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Creating a Spanish version of my job's Wikipedia page[edit]

Hello,

I work for the Center for International Media Ethics, which has English and French Wikipedia pages. I am supposed to create a Spanish version of the page as well, but I'm confused about how to do it. I created a draft-- Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Centro Internacional de Ética en los Medios de Comunicación -- but I think it was in the English Wikipedia so it was not approved. If you could help me make my draft a Spanish version of CIME's page, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much!

Kmollo (talk) 00:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is more a matter for the Spanish Wikipedia, see http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/
The editors there can probably offer you more assistance--I'm presuming you speak Spanish? Pol430 talk to me 14:56, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This is my second denial for this article, and I would like to clarify the terms of the denial and what I can do to rectify it. The reviewer made mention of secondary sources as opposed to primary sources/original research, a neutral point of view (which I was under the impression I had maintained), and writing in an encyclopedic manner. I would like to ask which of my sources in particular are not acceptable and what I can do to make the narrative less "essay like".

Thank you, Aubrey Cloud (talk) 01:58, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Accepted. As he is an academic, that has received fairly substantial coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources, I can see no reason not to accept this submission. Pol430 talk to me 15:08, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! This was an unexpected and happy surprise. Aubrey Cloud (talk) 01:52, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me I am trying to post the article we wrote on Journey School and it seems to be stuck. What should I do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor1159 (talkcontribs) 02:39, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the main problem with this submission is that it writes about the school in a manner that promotes it. I have highlighted some problematic sentences but there are more. Wikipedia require that all article maintain a neutral point of view. Also, the external links should be removed from the body text and re-formatted as citations, or just removed; I have highlighted one example. Another issue is that I found one sentence "Waldorf teachers strive to transform education into an art that educates the whole child- the heart, head and hands." that is directly copied from the schools website, be careful to avoid that, as it is considered a copyright violation. I could not find any other such examples, but I only made a cursory check of the submission. Finally, the notability of the school is not clear, please see WP:VRS. I hope that has helped? Pol430 talk to me 15:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Journey School article[edit]

I lost my conversation thread unfortunately, they were very helpful. Can you tell me the status of the article "Journey School"? Thank you.Editor1159 (talk) 02:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)editor1159[reply]

See the response above above Pol430 talk to me 15:26, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me improve my current submission. I don't understand it anymore. The last comment was only to make footnotes on my references, and now you want me to site another sources? Try to check the article " University of the Immaculate Conception " and see how that article passed, when it only, has 1(one) citing/source under references. While mine, I think, has provided enough...If you can help me, Kindly create the article cause it is now very discouraging and confusing. How can anyone be interested in making articles voluntarily if that's how risky it is?(Michael Padada 03:53, 20 March 2012 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by QuecyKeith (talkcontribs)

Hi, the primary issue here is that the notability of the subject is unclear. You need to provide some more independent, reliable sources, to establish to schools notability. See WP:VRS. I have also removed a section of the submission that contained inappropriate content (phone number and email addresses). Pol430 talk to me 15:36, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Per my submission on Michael Hamill, what, specifically, is not supported correctly?

Thanks!

Matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tahoe22 (talkcontribs) 06:13, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The submission needs some more references for verification and to evidence his notability. Specifically, the assertion that: "He has summited Mt. Everest 4 times" is not directly supported by the citation. Pol430 talk to me 15:41, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chaley-Ann Scott article[edit]

Hi

Can you please tell me what I can do to improve the above article. This is my first. Thanks Jenna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennamason1984 (talkcontribs) 08:24, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Help desk. - This is where editors will try to answer any question regarding how to use Wikipedia. Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for any help related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.
The article exists at Chaley Scott, if you want advice on making improvements please contact the help desk. Pol430 talk to me 15:48, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We need this great man image...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.218.103 (talk) 08:36, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission was blank. Please add text tp your submission before submitting it for review again. If you just want someone to write an article about this subject, please try WP:Requested Articles - Happysailor (Talk) 10:53, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Review completed. Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Chris Twomey

Your submission did not meet Wikipedia's criteria, but if you can address the issues found in the review, you are encouraged to make improvements and re-submit it. The reviewer left the following comment about this submission:

Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

Dear Help Desk, I don't understand why this submission Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Chris Twomeywas turned down and would appreciate more information about what is wrong with the footnotes. They are in the article appropriately and link to the footnotes at the bottom. I'd very much like to fix this submission and resubmit it, with the assurance that it will be approved. If possible, please advise with specific reasons for refusal. Thank you for your consideration, Norm HinseyNorm Hinsey (talk) 14:26, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, that article should not have been declined that way. The article already has footnotes, I have re-marked the submission as pending review. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Accepted. Despite a couple of 'Bloggy' sources the artists seems to meet the WP:GNG. It needs a little more clean up work, which I have tagged accordingly. Pol430 talk to me 16:12, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The whole first part of this article that would go to demonstrate Twomey's notability---her recognition in the broader community, her awards, and her general contribution to the field-- is unsourced. The only part of the article that is reliably sourced is Twomey's specific works which is insufficient to establish notability. I would recommend going back through the article--especially the first half which is entirely unsourced--and adding citations to ensure that the information is not deleted in the future. Dalisays (talk) 21:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Joey,

I have taken your comments seriously and have revised this piece several times to reflect a neutral point of view. (The only specific suggestion was to remove the list of services so that it wouldn't read like an advertisement. I did this and also removed all other text references that could be construed as promotional rather than fact-based.)

I also triple checked references to ensure that they are independent, reliable published sources. Finally, to reinforce Hyatt Legal Plans' notability, I added related facts about its parent organization, MetLife, which is a publically traded, Fortune 500 company.

One of the new references is Joel Hyatt's Wikipedia article, which supports that fact that Hyatt Legal Plans is the largest group legal provider in the country. Other notable companies in this space, ARAG Group and Legal Shield, both have Wikipedia articles, despite the fact that their North American footprints are much smaller than Hyatt's.

However, despite following all the suggestions, the article was rejected for a third time. (It appears that the same rejection notice continues to be posted without acknowledgement of my edits.) I would greatly appreciate if you could point to the specific items that do not meet Wikipedia's editorial requirements.

Thanks very much.

Lawyer24738 (talk) 14:30, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The majority of the article is still unsourced, or sourced to primary, non-independent sources - for example Wikipedia is a user edited encyclopedia so cannot be used as a source (the article you cite is also unsourced!); Section 2 is partly cited to a press release on BusinessWire (therefore primary, non-independent source). I tend to agree that the article is largely unverifiable and reads like an advert for Hyatt Legal Plans and their services. You need to identify reliable, independent and in-depth coverage to support the information about HLP, before we can accept the article. Sionk (talk) 15:06, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Army_Attack

Help me to write this article from a 'neutral point of view'.Plz someone edit & modify this article.Thanks Arghya Roy (talk) 16:49, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The greater issue here, is the lack of multiple, independent, reliable sources that are required to evidence the game's notability. Pol430 talk to me 18:10, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Query on Revisions that ahve been made to Rejected Draft of Article on Edward Margolies[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Edward Margolies

I have added footnotes, citations and an explanation of why Mr. Margolies is notable, particularly his important role in the 1960s as a literary critic who explored the work of long neglected African-American writers and introduced them to the general public (see cited review as well as references to Margolies's work in leading U.S. newspapers and magazines). Is this the kind of information the editor was looking for when he commented on my initial draft? Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Hoping that this worthwhile addition to Wikipedia will be deemed acceptable. Thanks for your help and feedback. Thecobbrooklyn (talk) 17:49, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it appears that the only references in the submission are citations to Margolies' own works. In order to demonstrate notability, the submission requires references to reliable, independent sources that give him significant coverage. Pol430 talk to me 23:51, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]