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Cookie!

As a thank you for accepting my draft, take this cookie!

Goldside852 (talk) 22:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Goldside852 Thanks, and good luck with your future articles! -- asilvering (talk) 23:41, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello

I have tried to add more to “reception” section. Stan Dane’s book has been noted by pro and anti researchers as showcasing Murphy’s good “process of elimination” research. Curiously, we have this short article, The Interloper: Lee Harvey Oswald Inside the Soviet Union, which inspires me to try to make this one. If you think that the draft could be accepted now, let me know. Regardless, I try to add more sources when I find them, whether the draft is accepted to be submitted or not. 82.40.149.241 (talk) 82.40.149.241 (talk) 13:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP, the problem with the stuff in the "reception" section, as I see it, is that the sources are responding to Sean Murphy's ideas, but this isn't an article about Sean Murphy or his ideas, it's an article on a book, Prayer Man, that is itself also about those ideas. What we need to see is that the book, Prayer Man, is notable. That means we want to see evidence of in-depth discussion of this book. Usually, the easiest way to do that is to find substantial reviews of the book, preferably scholarly ones. -- asilvering (talk) 23:39, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Pellerojo on Al Michaels (19:37, 13 February 2024)

Error in Al Michaels bio: Al's first television job in Hawaii, was as the 6 o'clock & late-night sports caster for KGMB-TV Honolulu (channel 9, CBS affiliate). His contract with Cecil Heftel (station owner/CEO at that time) was for one year between 1968 to 1969. I know, because I worked there with him every afternoon/night during that time. --Pellerojo (talk) 19:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Pellerojo, you're welcome to fix the article yourself, and please do! However, we can't just add information to biography articles without reliable, published sources - even things you know for sure are true because you were there. Can you find a source anywhere that we could use for this information? -- asilvering (talk) 22:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Electronic Literature project

HI and thank you for your interest in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronic literature - Wikipedia. We are great writers, but newbies to wikipedia. Did you want to join in on our monthly editathons? If so, could you give me an email address so I can invite you? Thanks! LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 22:34, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

@LoveElectronicLiterature Thanks for the invite! I'd love to, but I can't make this one. Hopefully I can join in in March. -- asilvering (talk) 22:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello dear

Please help me with this draft Draft:Aleksandar Saša Trajkovski - Wikipedia Мкдвики (talk) 18:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

@Мкдвики, right now there is a big list of URLs at the end, but the whole "early life and education section" has no footnotes. Did this information come from those URLs? If so, it will help a lot if you convert them to footnotes instead. -- asilvering (talk) 04:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
@Asilvering yes Yes, the entire text, every sentence is supported by all those links. Please help me with the footnotes too 🙏🏻 Now I need to turn the links below into footnotes or put sources for the Early life and education section? Мкдвики (talk) 07:13, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
@Мкдвики every sentence is supported by all of those links? That's definitely not true - I just checked the two English-language URLs, and they did not contain all of that information. (They were also not from independent, reliable sources, so I removed them, sorry.) What we're looking for is that, when you write a sentence, you put a footnote at the end of that sentence that shows where you got that specific information from. Can you do that? -- asilvering (talk) 07:27, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
I can not richt now. I can't do it now, because I'm at work and I don't have much experience, but I'm going to try. I thought you asked me if the whole text was supported by the sources, so I answered you with, yes. Мкдвики (talk) 07:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Smartiesfromlondis (17:53, 17 February 2024)

How to add a picture in article? --Smartiesfromlondis (talk) 17:53, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello

dear @Asilvering, I will give you all the necessary information you will ask me to successfully modify the draft for our poet . Take a new independent source that I used to make the Macedonian version of the poet (Биографија - Д-р Александар Саша Трајковски (archive.org), and I will give you another source for the critical look at his poetry from other writers, not From Elija and not by Sonja. Мкдвики (talk) 20:04, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kao972 (16:06, 18 February 2024)

I want to add a photo to a page about a true crime event. The photo was published by a law enforcement agency. I do not own the copyright, but wouldn't this be considered fair use? --Kao972 (talk) 16:06, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

@Kao972 I don't think so. The list of typical exemptions is at WP:NFCI, and I don't see anything there about photographs from law enforcement. Remember that Wikipedia's licence means that content can be reused for any reason, including commercial ones. I'm not 100% sure though, so I suggest you ask again at WP:CQ. -- asilvering (talk) 06:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda. <3 -- asilvering (talk) 06:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Lunatic Lateral

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Lunatic Lateral. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 50.225.13.170 (talk) 01:46, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
For sorting out tags of old articles! Kj cheetham (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
<3 -- asilvering (talk) 17:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kevintow (04:47, 24 February 2024)

Hi you're my mentor! yay.

I just edited an article with instruction to remove promotional contents, MGIEP but how much can I actually delete without missing any information? --Kevintow (talk) 04:47, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

@Kevintow Honestly, when you're dealing with promotional articles, the answer is "a lot". Rewrite instead of deleting where you can, but sometimes the only thing you can do is outright remove entire sections. If you're unsure, it might be a good idea to work in stages - delete a section in one edit, do a bunch of rewriting in another, etc. That way, if someone disagrees with you and wants to revert, they can revert just one of the things you've done instead of reverting all your work. -- asilvering (talk) 23:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red March 2024

Women in Red | March 2024, Volume 10, Issue 3, Numbers 293, 294, 299, 300, 301


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Is this a legitimate book?

I was trying to add references to this article (Amaya Station) and found this on Google Books (https://books.google.com/books/about/Railway_Stations_in_Fukushima_Prefecture.html?id=czycSQAACAAJ). It's peculiar that Wikipedia is listed as a publisher. Have you seen this before? LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 03:53, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Because wikipedia's license allows for anyone to use any of its content for any reason, including commercial reasons, you'll find books out there that are just wikipedia articles assembled into book shape. You can even buy some of them in print! They're useless for references, though, since you'd just be creating a citation loop of wikipedia-citing-wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 10:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Jewkrainian (03:20, 29 February 2024)

Hi! Can you please check my draft and move it to articles. Thank you --Jewkrainian (talk) 03:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jewkrainian, this won't be accepted in its present state, because it is an article on a living person that has significant sections with unclear sourcing. Can you provide footnotes to back up the claims? Also, you call this "my draft", but it's mostly written by Nafopedia. I see that you started editing as Jewkrainian after Nafopedia's last edit - did you forget the password to that account? If so, that's fine, though you may want to state that on your userpage. (You may also want to give some hint on your userpage that your current username is a tongue-in-cheek identity statement and not a slur, assuming that's the case.) -- asilvering (talk) 03:36, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
For sure you are right that it is not my article, that is my mistake. However, what would you recommend to do with a draft? Jewkrainian (talk) 03:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
You need to provide footnotes for the information in the article. Normally, I would say "where did you get that information? from what URL, book, etc? put that in the footnotes." But if you didn't write the original version, you have a harder job: you have to go find sources that support the content of the draft yourself. -- asilvering (talk) 03:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Fiction set in Denver

Please see my comment. Kdammers (talk) 22:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

@Kdammers I've replied at Draft talk:List of fiction set in Denver. -- asilvering (talk) 00:16, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Andysnitzer (00:15, 2 March 2024)

Hi.

The page, published about MY life and career, is riddled with embarrassing and amateurish factual errors. Yet, staff defend this embarrassing article over the factual corrections of the person in question. Makes no sense, irrespective of alleged procedures. --Andysnitzer (talk) 00:15, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@Andysnitzer I'm not sure what staff you're talking about. The staff of your company? I don't know what that has to do with anything. At any rate, you may need the instructions at WP:AUTOPROB. -- asilvering (talk) 00:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Oh right.. You publish a shoddy article on me, riddled with errors, obviously not properly sourced in the slightest regard, and then defend that information as legitimate
.
Reputation deserved... Andysnitzer (talk) 02:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
@Andysnitzer, I haven't done any of those things. You're welcome to rant at me if that makes you feel better, but the way to fix the problem you have is to follow the instructions in the link I gave you. Nobody who edits wikipedia wants it to be full of errors. If you think we do, it's because you've been yelling at us instead of listening to what we're trying to say. -- asilvering (talk) 02:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Carole W. Troxler edit request

Hi asilvering, if you have a moment or two, mind taking a look at this edit request on the talk page? To give you some background, this article was nom'd for deletion at the subject's request but was closed as no consensus. The article was also placed on indef extended confirm protection. I am certain the requestor is the subject and given they are an academic/historian, I think you can give their request a fair assessment. Of course no issue if you are not interested or other otherwise busy. S0091 (talk) 20:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

On it. -- asilvering (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks!!! I handled Andy Snitzer snafu above and I agree with them. No clue where some of the info in the article came from. S0091 (talk) 18:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Basit Commando (20:11, 3 March 2024)

How make money --Basit Commando (talk) 20:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Stamping (metalworking). -- asilvering (talk) 21:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

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Question from Matilda the rat (22:04, 4 March 2024)

Hi --Matilda the rat (talk) 22:04, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Matilda the rat, and welcome to wikipedia. You might want to read WP:GFYE. -- asilvering (talk) 22:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from "Wp.emmx" (08:37, 6 March 2024)

Hello How do I create a citation? --"Wp.emmx" (talk) 08:37, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

@"Wp.emmx" info at WP:REFB. -- asilvering (talk) 17:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Ru1955veesfan (18:48, 6 March 2024)

If a citation is a dead link, and I can't find something else to replace it, should I remove the citation? But then what about the information on the page that was gleaned from the citation? However the citation source can be found on the Wayback Machine, so it is still kind of in existence. --Ru1955veesfan (talk) 18:48, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ru1955veesfan if the citation can be found on Wayback, don't delete it! Add the archive link to the citation. You can do so easily in the source code editor by adding this (be sure to add the relevant information about the archive) to the citation template:
|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/<YYYYMMDDhhmmss>/http://www.originalurl.example.com |archive-date=<YYYY-MM-DD> |url-status=dead
The cite function in Visual Editor also makes this easy. WP:IABot can be run on articles to add archives automatically. But if one is already tagged as a dead link, you'll have to remove that tag before running the bot, or it will ignore it. -- asilvering (talk) 21:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft for McDonnell Douglas Aircraft

Draft:List of preserved McDonnell Douglas aircraft

Can you review it please? 220.240.159.127 (talk) 19:26, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

And don't forget this one too: Draft:List of preserved Airbus A320 aircraft 220.240.159.127 (talk) 20:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi IP, I can accept the first one, on the grounds that the parent topic is notable, but I think they're vulnerable to a deletion discussion on the basis that there aren't any sources on the lists that deal with the topic "preserved such-and-such aircraft" as a group, so watch out for that. For the second, I won't accept it because the only sources are the user-generated planespotters site. -- asilvering (talk) 18:40, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Pouget article

Hey @Asilvering! I'm not really experienced with this stuff, as I said, but I nominated my article on Émile Pouget for GA. Can you take a look at it? Not sure if it's against the rules to ask that, or am I supposed to wait for someone to volunteer. Aleksamil (talk) 12:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

@Aleksamil it's not against any rule I'm aware of to ask for someone to do a GA review for you, especially if they have an interest in the topic. I'd be happy to review it, but I have some outstanding reviews to finish before I should start any new ones. Let me clear up the reviews I have open first (just in case someone manages to get to Pouget for you earlier). -- asilvering (talk) 18:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Awesome, sounds good to me! Aleksamil (talk) 19:11, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

Citation Barnstar

This award is given in recognition to Asilvering for collecting more than 5 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's FEB24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing 14,300 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Ru1955veesfan (17:52, 9 March 2024)

Is there a guideline as to whether it is better to make a bunch of edits and publish once or to be more granular? I am thinking more the latter in case someone quibbled about a certain edit and want to revert it. --Ru1955veesfan (talk) 17:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

@Ru1955veesfan not really, no. It's up to you. I tend to work on about a paragraph at a time, unless I'm writing an article from scratch and I know it's very unlikely that anyone else will make any other edits in the meantime. Mostly, that's to avoid edit conflicts. When it comes to edits that you think might be controversial, but aren't so controversial that it's worth trying to get consensus on the talk page first, it's a good idea to separate those out and give a reasoning in your edit summary. You might also want to keep different types of editing separate (eg, tinkering with citations vs writing new sentences vs grammar fixes). -- asilvering (talk) 19:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Good article review archiving - thank you!

Thanks for your prompt to close reviews (here). I don't believe this is covered in the Good Article instructions which is why I missed it. I'll be sure to do it from now on :) Unexpectedlydian♯4talk‽ 16:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Huh, indeed it isn't! It looks like I didn't close my earliest reviews either, when I was following the instructions really closely. Now I'm just lazy and let the GAN tool do it for me. -- asilvering (talk) 19:05, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shu Shine F.C.

Hi, I believe this is notable - any chance you could draftify it for me? SportingFlyer T·C 21:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

@SportingFlyer, I think that would be a worse outcome than redirect (possible backdoor deletion if you wander away from the draft, and there's definitely no consensus for deletion in the AfD), but I'll revert the close so you can get your keep vote in. -- asilvering (talk) 21:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! I've added the sources I was able to quickly find to the discussion. SportingFlyer T·C 21:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Asilvering,
If you revert an AFD closure, make sure you have reverted your edits to the article and talk page as well. Thank you for your work today. Liz Read! Talk! 22:35, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
@Liz shoot, thanks for catching and fixing my mistake! Sorry about that. -- asilvering (talk) 22:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Rvaweb1 (00:46, 13 March 2024)

I would like to add my hiking method called tenderfoot. I am a guide and I teach this methodology of safe hiking. How do I add it? --Rvaweb1 (talk) 00:46, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Rvaweb1, that's not an appropriate topic for wikipedia, I'm afraid. It might be a possible topic at Wikivoyage, but I'm not sure, as I'm not really familiar with that wiki. -- asilvering (talk) 02:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from MrDCArmstrong (02:02, 13 March 2024)

I'm looking to create a basic wiki page about a family member as part of an ongoing biography of a living person. Do you have any suggestions on how to expedite the draft review to be published? --MrDCArmstrong (talk) 02:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @MrDCArmstrong, I will not expedite anything for that draft other than deletion. Please do not remake it. Thank you. -- asilvering (talk) 02:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Aisha Saleh Fantai (08:40, 13 March 2024)

Am editor in Hausa Wikipedia last 2 years till now. I want to create English article and become editor here but i start with creating article at the first but they blocked me the thought am manipulating there system --Aisha Saleh Fantai (talk) 08:40, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

That's because you are trying to write promotional content about yourself. This is not allowed on any Wikipedia. Whatever you want to write, do so first in draft space and await the result of a review. Deb (talk) 09:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I

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  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
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Question from Wagwan-my-g 1 (19:42, 14 March 2024)

Hello @Asilvering, how can I add external links --Wagwan-my-g 1 (talk) 19:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC) edited--8:00, 14 March 2024 (GMT)

@Wagwan-my-g 1, it's easy: just put [ ] around the URL. That might not always be what you want to do, though. What's your use case? -- asilvering (talk) 21:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you Wagwan-my-g 1 (talk) 22:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Wagwan-my-g 1 (22:50, 15 March 2024)

hello I don't know what to edit on the wiki and I am afraid that I will do the wrong thing like add false information. Could you give a wiki page or ideas that I can do pls.

Yours sincerely, Wagwan-my-g 1 --Wagwan-my-g 1 (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Wagwan-my-g 1, please don't take this as sarcasm: why are you here? Why do you want to edit wikipedia in the first place? If you are legitimately afraid that you will add false information to a wikipedia article, the obvious answer is "do not add anything to a wikipedia article until you know how to tell that the information you are adding is not false." There are other things you can do on wikipedia that aren't writing articles, and I might be able to direct you to one of them that matches your interests, but writing articles is the bulk of what we do here. -- asilvering (talk) 23:04, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
No this is not sarcasm this is my first time so I am worried. Wagwan-my-g 1 (talk) 23:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
plus I do get a bit sarcastic when worried please don't take it seriously Wagwan-my-g 1 (talk) 23:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
I was not saying that you are being sarcastic. I was saying that I was not being sarcastic. -- asilvering (talk) 23:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Sorry it is quite late here it is 11:45pm and I am a bit drowsy so I can't read things properly so I might just stop for tonight Wagwan-my-g 1 (talk) 23:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Question for my draft

Thank you for leaving comments on my Draft:The Babin Republic (Jan Matejko)! As suggested, I have added more citations. Do you think the article is ready to go public, or should I edit it some more? Zumot (talk) 21:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

@Zumot great, this is helpful! Can you fix the link that is in footnote 1? Right now, this doesn't lead me to a page on the website that contains the information in the sentences it's footnoting. -- asilvering (talk) 22:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Oh shoot - actually, I misread one of your new footnotes. These are definitely places that contain the information like Italian Renaissance painters too were fond of placing the scenes that typically played out indoors, such as banquets, in the great outdoors. But what we're looking for is citations that specifically support the content of the article you've drafted - ie, do you have a secondary source that is specifically linking Matejko's painting to Renaissance Italian humanism? -- asilvering (talk) 23:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
@asilvering Hi! Unfortunately, there is not much coverage of the painting in the secondary sources. Should we scrap the link to Renaissance Italian humanism entirely? --Zumot (talk) 18:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
@Zumot I think so, unfortunately, since the premise of a wikipedia article is that it is written from secondary sources - otherwise, what you end up doing is WP:OR. It's extremely obviously pastoral, so I wouldn't call it "original research" to say so, but something like The aesthetics and setting of the painting are closely tied to those favoured in Renaissance humanism is making a specific claim about the painting that someone could disagree with or prove otherwise (someone could say, for example, that the aesthetics and setting are closely tied to those favoured by his contemporaries, or whatever, instead), so we do want a statement like that to come from a published, secondary source. -- asilvering (talk) 23:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello again. I have removed any mentions of similarities between my painting and Italian Renaissance paintigs, as I had no literature to back up this claim. However, I left the discussion of pastoral literature as it relates to the people portrayed in the painting and is not too far-fetched. I hope it's good to go now! Zumot (talk) 21:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Accepted! Thanks for the article. -- asilvering (talk) 21:40, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much! You have taught me a lot, thank you for guiding me through the process. I also managed to edit interlanguage links and connect the article with its Polish version. Zumot (talk) 21:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Glad to hear it! Good luck with your future articles. -- asilvering (talk) 21:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Tea house response

Hi Asilvering. Thanks for your many responses at Tea house; in particular, one today here. You seem to have understood what they were asking, and I did not. What was all that about homepage-selected topics, and where do I read up on that? Thanks in advance, Mathglot (talk) 04:55, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

@Mathglot I got a newcomer homepage when I joined, but you won't have started with one. I'm not sure if you can turn it on. If you go to Preferences > User Profile, and scroll all the way to the bottom, do you see "Newcomer editor features"? If so, check "Display newcomer homepage". Then you can find it here, assuming I haven't messed up that URL. -- asilvering (talk) 05:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Oh, that's quite interesting, I can see why that would be helpful to new users, and the stats on the right are interesting for anyone. Now I see what the selected topics are. I'm guessing they are generic topics? Because it certainly doesn't seem to be related to anything I've done, but then, that makes sense if it's aimed at newbies who haven't done much yet. Thanks for pointing me there; the user's question makes a whole lot more sense now! Mathglot (talk) 05:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
I recall being asked what kinds of topics I was interested in (I picked "history" and "literature"). I assume they're ORES topics. If there's no way to select topics of interest when you're not actually a noob going through the new-user onboarding stuff, I have no idea how it might pick them. If you're particularly curious someone at WP:GTF probably knows.
I agree it's a neat feature, though if your interests are history and literature it will quickly turn you towards existential despair. I got served Ichabod Crane (even more tags on it then), which made me go crying to growth team, and then some Nazi propaganda (I am not exaggerating). Basically, the homepage made me learn how to use AfD. -- asilvering (talk) 06:09, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Vofa on User:Bruce1ee (20:32, 18 March 2024)

Hello there is a vandal on Wikipedia page about Nogais who goes by the name Turkiishh. Please help me revert his vandalism. --Vofa (talk) 20:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Vofa, I've reverted the most recent unexplained content removal, but it looks like you've been trying to fight this in edit summaries, not the talk page. Please have a look at WP:BRD. If someone else is repeatedly making edits that make no sense, that you disagree with, that don't follow the sources, etc, try to bring them to the talk page of the article to work it out. -- asilvering (talk) 20:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Okay,thank you for restoring justice. I knew it but the sockpuppet account of Turkiishh refused to open a discussion when I offered him. Take care!:) Vofa (talk) 21:26, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
If you can't get someone to discuss with you, and you've really done everything you can to try, the next place to go is WP:ANI. Explain what's going on clearly and briefly, list what you've done to try to enter into dialogue with the other editor. But remember that your conduct will be inspected too, if you do this. It looks to me like you have previously added some unsourced content to that article, which won't reflect well on you. Your edits should always come with a source of some kind, but especially so when you are in some kind of editing dispute. -- asilvering (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:List of preserved Airbus aircraft

I've made a draft based on a List of preserved Airbus aircraft. What do you think of it. I think it should be accepted 220.240.13.215 (talk) 07:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

It will stand a better chance if you can find more reliable secondary sources. -- asilvering (talk) 19:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
I have found more reliable sources for each aircraft such as the Airbus A380s that were preserved. I would recommend it gets accepted because I have spent lots of time doing that article. 220.240.13.215 (talk) 20:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Great! Now you just need to wait for a reviewer. -- asilvering (talk) 20:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:F-WUAB

Draft:F-WUAB. Why don't you review this?

Also, if you read my comment, its a disambiguation-class article meaning no references are in that article as per WP:DABNOT 220.240.159.198 (talk) 06:37, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

It's worth mentioning I'm working on both articles as drafts. 220.240.159.198 (talk) 06:38, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I didn't review that because I didn't see it; typically I work on books, academics, and authors. Since it's been declined now, I suggest waiting to resubmit it until those drafts you're working on are approved. -- asilvering (talk) 20:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
I've resubmitted it. 220.240.159.198 (talk) 21:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Clovermoss Reflection and WikiProject Novels!

Hey read that you teach undregraduates in your Clovermoss Reflection: writing articles about contemporary fiction, is a really wonderful way to get involved in the Education program -- its a good way to have students thinking about the impact of literature, rather than just reading books in the abstract -- its also what got me hooked when I was a undergraduate. I would reccomend trying: https://wikiedu.org/

Also, not sure if you have found Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels -- lots of great resources there! Sadads (talk) 19:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm so glad to hear that someone got hooked on Wikipedia editing thanks to their wikied experience! I've always wondered if that ever manages to pull anyone. I'd be interested to hear more about your experience. Care to fill out Clovermoss's survey yourself? -- asilvering (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from TJLucy (00:48, 27 March 2024)

Can i create my own wiki page or just editing --TJLucy (talk) 00:48, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

@TJLucy you can create articles on topics that wikipedia doesn't have yet. See WP:FIRST for more information. -- asilvering (talk) 05:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nader ezzat omer on Writer (06:38, 27 March 2024)

مرحبا كيف يمكننى انا أكون كاتبا وتستفيد ماليا --Nader ezzat omer (talk) 06:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm only here to answer questions about editing Wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 13:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

About siege of Janjira (1682)

Hello. I've rebuilt Siege of Janjira (1682) as Siege of Janjira. It seems to have reduced into a redirect earlier. Could you please check if I made any mistakes here? Regards. Imperial[AFCND] 16:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

@ImperialAficionado Sure, if I don't get back to you by the end of the weekend, feel free to ping me again. Just double-checking, when you made the new article that's at Siege of Janjira now, you didn't use any of the content from the previous version, right? -- asilvering (talk) 16:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
To be honest, I just realized that there was already an article titled "Siege of Janjira (1682)" shortly after I created this one. No, I haven't used any content from the earlier article so far. Please take your time. ◉⁠‿⁠◉ Imperial[AFCND] 17:02, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
That's fine! Just wanted to make sure we didn't have to ask for a WP:HISTMERGE. -- asilvering (talk) 17:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Ehsan.Bareq (19:53, 28 March 2024)

can you suggest me a video about it please? --Ehsan.Bareq (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Ehsan.Bareq, I'm not sure what "it" is, so I can't, but I think you might be misunderstanding what mentorship is about. I'm here to help you with questions about writing wikipedia articles. -- asilvering (talk) 23:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nia Technique (14:25, 4 March 2024)

I am trying to edit an entire page (or delete it and create another) and do not know how to do this. I've no idea who created the original page, but none of the information is current or accurate. Do you have any sort of tutorial for such things? --Nia Technique (talk) 14:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nia Technique! There are lots of tutorials out there. I've dropped a message on your talk page with some helpful links. WP:FIRST is probably the most helpful thing you can read right now. It's about creating a new article from scratch, but almost everything it says will still apply. Really though, it's pretty easy: just click "edit" and get to it! Make sure that any changes you make are supported by references (see WP:REFB for the basics), or someone will probably undo your work. What's the article you want to edit? Deleting it and starting over is probably not the right idea, but I can have a look and let you know what I think. -- asilvering (talk) 19:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
The original page called "Nia (fitness)" is titled incorrectly. This is why I assumed I needed to delete that page and begin a new page, (or are they called "articles" ???) The correct title should be Nia Technique, in which case, if I edit the "Nia (fitness)" page, how might I edit the title? Likewise, how do I simply begin a new page? Does the word "User" end up in the title? Is there a preview method? Thanks! Nia Technique (talk) 10:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
@Nia Technique, I'm going to start a Requested Move for this page instead of moving it directly, since it's been at this location for a long time and I'm not sure if the move is contentious (ie, I'm not sure if a reasonable person might disagree with it). See WP:RM for more info on this kind of move. Once I've opened up the request, you can comment on the talk page to explain your reasoning for why you support the move to the title Nia Technique.
I'm not sure if you just named your wikipedia account after the page you intended to edit, or whether you're affiliated with Nia in some way. If you are affiliated with Nia, please see WP:COI and fill out a declaration.
They're both "pages" and "articles". Right now you're on my talk page, which is a "page" but not an "article". You will find some editors saying "we don't have pages, we have articles" - frankly, that's not true, but if you're referring to one of wikipedia's articles, it's better to say "article" and not "page" or you may attract that kind of comment. -- asilvering (talk) 19:51, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks so much.
Yes, I am affiliated with the company, Nia Technique, and its original current Founder, Creator, Author, & Educator, Debbie Rosas @ https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-rosas-66541113 I have all the current citations, websites, and information for corrections and updates on Wikipedia for Nia Technique, now over 40+ years since it began.
Upon directive, I opened the account, "Nia Technique" and followed instructions to create a Page "Nia Technique," as prompted by Wikipedia. I saw no indicator for creating an Article and my intention was to correct the current "Nia (fitness) Page, which contains some errors and very few citations. The correct title of any Wikipedia Page should be "Nia Technique," since "Nia" is an abbreviation used to refer to "Nia Technique" for "Nia" Educational Programs, "Nia" Teachers, etc.
If the current "Nia (fitness)" is a "Page," rather than an "Article," that is fine. What is important is that when searches are made for either "Nia" or "Nia Technique," the Wikipedia result should be titled correctly with the correct information. "Nia," for example, should not be referred to simply as "fitness," (although that word is used on one of the company websites), rather, it should be referred to as "Health," and "Wellness," and "Lifestyle" based on the "Nia Technique." This reflects the information on the company websites, https://nianow.com/ , https://niaondemand.com/ , and https://debbierosas.com/
I will await instructions regarding the "Requested Move" and I will complete the WP:COI form. Please let me know if I need to clarify any other information.
Thanks again, very, very much, for your valuable time and assistance. Nia Technique (talk) 12:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
It's been moved, and is now at Nia Technique. Please use Template:Edit COI on the Talk page of the article to propose changes. -- asilvering (talk) 16:43, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks so much. I've clicked on the link to Nia Technique and clicked on the Talk page. Once there, I cannot locate the Template: Edit COI on the Talk page of the article to propose changes. If you could please advise? Nia Technique (talk) 11:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
@Nia Technique, you need to place the template there yourself. -- asilvering (talk) 14:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Could you please let me know how I place the template there myself? 2601:5C3:C201:1EF0:E8A0:A6B9:D228:64C1 (talk) 17:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
The instructions are on the page Template:Edit COI. If you are confused about a particular part, do let me know. -- asilvering (talk) 17:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Page Review

Hi @Asilvering, Hope you doing good, Requesting you to please review this draft article Draft:Sreshth Movies. Thankyou! ~~ Nss999 (talk) 17:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nss999, Indian film isn't a particular specialty of mine so I'll leave that in the queue for now. But if you want a tip, I think you may want to reduce the number of footnotes you have here. Many of them are footnotes that obviously will not help show that the film company is notable - they're just news briefs like "this film is coming soon". It's fine to use these kinds of references in general, but when you have a lot of them in a draft it makes it harder for the reviewer to find sources that show notability. What you need to show is in-depth coverage of the film company itself. -- asilvering (talk) 17:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Dear @Asilvering, Thank you so much for the tip. As suggested by you, I have removed some references. Thankyou ~~ Nss999 (talk) 17:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Safehold

Four keeps, no deletes but the nominator, and a bunch of discussion... and that's a no consensus? Jclemens (talk) 15:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I left it as "no consensus" since the point that was actually being argued in the discussion was the much broader issue (ie, do we keep series articles in general or not), and that discussion hasn't come to a close yet but has instead moved to another talk page. I did consider closing it as keep, since indeed there was no one but the nominator arguing for deletion, so I made sure that the closing comment pointed out that there was no trend towards deletion whatsoever. It seemed to me to be the most accurate way of describing the discussion that had actually happened on that AfD.
Perhaps that was too conservative! But since "no consensus" means the page remains in mainspace for now, and anyone seeking to reopen the discussion would have to wait for the broader WP:NBOOK one to end anyway, I didn't think that a no-consensus close would result in an outcome that was against consensus. If someone tries to do anything weird with Safehold in the meantime while that broader discussion is still going on, we can revert them and tell them to wait. Right now it doesn't look like that NBOOK conversation is going anywhere other than "duh, we should keep series articles", so it looks like my AfD close will effectively end up being a keep close in the end.
That's my reasoning, anyway. Perhaps overly coloured by this DRV (where I note you agreed with my close as keep and others said it should have been no consensus). -- asilvering (talk) 16:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
So, the issue under discussion and the issue being closed are two different things. Don't get distracted by people going off on tangents, even as a NAC, since plenty of us regulars do it all the time. Fact is, despite a bunch of back and forth, no one but the nom put in a bolded delete opinion and no one really argued convincingly for a merge outcome, so the correct outcome would have been to keep. Not worth a DRV, just a bit of advice to remember that when closing your job is to disposition the article before the community, not chase all the rabbit trails we've laid. :-) Jclemens (talk) 07:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red April 2024

Women in Red | April 2024, Volume 10, Issue 4, Numbers 293, 294, 302, 303, 304


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Question from Philip Spangler Mew (03:33, 1 April 2024)

Hello. I am in the process of documenting the Barkintji language of western NSW and also their culture before they are lost forever in time. Would it be possible for people out there in the ether/internet to contact me with a view to helping me to collate the culture and also to put down in words the spoken language to form a dictionary? This may take a decade to do but as I am a retiree I now make this one of my goals in life. --Philip Spangler Mew (talk) 03:33, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Philip Spangler Mew, have you tried contacting the people at https://languageconservancy.org.au/? It looks like that's what you're looking for. -- asilvering (talk) 06:04, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from The Miracle Girls (18:08, 1 April 2024)

How do I get an image for a page for a piece of media? If it requires an author's contact, but they don't respond, then what? --The Miracle Girls (talk) 18:08, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

@The Miracle Girls if it requires their response and they don't give you one, you're out of luck, and you don't have an image. We can't force people to provide free images. If it's possible to use a non-free image in your case, WP:NOTFREE will explain the details. -- asilvering (talk) 22:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for the advice. Although lets say I or someone else produced an image of the thing. Is that allowed to be used so long as it meets standards / guidelines? The Miracle Girls (talk) 23:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
And the someone else I would ask if it was ok, to clarify. The Miracle Girls (talk) 00:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, the easy answer is that anything that meets the appropriate standard can be used. The more important question is whether you're applying the correct standard. I can't answer that one unless I know what you're talking about specifically. -- asilvering (talk) 00:03, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for the information! The Miracle Girls (talk) 19:16, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Question

Hello @Asilvering! Have you forgotten to review Nazran uprising? Best regards, WikiEditor123… 10:39, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

I haven't, I've just been ill, unfortunately. I'll get to it asap, but I don't think that will be today. Sorry. -- asilvering (talk) 17:06, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

Hello Asilvering,

New Page Review queue January to March 2024

Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

Recruitment: A couple of the coordinators have been inviting editors to become reviewers, via mass-messages to their talk pages. If you know someone who you'd think would make a good reviewer, then a personal invitation to them would be great. Additionally, if there are Wikiprojects that you are active on, then you can add a post there asking participants to join NPP. Please be careful not to double invite folks that have already been invited.

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Question from Vofa on User:Asilvering (09:47, 3 April 2024)

Hello,can you please help again? The Tuurkiiiish user probably vandalised the article 7 times,he’s a sockpuppet and tries to erode information. Help me revert his changes on the page of Nogais https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nogais he wrote ,,source doesn’t work,, they do work,here ://iccrimea.org/scholarly/jankowski.html https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334168544_The_main_phases_of_the_earliest_Nogais'_history_in_Kazakhstan much appreciated --Vofa (talk) 09:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

@Vofa, that source is broken. Here is the version that was reverted: [1]. You can clearly see that the reference he's talking about triggers an error. The error is: Cite error: The named reference Association of Nogais in Turkey 2024 was invoked but never defined (see the help page). -- asilvering (talk) 20:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
I’ll make it work tommorow. Good night. Vofa (talk) 20:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Medium419 (22:24, 3 April 2024)

Hello, I'm new. Is there anything I should be aware of to help where I can? --Medium419 (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Medium419, welcome to wikipedia! I've put a template message on your Talk page that has a lot of helpful links to get you started. What are you interested in editing? -- asilvering (talk) 22:26, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Checking in

Heya! Just checking in to see how you're doing. Think I saw you said you've been feeling unwell recently, so I hope you're recovering okay. All the best to you always <3 --Grnrchst (talk) 10:16, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Grnrchst thanks for the concern! I managed to combine end-of-term marking with a stomach bug and a migraine flare; can't say it was a fun experience. I've ditched the stomach bug (I hope) and most of the marking, so things are looking up. -- asilvering (talk) 01:48, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Xthread (13:58, 4 April 2024)

Hello there,

Could you please clarify why my edition was cancelled? Here is an article — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_password_managers --Xthread (talk) 13:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Xthread, I have no idea. You'll have to ask the editor who removed what you added. -- asilvering (talk) 01:35, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Berryforperpetuity (14:26, 4 April 2024)

Is Simple English considered it's own language on Wikipedia? For example, I'm aware that there are administrators for different language (ex. English Wikipedia administrators are different people than Spanish Wikipedia administrators,) would this mean that Simple English has its own administrators and such, or is it just considered a "fork" of English? --Berryforperpetuity (talk) 14:26, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Berryforperpetuity, yes, it's its own separate wikipedia, so it's a separate admin team. There aren't very many of them, actually: full list here. -- asilvering (talk) 01:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from MartiiinPerez on Wikipedia:Stub (02:33, 5 April 2024)

Cómo creo dinero --MartiiinPerez (talk) 02:33, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Not on wikipedia, that's for sure. -- asilvering (talk) 01:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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