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My articles removed

I edited a page about Misandry. The two articles I mentioned had relevance to the page and I had several source links from different authors/websites etc. They were both taken down.. one for not being about misandry, the other for wp/undue.. but.. hold on.. the other articles didn't all have the word 'misandry' in them but were about the same topic and related to 'misandry' just like mine. I've checked the wiki advice pages and I seem to have ticked the boxes required.

Why is mine not good enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enjoylife123 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Unfortunately, getting your edits removed by another is a normal part of building an encyclopedia which anyone can edit. Please refer to WP:BRD when that happens. In other words, yours is a question for whoever took your edits down. Ask exactly this question at the talk page of the article. Mention the person who took it down so they know you have a question for them. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

The fact that 1 judge in the UK once said something that some interpret as proof of misandry places undue weight on this comment. It's the same when one scientist would say the world is flat; the fact one person argued that does not mean we should mention it in the article about the Earth. In contrast, a study done by a university (like you added) may be given significantly more weight than a comment from one judge. --MrClog (talk) 19:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

But the article about the judge gained anger across the spectrum, as clearly identified in the articles on several pages I put as sources. It is an example of misandry which other articles on that page highlight. It angered even the road safety advisors. If every newspaper and editor in the land who brought that miscarriage of justice up, talked about all the people and agencies who are not happy with it and highlighted the gender issue, then its a 'misandry' problem. It then went on nicely to the study in the second part, which you mention, from the University in America that found that men were not treated the same.. so it all connects. Yet that was taken down too. Thats why I put all the sources as it was such a big topic and raised many questions... and was seen as misandry. You will note that in the other posts on that page it mentions events such as the sinking of the Titanic and how men were treated differently to their detriment. How is this any different? Is that classed as misandry? I've noticed a lot of posts and edits on many pages in wiki that don't get taken down that do not mention the word that is on the title of the page (such as misandry) and that don't even have sources attached to them. Its very strange how some articles are allowed and others not, even if those not allowed meet the guidelines more closely than those that are allowed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enjoylife123 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

The university report wasn't removed, but moved to the "In government policy" section. I'm not sure about the details regarding the judge, but Flyer22 Reborn (ping!) should be able to explain their revert further. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) --MrClog (talk) 22:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

You explained well enough why I cut the material. Unless the source makes the misandry connection, Wikipedia shouldn't. Otherwise, it's WP:Synthesis. And it was WP:Undue weight. This piece that I just reverted is also undue weight, although it includes the author's take on what misandry includes. And as for moving the extra material, which should also be cut, to the "In government policy" section, I don't see why we needed an "In law" section when the "In government policy" section exists. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Enjoylife123. I'm curious as to what you mean when you decided to use My articles removed for the section heading of this particular discussion thread. Are you referring to Wikipedia articles you've added content to or are you referring to articles you've personally written that you're trying to add to Wikipedia articles as sources? If you're referring to Wikipedia articles, you might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Ownership of content because we as editors don't have any claim of ownership over articles that we create or edit. Any claim of ownership vanishes the moment we click on "Publish changes". If you're referring to articles you've written that you'd like to add a sources to Wikipedia articles, then please take a look at WP:SELFCITE. Doing such a thing is not expressly prohibited by Wikipedia, but it can be tricky to do and often is something highly scrutinized by the Wikipedia community out of concerns of some people trying to spam Wikipedia articles with citations to their own personal analysis or research. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:05, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Flyer22 Reborn How is the last addition I made, regarding misandry, undue weight? It refers to an article, made by psychologists, about misandry. It has a source. What more do you want? Its not by someone who is irrelevant. It's not without weight. Its an opinion, based on experience within the field, just like the other posts on that page. Other posts on that page don't all have misandry mentioned. Mine does. Its by a Ph.D psychologist.

Marchjuly, this is the point I was making... I've added perfect content for that particular page with a source. It gives a psychologists thoughts on misandry and, ironically, in the same 'Psychhology Today' news outlet as where another post on that page has referred to. But mine is taken down. Why? I do my research. I check the sources. I make sure its relevant and by people who are important to listen to. Enjoylife123

No, it is very much undue weight indeed. You added the opinion of one single individual, including a very long and slanted quote, taken from a very poor source, to the start of the "Public opinion" section. No indication whatsoever was included about which particular part of the world the quote referred to (granted, the entire article suffers a bit from that) or what the underlying dataset was; not surprising, since this is one individual therapist's personal reflections. Pretty much the definition of WP:UNDUE. (Joe Kort appears to be a sensible person, but Wikipedia cannot present his anecdotal evidence as general fact.) --bonadea contributions talk 14:53, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

bonadea Thankyou for your reply. My question then... How does this differ from the findings of other psychologists mentioned? Or anyone else for that matter. For example, Standford University's Phillip Zimbardo or Wendy McElroy or any of the others. Why is Michigan University's Joe Kort's findings not allowed compared to these? Enjoylife123

Philip Zimbardo's text should be removed as well since it's not explicitly about misandry. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. An article might include poor material or material that does not belong, but this doesn't mean that more poor material and material that does not belong should be added. It means that cleanup should happen. Wendy McElroy is a feminist and is included in the "Within feminist movements" section. Of course, opinions from feminists are going to be included in that section. But we can see that it's still the case that not much text is dedicated to McElroy's view.

And source-wise, quality is also a matter; see WP:SCHOLARSHIP. Read what it says about what type of sources are preferred for academic topics.

You should also consider making your case at the article's talk page. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 17:25, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Shikha Khanduja Kaul

Hi Team,

I came to know that This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikha_Khanduja_Kaul

Contentious material is poorly sourced with the only article talking about her novel on merinews. I found no reliable sources about her on Google and Google news by searching her name instead of book selling links on amazon. Her article on Wikipedia written in details without a deep coverage of any national and international media.

I believe this article must be scrutinised or removed.

Regards, Lekkala

Lekkala R Reddy (talk) 17:46, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Let's see how right you are

Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 18:31, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

new Wikipedia page help

Hello, I am lost. It is said that we can create our own Wikipedia pages but ultimately says ya or na on whether they get published or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelsonnigel (talk • contribs) 20:05, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Nelsonnigel Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It is strongly advised that you not attempt to write about yourself, please read WP:AUTO. In order to be successful, you essentially would need to forget everything you know about yourself and only write based on what independent reliable sources state. While technically possible, most people cannot do this, as people naturally write favorably about themselves. You can submit a draft using Articles for Creation, but the one you are working on is a long way from being accepted. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 20:14, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

You can use your user page to introduce yourself to the Wikipedia community in the context of your Wikipedia editing or use, but it is not an article or social media style page. 331dot (talk) 20:16, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Is my signature working?

My signature should be 'Sir' where each letter is a different color. It should also link to my user page. Please respond!

Sir 20:43, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

It's not :) [[User:Sir Madam|Sir]] is what you want. (Renders as Sir) Eman 235/talk 20:58, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

MLA(?) looking citations in an article, is that normal?

I saw some inline citations that were referring to books or journals like "(Tahir 12)" and the like in the 'Plot' section of the article for the book The Color Purple: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Color_Purple.

I hadn't seen that before. Is this common? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RedHotPizzaSupper (talk • contribs) 23:32, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

@RedHotPizzaSupper: Welcome to Wikipedia. That format is one of several citation formats used on Wikipedia. You can read more about citations at WP:CITEVAR. RudolfRed (talk) 23:55, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Nice. Thank you! (I also learned about replying, mentioning, signing, and indenting in this interaction so your impact has already been enormous.) RedHotPizzaSupper (talk) 00:39, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

How to add a Photograph to my Article?

Hi All,

I am unsure how to add a photograph to my article. I have sought and received email permission from a professional photographer to use a photo of me in my article. It's a photo that, according to the photographer, is subject to "fair use."

In his email to me, the photographer attached the photo and included the following statement: "I grant you permission to upload the attached photo that is copyrighted (copyright symbol) R.I. Sutherland-Cohen."

I'm not sure what to do at this point. Can you assist me in uploading the photograph? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluejazz9999 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello Bluejazz9999. To upload an image on Wikipedia, go to the file upload wizard. Hope this helps. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 14:35, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bluejazz9999. Because part of the fundamental purpose of Wikipedia is to provide a resource which anybody can reuse in any way for any purpose (as long as they credit the source), it does not accept photos or other material with permission just to use them in Wikipedia - it requires that images be released by the copyright holder under a kind of licence which will allow anybody to reuse them for any purpose (usually CC-BY-SA). Because that so limits the pictures that can be used, it does allow a particular kind of "fair use", but only in accordance with its own more restrictive set of conditions - see the non-free content criteria - which include that there is no reasonable expectation of ever getting a free-to-use copy. For this reason, this route is hardly ever relevant for pictures of a living person.

What would be needed for the picture of you to be uploaded is an explicit statement from the photographer that they license it under CC-BY-SA. They could make this publicly, eg by publishing the picture on their own website (or yours) with an explicit declaration; or they could make the declaration to the Wikimedia Foundation directly, by one of the procedures in donating copyright materials. Easiest, if they are willing, is for them to upload the picture to Wikimedia Commons themselves, making the declaration as they do so. If they are unable or unwilling to do that, they will need to send an email as detailed in that link, and you can upload the image to Commons yourself.

It's unfortunate that we do have this complication in using images; but Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and is keen to do it right. --ColinFine (talk) 15:01, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bluejazz9999. What do you mean by "My article"? Do you mean that the article is written about you? If that's the case please take a look at Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide because you shouldn't really be editing any articles or any content written about you on Wikipedia except as explained in WP:COIADVICE. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:11, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Kundan Srivastava Human Rights activist

Hi Team,

Greetings!

I’ve submitted an article about Kundan Srivastava. Have seen that some people submitted his article before with the lack of reliable sources and national media coverage.

I and many following him for his fearless works and I do believe that he has enough media coverage to get featured on Wikipedia.

Please review and hope this time Kundan’s article will be published. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lekkala_R_Reddy/sandbox

Regards, Lekkala

Lekkala R Reddy (talk) 16:27, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Lekkala R Reddy Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft will be reviewed in due course, please be patient. Attempts to "jump the line" don't usually work. 331dot (talk) 16:52, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I can say just casually that the language is very promotional. I would suggest toning it down and sticking to what the sources state. Are you affiliated with this person? 331dot (talk) 16:54, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

331dot Dear Sir, Apologies! I’m not attempting to jump the line. I just informed about the same.

I wrote this article about Kundan in a very few lines and I do believe that I didn’t use promotional words and languages. I wrote in a simple way by mentioning about him on the first paragraph, education, activism one notable works and one single award by searching his references.

I’m a fan of his human rights works and fights. I thought to contribute the article and so I did.

Have made some changes, If you still believe that article is little in promotional language and need to tone it down. Please suggest.

I have mentioned only those things what the sources stated.

Regards, Lekkala

Lekkala R Reddy (talk) 17:47, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Lekkala R Reddy, In the meantime, take a look at WP:SOCK and see if that's something you need to be careful about. Better safe than sorry. Regards! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 18:29, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Usedtobecool, Sure! I always keep your suggestions in mind. Being an engineering student for some coming years, I will implement my knowledge in a positive manners. I’m a silent contributor for not just Wikipedia but many journals and magazines. I love to write logical things and about the people who’re endlessly trying to contribute some positive efforts to our societies.

Regards, Lekkala

Lekkala R Reddy (talk) 04:40, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Unification of country codes

Dear Cordless Larry, Fyunck(click) Excirial and other tennis editors! I would like to draw your attention to the following striking and obvious deviation which I experienced during editing and/or uploading data to the historical lists of champions/winners etc. of any Grand Slam tournaments. The unification and using of the certain country codes does not seem to follow any rules and is not standardized. E.g. if Wikipedia is using the ISO/IOC code for Ilie Nastase as ROM which was applied btw 1956–1960, 1972–2006, why is used ROU for Virginia Ruzici or Florenta Mihai in the same era? Not to mention the fact that Nastase's nationality was marked ROU in the list of the finals/champions, and his nationality was listed as ROM among the countries of champions... All three Romanian players' active careers were in the same era with the different Romanian country code? I consider it is something undoubtedly wrong. I appreciate if any of You can clarify this and resolve this contradiction. Thank You! --Mrandrew16 (talk) 23:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Mrandrew16 (talk · contribs): welcome to the Teahouse!.

Inconsistencies between articles usually arise because different articles were/are written and edited by different people – in any one month around 100,000 different people edit on Wikipedia, all of whom are unpaid volunteers working (usually) from their own homes/schools/libraries/offices/wherever on whatever they choose. Nobody has an 'overseer' role to check for and correct inconsistencies (unless this is what they choose to do).

If you think you have seen inconsistencies or errors in or between articles, be bold and change them. At worst someone will disagree and revert your change(s), hopefully with an edit summary explaining why, and if you disagree with their reason the two of you can then discuss the matter (with others if they choose to join in) on the article's Talk page.

This process or cycle of Bold, Revert, Discuss conducted directly on Articles and their Talk pages is standard operating procedure on Wikipedia, and you don't really need to complicate the procedure by initiating discussions elsewhere, although neither is it wrong to do so. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.123.24.56 (talk) 04:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Unification of Asian-born athletes' names

Dear Cordless Larry, Fyunck(click) Excirial and other tennis editors! I would like to draw your attention to another striking and obvious deviation which I experienced during editing and/or uploading data to the historical lists and bio of champions/winners etc. of tennis tournaments. The standardization and unification of using the Asian athletes' (from my experience mostly tennis players)names do not seem to follow any rules and is not standardized. E.g. It is known and obvious that the family name is followed by the first name in China, Japan etc. Despite of this fact the tennis player's name such as Li Na, Shuai Peng etc. (where Li as well as Pen are the family name, Na and Shuai are the first name) are used in opposite order. On other hand, in the case of Kei Nishikori (where Nishikori is the family name and Kei is the first name) and other Japanese players, wikipedia are using the correct order of names. My question is, English wikipedia why is using the order of Chinese grammar? Even on the official Wimbledon site, on the draw sheet, Li Na is displayed as 'N.Li' in the correct way according to the English grammar. Why English wikipedia does not follow the normal English grammar way? If English wikipedia creates exception,it would be strongly recommended, then this policy should show some consistency and unity. I appreciate if any of You can clarify this and resolve this contradiction. Thank You! --Mrandrew16 (talk)

Hi again, User:Mrandrew16. Firstly, I refer you you my answer above. Secondly, the problem of asian name order is a vexed one, because we usually defer to how people are most commonly referred to in English, this being the English Wikipedia, even if it isn't how they are most commonly referred to in their native language.

This is further complicated by the fact that some asians in an English-language context adopt a 'Western' ordering and sometimes a Western forename, while others prefer to retain their traditional ordering. Examples are the Chinese snooker players Marco Fu and Ding Juinhui who exercise opposite preferences, and the Science Fiction writer Cixin Liu whose name appears thus on the covers of English translations of his work but as Lui Cixin on those books' copyright pages. Since the name bearers themselves display inconsistent practices, it's effectively impossible to apply a consistent overall approach on Wikipedia, rather than a case-by-case treatment based on Reliable sources. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.123.24.56 (talk) 05:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Photo editing or adding

How to add or change a photo of a particular page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BIKASH NANDA GOSWAMI (talk • contribs) 07:07, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

BIKASH NANDA GOSWAMI, See Help:Pictures. Be very careful not to violate copyright. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:14, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Watchlist on Mobile

When you click on your watchlist on mobile view, it says the list is empty. I know my list isn't empty because it shows up on desktop. Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir Madam (talk • contribs) 18:32, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sir Madam, in my mobile view, I get two tabs (list, modified) and four sub-tabs (all, pages, talk and other). Is it the same for you? Have you tried changing tabs? Mobile view is designed to be simpler. So, it's conceivable it suppresses some minor updates that may be available in the desktop version. Please make sure the update is absolutely worth showing to see if it is completely broken or just too picky. Additionally, in your preferences, there is a whole tab (section) for setting your watchlist preferences. Perhaps, if you could go there and see if there's any options set for the watchlist to be too picky? From the lack of responses here, I doubt anyone who can help is likely to pass by (I myself waited these many hours to see if they would). You might want to give the reference desk a go, if my suggestions don't work. Good luck! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 08:47, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing a Wikipedia Page

Hi Folks,

Am new here and had a quick (first) question - what is the best/legal way according to Wikipedia to go about and edit a page you're associated with? I understand they have previously banned people for trying to influence articles. The thing is that the page I am talking about is old and has not been updated in some time.

Thanking everyone in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SManiar (talk • contribs) 08:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, SManiar. Welcome to the Teahouse, and thanks for asking about this before wading in. The key points are

) Be transparent: make your relationship clear
) As far as possible, don't make changes yourself, but suggest them, so an uninvolved editor to decide what to do about your suggestion.

You can find more detail about how to proceed at COI. --ColinFine (talk) 08:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello, SManiar, and welcome to the Teahouse! In short, start with writing on the articles talkpage. "Hello, I have a conflict of interest regarding this subject, but I would like to suggest this change... Here is a WP:RS that supports this change."

Now, there is no guarantee that you will get a response (give it a while though). If that is so, you can try coming back here, or post at one of the Wikiprojects that are probably mentioned at the top of the talkpage. More at WP:COI and perhaps WP:AUTO. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:50, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Redirecting a page.

I created a Wikipedia page of a famous footballer called Amanuel Gebremichael. And i wanted to place the page in his football team squad (Mekelle 70 Enderta FC) which is placed in red mark. I need the guide on how to.. or the codes i should add editing the squad players. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamieJr10 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, SamieJr10, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your user page is not an appropriate place for creating an article (see USERPAGE for what it is for), so I have moved your draft to Draft:Amanuel Gebremichael. --ColinFine (talk) 08:51, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

As for your question: I'm guessing that what you mean is that you were expecting the entry "Amanuel Gebremichael" in the existing article Mekelle 70 Enderta FC to turn blue, because you thought you had written an article about him? The answer is that Wikilinks work on the name of the page: the draft you created was called User:SamieJr10, and not Amanuel Gebremichael (note that is still a redlink). It is now called Draft:Amanuel Gebremichael. When you submit the draft for review, and a reviewer accepts it, they will move it to the proper place in the main article space, and that link from Mekelle 70 Enderta FC will turn blue; but articles in main space should not link to draft articles.

Don't try to submit it for review in its current state, because it will fail, as it has no references at all. It is not enough to write what you know: every single fact in a Wikipedia article must be available in a reliable published source, and (for a living person), the source must be cited directly in the article. Please see your first article and referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 09:00, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)You need to improve your draft with inline citations to reliable sources, take the time to read WP:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners. When you are done and think your draft is ready to be approved, put {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} at the top of it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:02, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

How can I edit and also write Wikipedia articles?

Hello Wikipedia team! I am a formally trained Chef and food blogger with expertise in Brazilian cuisine. I would love to contribute to Wikipedia both writing new food articles and editing some. But I am not familiar with your procedure. Could you please send me more information about this? Thank you! Denise Browning Author of Easy and Delish — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1700:218F:BD0A:714E:8E58:78A9 (talk) 19:37, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! You can start editing Wikipedia whenever you desire, by simply clicking the "edit" tab on the article that you happen to be reading (except some sensitive articles that might be locked from editing). To create an article, you need to register an account. When you have an account, we'd be happy to give you a list of all guidance pages that are designed to help new editors get acquainted with Wikipedia editing. To start, WP:YFA may be helpful; just give it a read. The gist, for now, would be, your expertise on the subject will be appreciated to the extent that it makes you a good judge in evaluating sources; however, the content you add to Wikipedia has to come from independent, reliable, secondary sources, as outlined in WP:RS so that everything is verifiable to the readers. No original research is allowed. You are discouraged from writing about yourself (WP:AUTO) and about things that you might have an interest in having them represented a certain way in Wikipedia (WP:COI). Just register a account, and we'll still be here to help you out with any further questions you may have regarding editing/creating articles. Regards! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 09:10, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

How can I change the title of an existing page?

Hi team,

Does anyone know how I can change the title of a page? It's basically the name of a company who changed the spelling of their name. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.148.88.187 (talk) 09:18, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

You can't actually rename a page as such, instead you 'move' the page to its new name, and usually keep the old name in place as a redirect. You can see more information about this here WP:MOVE. However, the key thing is that as an unregistered user you are unable to do this. You will need to register an account and become WP:autoconfirmed first, which requires your account to be four days old and have made 10 edits. That said, if you would like to tell us the page you want to move, and the new name, then probably someone here will be happy to do it for you, assuming we agree with the move. Hug^syrup 09:22, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Search Engine Logo Pulling From Wiki

When you search "Oregon Mutual Insurance" on bing.com the first listing on the right displays my company's old blue logo. The logo image says it's coming from our wiki page, but I can't find anything. There's only one photo loaded and it is of our home office. I've tried to upload a jpeg of our new logo and wiki says it goes against standards because it doesn't look like it came from a camera. Has anyone else ran into these two issues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aywood (talk • contribs) 21:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Aywood. On the first issue, this is the standard response that we at the Volunteer Response Team send out when we receive similar queries about Google by e-mail:

Wikipedia has no control over what appears on Google or other search engines, including what pictures and information occurs in the summary at the right of the search results, so you will need to contact Google directly if you have an issue with content that appears on Google. The box on the right side on Google searches is generated by Google's Knowledge Graph. This uses a wide variety of sources, so while there may be a section labeled as "Wikipedia", images or other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong.

I don't use Bing, but I wonder if there's a similar feedback feature there? Cordless Larry (talk) 10:48, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Wanted to add some extra contecnt on Paul Grundy. How to start my new wiki page?

Dear,

I got a chance to interview Paul Grundy. Now i wanted to add a few content on his wiki page. Please help me for this.

I also wanted to create few biography page & company profile page. Please help me & allow me to create them. I am sure my request will be reviewed by WIkipedia team. Its clear that my contents are 100% authentic.

Waiting for your reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RDYasmin (talk • contribs) 10:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@RDYasmin: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I wanted to tell you that Wikipedia does not have "profiles" or "wiki pages". Wikipedia has articles about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability as shown with independent reliable sources. There is already an article on Paul Grundy that you have attempted to edit, your edit was reverted for reasons given in the edit summary. If you disagree with these reasons, you should post on the article talk page.

An interview would not be acceptable as an independent reliable source, as Wikipedia is not interested in what someone says about themselves, only in what independent sources say about them. 331dot (talk) 10:45, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello RDYasmin, and welcome to the Teahouse. About your interview. Basically, you should not. A WP-article is mostly not interested in what a subject says about themselves, see WP:ABOUTSELF. But if your interview has been published in a WP:RELIABLE SOURCE it may have some use.

About creating new articles. Take the time to read Help:Your first article carefully, then follow the directions to create drafts and submitting them for approval. "Authentic" is not the bar to aim for here, WP:GNG is. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

OYLA India - Children's Magazine in India

OYLA is a monthly scientific magazine designed for children and students as well as their parents. OYLA in Kazakh means “To Think". Oyla helps students to know History, understand Mathematics and Physics, conduct Chemical experiments and love all the diverse forms of life on Earth https://www.oylaindia.org The focus and content of the magazine are based on the STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) concepts. The main distinctive feature of OYLA Youth Science magazine is that we explain complex subjects in simple words along with informative graphics which makes it easier for young readers. Oyla is a part of i-manager Magazines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OYLA India (talk • contribs) 10:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Did you have a specific question? In the meantime, I suspect it might be worth drawing your attention to our policies on conflict of interest and also on usernames that imply shared use. Hug^syrup 10:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, OYLA India, and welcome to the Teahouse. If your question is "Can this magazine have a WP-article", see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for guidance.

One more thing. Per WP:s rules (see WP:ORGNAME) you must change your username. The easy way is to just create a new account and stop using this one. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:01, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Canvassing at AfD

Hi - sometimes at AfD, I see a template at the top of the discussion saying that there are concerns about possible off-wiki canvassing. This is usually accompanied by a bunch of new accounts coming along and voting Keep with their first edits - these tend to be followed by little 'This user has made few contributions other than this one' messages.

Is it acceptable for the nominator of a page to place these templates on an AfD discussion, or do uninvolved parties do it?
If it is acceptable, can you point me at guidelines for how and when to do it? I re-read the guidelines at WP:AfD and didn't see anything, apologies if I've missed it. Thanks GirthSummit _(blether) 13:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the 'this user has made few contributions...' notice, the guidelines and template for that can be found at WP:SPA and I believe there is nothing to say that anyone can't add that tag as long as they use it appropriately and follow the guidelines. Information about the canvassing tag is here WP:Canvassing#How_to_respond_to_canvassing though it is fairly brief. The template itself can be found here Template:Not_a_ballot and I see no reason it couldn't be added by the nominator, given that it is neutrally-worded and simply informs users of Wikipedia policy. There certainly doesn't seem to be anything to say it can't be. Finally, I'm afraid I can't find any specific guidance on when to use it, but again, it's simply a notice stating an existing policy so I don't think you should be too afraid of adding it to a page if there appear to be a lot of new users !voting on an AFD, whether or not you have evidence of canvassing. Hug^syrup 13:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Hugsyrup - I'll do that then. If anyone sees this discussion and knows of a guideline to say it's inappropriate of me to do this, please go ahead and revert - the discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alice Little. GirthSummit _(blether) 14:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Arrivals lounge

On Wikivoyage, we have an equivalent of the Teahouse called the Arrivals Lounge. Could there be a way to link to it from here? Thanks! --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 15:34, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi SelfieCity. The Arrivals lounge is currently linked to Wikipedia:Help desk by the interproject link in Wikidata, and a page can have only one link. I can change the link if this is a better target. Does Wikivoyage have a Help desk, or does the Arrivals lounge have that function too? StarryGrandma (talk) 18:36, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Well, Wikivoyage does not have a help desk but it does have a "tourist office." --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 18:59, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

SelfieCity, Tourist Office is already linked to Wikipedia:Reference desk which has a similar function. Since the Arrivals Lounge appears to function both to answer questions from new users and answer questions when any editor needs help, the Wikivoyage project needs to decide which to link to. We don't have a mechanism to link in this way to two places. StarryGrandma (talk) 15:06, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for taking the time to explain. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 15:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

URGENT

I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP ME TO COMPLETE MY ARTICLE, PLEASE MSG ASAP. many thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jahmai Purcell (talk • contribs) 16:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

There is no WP:DEADLINE, you might want to link to your article here. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 16:15, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

If you are talking about your draft at User:Jahmai Purcell/sandbox/Sir Frost, the problem is that it isn't clear where (if at all) there is significant coverage of the subject in published independent reliable sources. If you expand the "references" from bare urls to expanded citations it will assist reviewers, and at first glance it appears that the vast proportion are not secondary sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Please also, stop SHOUTING, as it is considered impolite. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

(Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:48, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Uploading pictures

How can i upload picture to wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdullah secrets (talk • contribs) 17:00, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Please, see Wikipedia:Uploading_images. Ruslik_Zero 19:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

How to add references for new text to reference list

Hello, Still very new to Wiki. I added new text to the Driving Simulator page, under the heading Validity, with several references but I do not know how to add these references to the references list. Where can I learn how to do this? --Pierrot2007 (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello Pierrot2007, when you add a well cited text to the article, the references are automatically added to the reference list, if it exists. On a page without reference list, you create a reference header with ==References==, press enter to go to new line and type {{reflist}} to create a new reference section. WP:REFB has all the information a new editor needs on the subject. Good luck! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Company trying to edit our own Wiki page

We are a company called simpleshow, and we already have a wiki page. I tried editing the page and published them. After a couple of weeks, the edits were reverted back to what used to appear before I edited it. How can I edit the information on our company and keep it up there? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.236.85.190 (talk) 18:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. It is best if you don't edit a page you are closely connected to. Please read the guidance at WP:COI. You will also need to comply with WP:PAID disclosures. The best action is to place your suggested edits on the article's talk page along with {{edit request}}, and an unconnected editor will evaluate the proposed changes. RudolfRed (talk) 18:26, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello IP user, the answer above is to be kept in mind if and when your company has an wikipedia article on the subject. The current page that you tried to edit is not an wikipedia article. It's a guide page for wikipedia editors on how best to use your company's product to aid in contributing to wikipedia. Such pages are only supposed to be a simple guide on how to use it, not a repository of information about the company. Perhaps, your company/product deserves an actual wikipedia article as well. If so, I am sure someone will get around to creating that one as well. Regards! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Additionally, there is a policy against a single user editing related pages with two different accounts. Please see WP:SOCK for more information. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:16, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

And a policy against an ID representing a group of people. All wikipedia editors are expected to be single persons who can take responsibility for their actions individually and as such don't refer to themself with "we". I know it's a lot to take in. But, better to be aware of such things, than not. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Usedtobecool, your last two comments are irrelevant. (1) I can't see any indication that this violates WP:SOCK and (2) there is no policy prohibiting IPs from being used by miltiple users, only usernames. IPs are often shared by a large pool of customers. --MrClog (talk) 19:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

MrClog, Did you check out the history of the relevant page yet? Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:36, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Usedtobecool, I saw various IPs editing the page, but no indication of SOCK. --MrClog (talk) 19:40, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

MrClog, there's only one IP edit on the page I'm seeing. We might be talking about different pages. In any case, it was a friendly reminder to a new user that I expected would help. If my comments came out otherwise, I'd be happy to reconsider my approach/wording. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:48, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Usedtobecool, generally, informing editors about all sorts of polcies and guidelines they may be violating can be seen as intimidating and hostile, even when that is clearly not your intent. --MrClog (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Feedback?

Can anyone give feedback for my user page?

- Comrade ~Sir~ 19:47, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

User:Sir Madam It looks fine to me. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 20:03, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Why was my page deleted?

Hi, I had just posted a page, but I actually would like to rename it. Do I need to create a completely new page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wharton Equity (talk • contribs) 19:39, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Wharton Equity: You were trying to use Wikipedia as a web host and/or for advertising, which is not permitted. Do not repost that page again in any form. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Grammar help! Different grammar websites returning different results!

The sentence I need help with is this: Another one of Sir’s subjects that requires major improvement is Sir's reading.

Some websites say that it should be "require", while some say it's correct either way. Please help!

- Comrade ~Sir~ 20:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Sir Madam, it could be either, depending on your meaning. If you want the sentence to mean "Of Sir's subjects that require major improvement, one is Sir's reading", you would use "require". If you want the sentence to mean "Of Sir's subjects, one that requires major improvement is Sir's reading", you would use "requires". Because the sentence is inherently ambiguous, I'd just rewrite it to be clearer. Schazjmd (talk) 21:06, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Martha Alf wiki page

Hello,

I have been making contributions to a the Martha Alf wiki page. There are a couple flags I would like to address. The first suggests the page reads like a resume and a new one was placed on there today calling the relevance of the entire page into question.

Many changes have been made since the first flag went up so I removed it today hoping the issue would be resolved. I feel that listing the exhibits and collections will help users to find articles, works of art, and a record of exhibitions relating to the artist. To my surprise, another user put the flag back and added the new flag.

My concern is that the user that added the new flag may be doing so out of bias towards women. There are plenty of references there to establish this artist's relevance through major publications and exhibitions. Looking at this user's other edits and profile, he appears to making politically motivated and bias edits on a range of Wikipedia pages.

I'm rather new to editing wiki pages so I'm looking for some help here. Is there anyone here who can review the page and help to improve upon it's value as a contribution to the Wikipedia project without bias?

I did post on the offending user's talk page, is there anything else I can/should do to get the flags removed?

Thanks in advance for any attention given to this matter.

Jtucker77 (talk) 19:07, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Jtucker77. The interminable lists at the end of the article are in need of drastic paring down. Who wants to read such minutiae?--Quisqualis (talk) 19:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

I would recommend moving those long lists to the article's talk page, where discussion re: the improvement of the article takes place. Wikipedia articles should not be lists of news articles; instead, it should summarize information narrated in those news articles, using the news articles as references. By the way, it looks like the notability tag has already been removed, so that issue is resolved (at least for the time being). Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:14, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I removed the notability tag, because she is indisputably notable. I also removed most of the interminable unreferenced lists of exhibits. This is an encyclopedia not a copy of her curriculum vitae. Truly significant exhibitions can be added back, as long as they are well-referenced. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank You All!! Quisqualis Calliopejen1 Cullen328 Point taken about the lists, many were deleted previously which speaks to the scope and depth of Martha's work. Jtucker77 (talk) 21:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Stuff Animals Show

Can i edited my page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthony Bilardi (talk • contribs) 22:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes. It is your creation. You can edited it.--Quisqualis (talk) 22:26, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Here is your draft.--Quisqualis (talk) 22:32, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Anthony Bilardi, this draft seems to be about a show you made yourself. Unfortunately, the draft most likely won't be accepted because it doesn't have in-depth coverage in reliable independent sources. It's usually not a good idea to write articles about yourself or something you made; I suggest reading Wikipedia:Your first article to learn more about writing articles. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 02:47, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Birthdates of members on group articles

I already asked this on WP:BLP and WP:WikiProject Musicians, but I didn't get a response, so I'm hoping I can get an answer.

I've been noticing there's some inconsistencies when it comes to articles for bands or music groups. There are some (the J-pop related articles, especially) that will list the birthdates for members such as Angerme, Iris (Japanese band), Juice=Juice, Camellia Factory (and the editors are very adamant about keeping this format despite some information being trivia, such as member colors, which I had discussed with someone at Talk:Buono!). But I noticed for other articles, particularly for Korean idols like Iz One, and other rock bands like Negoto, Luna Sea, Babymetal, the editors kept the birthdates off the page as the article should focus on group activities only.

So my questions are:

Do we keep birthdates on group articles, especially if some members aren't notable enough to have their own article, or remove them as the article needs to focus on the group?
Are member colors considered BLP trivia?

Thanks. lullabying (talk) 03:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Help. In accurate information?

Hi there. So on a page (Saleen) there is someone who keeps changing the official ownership of the company. I know of this company and case and know who is the legal and official owner. And so I changed it. My edit was denied? And keeps reverting.

Now journalists are using the wiki to report incorrectly. It bothers me :)

What does someone like me do about this? Your expertise and guidance is greatly appreciated.

Mmcogood (talk) 16:51, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

The problem is that you have no independent published sources to back up your claim WP:V. An editor (who caould ba anyone) saying "I know" is not good enough. Until you find a veriafiable source you will be reverted automatically. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Martin of Sheffield: I disagree. The sources cited to show that the "acquisition" occurred don't actually support the text of the article. User:Mmcogood was correct to remove the statements, and I see that User:Bonadea has now removed them again. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

User:Mmcogood's justification was "I know of this company and case and know who is the legal and official owner", that is insufficient. User:Eagleash was reverting this to a statement with a source which contained "The chairman and CEO of Jiangsu Secco Automobile Technology Corporation is a certain Dr. Wang Xiaolin, pictured, and he also calls himself the Chairman and CEO of Saleen. What then is Steve Saleen, the famous founder of the Saleen business? His title is now ‘Founder and Vice Chairman’". If you look at the history User:Bonadea has deleted a different section which discussed the possibility of an electric version, and is therefore irrelevant to Mmcogood's question above. Personally I've no horse in this race (I hadn't even heard of Saleen till this cropped up), I was just replying to Mmcogood's question: "My edit was denied? And keeps reverting". Martin of Sheffield (talk) 18:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Oops re Bonadea; my bad. The source removed by Mmcogood most recently refers to "Saleen and its Chinese licensee Jiangsu Saleen Automotive Technology".[1] (Contradicted what the article said.) And that Carnewschina link is total speculation and in any event does not say that JSAT acquired Saleen. I agree that Mmcogood's appeals to personal knowledge should be disregarded, but the disputed text was not backed by reliable sources and should have been removed regardless of Mmcogood's edit summaries. I have no idea if JSAT surreptitiously acquired Saleen but there are certainly no WP:RS cited in the article to that effect. (ping User:Eagleash -- the removed text shouldn't be restored unless we have a reliable source that actually supports it) Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:54, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Calliopejen1: Your ping was added to an existing message (that does not work) and was malformatted anyway. Things seem a bit confused; I removed the unsourced information added by the OP and obviously agree it should not be restored without a decent source. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 19:22, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

THANKYOU ALL. I see everyone's point. I will find a press release from the company or something 'official' to link it to. Does that help? Do I upload the press release once I find it to the page? Or is linking enough? Mmcogood (talk) 18:24, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Martin of Sheffield: Thanks for the 'ping'. I was not the first editor to revert the unsourced change and it seems others have also done so subsequently. The OP left a message at my talk page to which I responded to try to clarify the situation. In this message he claimed to be an 'authorised expert' on Saleen which I queried and he says at his TP that he is not an employee. The connection however, has not been wholly clarified; authorised? by whom? etc. Is a press release going to be good enough here? Eagleash (talk) 18:39, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

The fundamental question therefore is: "Is CarNewsChina.com WP:RS or not"?

My hunch would be not. While I may enjoy negative press for Saleen more than most, absent an official statement from the company, filing of the now late (and anticipating a significant change) 10-K with the SEC, or other SEC filings, this is at best, speculative. Saleen Automotive's most recent SEC filings indicate that Saleen Automotive has a contract with JSAT to provide consulting and engineering services in furtherance of developing the "S1" vehicle (the intellectual property rights of which are owned by JSAT). [2] IPBilly (talk) 00:08, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Could you write up the relevant parts of the above with accurate citing please. Where there is disagreement with CNC, then record the disagreement, you'll need to steer a careful course between WP:OR and WP:V. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:35, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

I Want Some Help.

How Can i Put Notable Option In Wikipedia Page.There Is Some Popular & Famous Actors From My Village My District.So I Want to Put There Name In That Notable Person.And How Can I Put Photo In Original Wikipedia Nepali Celebrities Page Who Have No Photo In Wikipedia Page So Help Me.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimesh Bajagain (talk • contribs)

@Nimesh Bajagain: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please don't capitalize every word of your sentence, so your post is easier to read. Wikipedia has articles about subjects shown with independent reliable sources having significant coverage to meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability(more specifically, that of a notable actor). Not every actor merits an article on Wikipedia. It is very difficult to create a new article on Wikipedia; you may want to edit existing articles in topic areas that interest you first, to learn how to use Wikipedia. You may also want to use the new user tutorial.

Information on uploading images can be found at WP:UPIMAGE. Please understand that you must generally own the rights to the photo in order to be able to upload it; you can't just upload any photos that you want from anywhere. Photos of actors are usually owned by the photographer, sometimes by the actor themselves, meaning that you can't upload them without permission(which they may not want to give).

You may feel more comfortable editing the Nepali Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 10:07, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Nimesh Bajagain: to upload images to celebrities' pages, follow the advice and instructions in the previous answer. To add a list of notable people to an article about places, you can create a section for notable people on the article about that place, like in Kane County, Illinois. Such a list is suitable towards the end of the article and it's best if you only list people who already have a Wikipedia page. This kind of lists is accepted in articles of smaller places like a village or town but it has also been seen in pages of cities like Dharan. Such a list is inappropriate in articles of provinces or that of Nepal, perhaps for districts as well in most cases. To mention the origins of a notable person in the article of that notable person as you tried to do in pages of some Indian footballers, you need to make the edit with a source. When you make such an edit, link to a reliable source that verifies the claim. For proper formatting of inline citations, see WP:REFB. For an example, look at the page Anish Giri. There, even the name of the player is written in Devanagari at the very beginning of the article because there is a source provided for the claim that his father is of Nepali origin. Good luck! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 11:15, 25 July 2019 (UTC)