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, its raining today.Emma Lakin (talk) 08:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello! RXB037 (talk) 08:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello there Charl0891 (talk) 08:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Andy. Thank you for running this class! Naomi Standen (talk) 09:18, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Good work, everyone. Diffs:

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Wolvopedia update

Hi Andy, just wondering if anything else has happened regarding Wolvopedia? I missed the MakeTheShift event unfortunately, but am interested in developments. Cheers. Æthelred (talk) 21:24, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Discussions are ongoing. I'll let you know if and when anything happens. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, much appreciated. Æthelred (talk) 22:06, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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Heads up

Hi Andy, I've mentioned you at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Sound for people and places articles. Graham87 12:06, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

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What came of Template talk:Infobox officeholder#Formatting of name & honourifcs? -- Magioladitis (talk) 03:41, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Nothing :-( I've marked it as unresolved, to try to generate further discussion, or some action. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

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Don't send me warnings, to help your misguided friend. Or I will take steps against you for trying to bully me. Take part in the discussion on the talk page, state your opinion on the subject, argue. Kraxler (talk) 13:08, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Go ahead. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

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Google Earth

Hi Andy, I've mentioned you at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Two stations along side each other? (not in a bad way!). You may be able to comment on the discussion. Thanks. Optimist on the run (talk) 07:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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West Wycombe

Hello from WW

Hello, very interesting day. --Nigellacey (talk) 14:25, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello Mr Pigsonthewing

You have won the lottery.

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Hello from Rosemary Close

Greetings Andy, what a fantastic training session!

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Hello from West Wycombe

Hello Andy, I am so totally inspired by using Open Street Map and Wikipedia I am going to start writing lots of articles tonight.--LouiseBrown1981 (talk) 14:25, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hello

Hello Andy. --Ian Denny (talk) 11:45, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello

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Re:WikiProject Staffordshire

Hi Andy. Yes, I am still interested in this, although I may not get the chance to do much for a while. I've a few things going through GA just now and a WikiProject Birmingham to develop, but I'll do what I can. Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Is your account compromised?

Hi Andy; knowing of your fondness for metadata (COinS or otherwise), this edit surprised me. The |start= parameter of {{Infobox UK station}} is pushed through {{start date}}, so if anything else is present (including a second instance of {{start date}}), you get a right mess both in the visible appearance (have a look at the rows below the "History" heading) and in the emitted metadata:

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<li>Rebuilt 1862</li>
<li>Current building opened 1962</li>
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<li>Rebuilt 1844</li>
<li>Rebuilt 1862</li>
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This isn't like you. So, my question is: did you accidentally disclose your password when training recently? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:31, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

No. I've fallen for that before. It's really annoying that some infoboxes behave differently to the rest. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:35, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #33

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
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Harlequin Puppet Theatre

Hi Andy. I just sent you an e:mail because I couldn't remember how to start a new message on your talk page. Then, of course, about 10 seconds later I found this link and remembered. So the message is in your e:mail. I'll hopefully do it correctly next time! --Ian Denny (talk) 22:58, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

I haven't received your email. Please try again, or copy the message here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:43, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

During our training session, we looked at the Harlequin Puppet Theatre page. When I got home and logged in, I had another look at that page and another user, not you or I or the original author had completely re-written the article at 5pm that same evening. I was wondering if you did something to trigger that re-write as it seemed a remarkable coincidence. --Ian Denny (talk) 01:00, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

It is just a coincidence; please don't let that put you off from making further improvements. I'll make a few tweaks, now. Note discussion on the article's talk page, also. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:15, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

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Block message:

I'm in the middle of delivering a training session! {{User|Helen Johnson 98}} and {{User|Woollams}} are also affected.

Accept reason: Unblocked, although any admin should re-block if vandalism reoccurs in a few days. The Cavalry (Message me) 15:26, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Should now all be sorted. Let me know if any issues. The Cavalry (Message me) 15:29, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
In case the IP gets blocked again, I can also grant Helen Johnson and Woollams (or any other people who's participating) IP block exempt. Elockid (Talk) 14:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
If you could exempt the above, that would be great. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:42, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Are they still experiencing problems? Elockid (Talk) 15:11, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

re: John Moschitta Jr. page

Andy...hi we have communicated by email and you directed me to check out the situation on line. It appears the bulk of my page was deleted by someone named Yworo claiming lack of reliable sources. Since I do not have a copy of the page I have no idea what they are referring to or what they feel needs further citation. I have requested more information from Yworo but have not received anything from them as of yet. Here is a history of my correspndance with them :

My name is John Moschitta Jr and someone recently deleted the bulk of the article on the John Moschitta, Jr page. Was that you? And if it was please restore it. The information was accurate and should not have been deleted. Thank you John JMthe2nd (talk) 23:44, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Your claim that it is accurate is insufficient. Everything presented in the article of a living person must be cited to reliable sources. In this case, entire large sections of the article had no reliable sourcing and has been removed. If you can provide independent reliable sources not affiliated with the subject, then information based on those sources can be restored or added. Please note that IMDb is not considered a reliable source. We will need books, journal articles, newspaper articles, etc. Best regards, Yworo (talk) 23:48, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Since the bulk of the page has been deleted I can no longer view it to see what did and did not have citations. Most of the page was written by other contributors. It is my recollection that many of the deleted items did in fact have citations or links associated with them. Please be specific in what you feel needs to have further citations and send me the contents of what you have deleted for my review. Thank you. I look forward to getting the requested information from you. My best...John JMthe2nd (talk) 23:57, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Is it a usual occurance for another user to simply delete the bulk of a page? The timing of this action seems a bit suspect.It's interesting that today of all days when I am already having a problem Yworo decides to arbitrarily sign on to my page and delete it. The original version has been up for years and no one seemed to have a problem with it.

Please advise what I need to do to correct this situation. As I mentioned I am a "computer idiot" and find all the explanation pages extremely confusing to understand. I think so far I have been doing what I am supposed to but can't really be sure.

Thanks again for all your help....John JMthe2nd (talk) 00:22, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


Now someone else is messing with the John Moschitta, Jr page Singularity42. They have re-inserted the Steve Woodmore info with references that prove absolutely nothing. Call me paranoid, but it would seem there is a bit of a conspiracy going on with this page today and it's absolutely driving me crazy! What can I do to stop it?!?!?! JohnJMthe2nd (talk) 00:48, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

What on this page is wrong?

Andy ... I have looked at several Wiki pages of actors and found that the previous John Moschitta, Jr page (which the bulk of was deleted by Yworo for lack of citations) are lacking exactly the same citations especially when it comes to listing credits. I have pasted the old page below. Please let me know what is so incorrrect that Yworo has felt it necessary to delete it. (BTW...Yworo has re-edited my page a number of times and has finally posted a correct listing for Steve Woodmore and Sean Shannon. To her credit and at my request he/she has also corrected Steve Woodmore's page to reflect Sean Shannon's record)

Paste of past version of page

John Moschitta, Jr. (born August 6, 1954, in New York City), is a spokesperson and performer best known for his rapid speech delivery. He appeared in over 100 commercials as "The Micro Machines Man" as well as a 1981 ad for FedEx.

Moschitta had been credited in The Guinness Book of World Records as the World's Fastest Talker, with the ability to articulate 586 words per minute. (His record was later broken by the current record-holder, Steve Woodmore, who speaks 637 wpm.) Raised with five sisters, Moschitta often remarked that he needed to talk fast "just to get a word in edgewise".

Contents 

 [hide]  1 Early work
2 FedEx commercial
3 Other commercials
4 Television work
5 Other appearances
6 See also
7 References
8 External links

Early work

At an early age, he acted in local community theater and school productions. In the 1970s, Moschitta attended Nassau Community College, where he studied theater and appeared in over 14 shows in two years, including a production of Room Service alongside Nassau alum Billy Crystal. Moschitta was also a contestant on the game show The $25,000 Pyramid, in which he was paired with comedian Joan Rivers and won $10,500. He returned to the show on a number of occasions as a celebrity guest.

After several years working in television production in New York City, he was hired by Warner Communications as a producer and performer for QUBE, the world's first 2-way interactive cable system. QUBE premiered on December 1, 1977 in Columbus, Ohio, with eleven hours of live programming per day. Besides his local duties, Moschitta also hosted Nickel Flicks for the brand new Nickelodeon Network. The show aired nationwide three times per day, every day. In 1979, he moved to Los Angeles.

FedEx commercial

In 1981, after appearances on several television shows, Moschitta appeared on the ABC TV series That's Incredible! Patrick Kelly and Michael Tesch, employees of the Ally & Gargano ad agency, hired Moschitta after seeing him on the show. In the ad, "Fast Paced World" for Federal Express, directed by Joe Sedelmaier, Moschitta played a fast-talking executive named Jim Spleen. Considered to be the most award-winning commercial in the history of advertising, it garnered six Clio awards, including Best Performance–Male award for Moschitta. Turn-of-the-century polls named it the Most Effective Campaign in the History of Advertising and named Moschitta the Most Effective Spokesperson. The 40th-anniversary issue of New York Magazine (10/06/2008) crowned it "The Most Memorable Advertisement Ever" Advertising Age ranked the ad number 11 among the top-100 advertising campaigns of the 20th century.[1]

Other commercials

In addition to his commercials for Federal Express, he completed over 750 television and radio commercials, including national campaigns for Minute Rice, Quality Inn, Northwest Airlines, Olympus Camera, Mattel, Post Cereals, Tiger Games, Continental Airlines, Burger King, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, HBO, and Jet Blue. The "Great Cable Comparison" spot for HBO, in which he played a dozen characters, earned him his second CLIO recognition and a Silver Medal from the International Film and Television Festival of New York (1985). He played "The Micro Machines Man" in over 100 commercials that ran worldwide. Each one ended with the memorable tagline "Remember, if it doesn't say Micro Machines, it's not the real thing." Moschitta and various spots featuring his performances have won dozens of prestigious advertising awards.[citation needed] In 1996, Moschitta was honored by the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences (the Emmy organization) for his contribution to outstanding commercials.

Along with partners Jim Becker and Andy Mayer, John "Mighty Mouth" Moschitta recorded a pugnacious take on ten classic novels in which he summarizes each book's entire story in approximately one minute. Included in this collection, entitled Ten Classics in Ten Minutes, are Herman Melville's Moby-Dick; William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet; F Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby; Margaret Mitchell's Gone with the Wind; and John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath. Soon after, the team produced a second recording, Professor John Moschitta's Ten Minute University. It promised a traditional four-year college education in just ten minutes, and came with a mini-diploma. It featured rapidly-delivered, humorous, 60-second lectures on various subjects, such as comparative literature, physics, economics, psychology, and football. Both were originally released on audio cassette in the 1980s; they were released on CD in 2004, with accompanying books.

Television work

In 1990, Moschitta created the board game "Motor Mouth" with partners David Fuhrer and Mark Setteducati for Tiger Games. The game featured tongue twisters, a pair of plastic red lips that were passed around like a hot potato and an ever-ticking timer; the fast-paced game can also be found in other countries as "Tongue Tangle". An on-air radio version of the game was launched on the Game Show Network's GSN Radio station in December 2008. The advertising depicted him slowing down after introducing himself, then losing the game to family members due to a buzzer.

Moschitta has had regular, recurring or starring roles in many television shows, including Saved by the Bell; General Hospital; Madame's Place; Matt Houston; Trapper John, M.D.; Zorro and Son; The Half-Hour Comedy Hour; The Smothers Brothers Show; Sesame Street; and Callahan. In addition, he has made many guest-star appearances on shows such as Ally McBeal, Chicago Hope, The Big Easy, Caroline in the City, All That, Cousin Skeeter, The A-Team, Sisters, Spencer, 3-2-1 Contact, and Square One TV. He can be seen in the films Farce of the Penguins, Queerspiricy, Blankman, Dick Tracy, Going Under, Dirty Laundry, Starchaser: The Legend of Orin, Ratboy, and The Transformers: The Movie.

He read the rules on the 55th Annual Academy Awards, sang and danced on the Emmy Awards with other commercial icons (Dick Wilson—Mr. Whipple, Jane Whithers—Josephine the Plumber, Jesse White (actor)—the Maytag Repair Man, Virginia Christine—Mrs. Olson, Patsy Garrett—the Chow Chow Chow woman, and others) and appeared on television specials and news shows such as Motown 25, Bloopers, Disneyland 30th Anniversary, 60 Minutes, 20/20, Most X-treme, Real People, and co-hosted TV Land's Greatest Commercial with David Leisure (Joe Izusu). He was featured on VH1's 101 Favorite Stars and on I Love the 80s 3-D, for which he very quickly summarized each year's events. Celebrity game show appearances (as either the show's announcer or a panelist) include The $100,000 Pyramid, Family Feud, Win, Lose or Draw, Family Challenge, Balderdash, Identity and Hollywood Squares. He has been a Jeopardy! answer and a Who Wants to Be a Millionaire question.

Moschitta has made appearances on over 1,000 television and radio talk shows including The Tonight Show (with both Johnny Carson and Jay Leno); Oprah; and Good Morning America. In the corporate world, Moschitta has filmed videos or made personal appearances for over 350 of the Fortune 500 companies as well as many other companies. Moschitta has met and performed for eight US Presidents.

Other appearances

Moschitta appeared in the 1980s animated series The Transformers as the Autobot Blurr, a role which he reprised more than 20 years later for the Cartoon Network series Transformers Animated. He has also provided voices for characters on Family Guy, Garfield and Friends, Pinky and the Brain, Bobby's World and several episodes of Robot Chicken. As an announcer, he was the voice of TLC's Your Place or Mine?, PAX Network's Balderdash, Game Show Network's Scrabble and the final season of Hollywood Squares in syndication.

Moschitta's first love is theater and his favorite shows and roles include The Pirates of Penzance (Major General), Never Gonna Dance (Pangborn), Sweeney Todd (Pirelli), The Last of the Red Hot Lovers (Barney), Rock and Roll Heaven: The Musical Comedy (Satan), The Music Man (Harold Hill), and Arsenic and Old Lace (Dr. Einstein)

For many years, he has been involved in several charities and not-for-profit organizations. Besides working hands-on with many groups, he often volunteers his time to conduct live auctions at their gala events. The Los Angeles Times states that, as far as celebrity auctioneers go, "no one can suck money out of a room like John Moschitta Jr." To date he has raised over 20 million dollars for charity using his fast-talking talents.

Moschitta also voices a one-time character named "Key-per" from Adventure Time in the episode "The Enchiridion".

Thank you for your help... JohnJMthe2nd (talk) 02:21, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I can't resolve this for you; please follow the process at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:27, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
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