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March 10

Need to find guide-page.

Hello, can anyone please link the guide page to writing short summaries for anime or TV Shows. Thanks. SenatorLEVI 02:08, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@SenatorLEVI: Try MOS:TVPLOT. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!!!SenatorLEVI 05:06, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Help with references

I need to fix references 3, 4 cited at the end in the wiki article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rios-Caledonia_Adobe . The 'brochure' does not exist anymore and I need to instead link to the official website which has a self guided tour published in one of the pages of the website https://www.historic-rios-caledonia.org/museum-highlights.

Please help update. Thanks Schalkv (talk) 06:22, 10 March 2021 (UTC) schalkrv

Hello Schalkv, I've replaced the previous 3rd and 4th citations with the website you provided. However you should provide more sources since multiple statements rely too much on a single source. Morever you should link the sources, in the article talk page or just reference them to the apporopriate statements. SenatorLEVI 06:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Delete my last edits please!

Hi! Can someone please remove my edits made from 18:56, 09 Mar 2021 until now? Specifically the two (draft)pages I made on 18:56, 09 Mar 2021 and 08:15, 10 Mar 2021 ? I made a mistake while making those pages as they are now double but I can't seem to completely remove and/or delete those pages. Someone please help me!

Thank you,

user: Annavermeij — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annavermeij (talk • contribs) 09:06, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Annavermeij: Only administrators can delete pages. I have deleted Draft:Kim Sun-woo (Singer). Are you sure you also want the first page Draft:Kim Sun-woo deleted? There is no reason to delete it if you still want to work on a draft about Kim Sun-woo. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Please delete that page too as there was a mistake in the name. Thank you very much though! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annavermeij (talk • contribs) 09:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Annavermeij: If you are planning to create a third page then it's better to change the name of the existing page. Which name do you want, or do you no longer want to make any draft about him? PrimeHunter (talk) 09:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Could you maybe rename it to Kim Sun-woo (singer) ? I will continue to edit that page after the name is changed. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annavermeij (talk • contribs) 12:04, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

You don't need to worry about doing the renaming at present, Annavermeij. Your main issue will be in getting the draft accepted as an article, which means passing notbility test, as per WP:NSINGER. If accepted, the draft can be moved to the correct title later. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:09, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

National African American Gun Association - Wrong information regarding origin

Hello Editors,

First of all thank you for recognizing my organization that I founded. My name is Philip Smith, National President of The National African American Gun Association

In placing information about the origin and purpose of NAAGA you have made some serious errors. They are the following:

1) Smith founded NAAGA in response to perceived discrimination in the National Rifle Association (NRA).[3]

( that is incorrect. I founded NAAGA to give our community an Firearms Organization that was built for the Black Community and allowed us to voice our Black perspective on Firearms related issues. It wasn't because of the NRA or any other organization. We don't worry nor do we focus on any other group except ourselves.

2) Reasons for our growth are diverse. Our members aren't monolithic. They all join for different reasons, it could be Hunting, domestic abuse survivor, Self Defense, and/or Sports Shooting as it relates to African Americans.....and Politics.

I hope that helps

Philip Smith National President — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:19C1:A5E0:3CBE:D360:9EC0:D1D9 (talk) 11:49, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Any concerns about the content of the article should be made as formal edit requests(click for instructions) on the article talk page, Talk:National African American Gun Association. Please understand that Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources state about a subject, not what it wants to say about itself. If you have independent reliable sources that discuss why you created the organization, please offer them in your edit request; we need something verifiable, not just your word. 331dot (talk) 11:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Super straight (sexual orientation) - how to make the corrections to the draft?

This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Super_straight_(sexual_orientation)

Good day. I tried to make an article but it was sent back to make it better before submission

How can it be improved? Thank you for help — Preceding unsigned comment added by UkraineQueer (talk • contribs) 13:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

UkraineQueer, the user who reviewed your draft made this suggestion: This needs more coverage to show that this isn't just a neologism. It also needs to be written to be more neutral and encompass all of the coverage it's received in the media, including the copious amounts of criticism. By that, they mean that you need to include some more reliable sources to show that it isn't just an insignificant phrase that will fade in a few weeks. Try to find more sources discussing it, such as major news sources, etc. The reviewer also said that they would kindly mention your draft at WikiProject Sexology and sexuality so that some editors with experience in this subject matter can assist you. Another issue raised was that we had to be 100% sure that the article is written in a nuetral point of view, meaning that we don't appear to be in support of the sexuality or against it, regardless of whether you actually are or not. We have to give due weight to all of the criticism that is very present, but also make mention of the people that support it. I hope that helps a bit. Other editors are likely to chime in with more advice. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 13:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

• I also chimed in at the LGBT WikiProject. I'm definitely concerned about this coming across as non-neutral, so this will need to be approached very carefully so that it's neither pro nor anti for the term. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:43, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

How to edit category ?

Hello Wikipedia Administrator or Any Rights holders ! I attempt many times to edit category but it cannot happen . Please tell me how to edit.Thank you(Fade258 (talk) 17:11, 10 March 2021 (UTC))

@Fade258: Which type of edit are you trying to make to which category? You made a sensible edit [1] to a category but reverted yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:23, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, I am not talking about edit which is recently mentioned in your reply.I am talking about How to add content in category page.(Fade258 (talk) 17:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC))

@Fade258: Which type of content? If you want pages to be listed in the category then see Help:Category#Putting pages into categories. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:,Please read this once If i want to add content in this category of section 0-9 Part then. How can i add content in that section i.e. 0-9.(Fade258 (talk) 17:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC))

@Fade258: Content under 0–9 or letter headings cannot be added by editing the category page. The only type of content you can add there is adding pages to the category as described at Help:Category#Putting pages into categories. See Wikipedia:Categorization#Sort keys for how to control where in a category a member page is listed. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Fade258: Try clicking on any template in that category, and then click the "Edit source" tab on the template. Scroll all the way to the bottom of the source, and you'll see <noinclude>[[Category:India cricket templates]]</noinclude>. The Category in brackets adds the template to the category, and the <noinclude>...</noinclude> tags ensure that articles containing the template are NOT included in the category. Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 17:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi @PrimeHunter:, My question is about how to add content any category?(Fade258 (talk) 14:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC))

@Fade258: Content above the headings "Subcategories" or "Pages in category" is edited by editing the category page like any other page. The only thing you can do below those headings is to add subcategories or pages to the category as described at Help:Category#Putting pages into categories. I keep telling you this and linking that page. If it doesn't answer your question then please be more specific. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:54, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter,Please see this page there is section/part i.e. 0-9 and on that section there were many templates for example see this. If i want to add this template then how i add that template.My main question is this.Please help me.(Fade258 (talk) 14:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC))

PrimeHunter, This is my last question.Please answer me without any hesitation.Please see,recently i have edit the category and add this template but this template isn't place in 0-9.So please yourself add that template to this section i.e. 0-9.Thank you !(Fade258 (talk) 15:22, 12 March 2021 (UTC))

Dude, to categorise a template, you place the category name into the template page, not the template name into the category page. Simples? Okay, it’s counter-intuitive, but think of it like labels / tags in a blog post or hashtags in a tweet. See the source for 2020 IPL match 56, at the bottom it says <noinclude>[[Category:India cricket templates]]</noinclude>, just like GoingBatty said. Was the Help page that PrimeHunter linked difficult to understand? — Pelagic ( messages ) – (01:25 Sun 14, AEDT) 14:25, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@Pelagic:,I am still not understand about you.Please do yourself once.(Fade258 (talk) 14:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC))

@PrimeHunter, GoingBatty, and Pelagic:, After long time my problem is finally solved.I would like to thank you all of you for being involved in my questions/problem l.Once again thank you so much.(Fade258 (talk) 14:44, 13 March 2021 (UTC))

I’m glad that you worked it out, Fade258. May I ask which bits of advice or instruction were most effective for you? Pelagic ( messages ) – (08:12 Sun 14, AEDT) 21:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Adding an article piece on Peace Innovation

Hello,

I wanted to see if I can add an article piece on Peace Innovation in Wikipedia's Peace page under movements subsection. Is this possible and how can I go about getting it.

Best, Fiti Taupau — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalameli28 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kalameli28: What exactly is Peace Innovation? AdmiralEek (talk) 20:36, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Page draft

I recently made a new page on someone, how do I submit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NHEJEJ (talk • contribs) 18:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

You add the template {{subst:Submit}} at the very top. And then wait, it can take some time. You can continue improving the article while you wait. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)NHEJEJ, I have added the "Submit the draft for review" button on the draft, you can't miss it. Go ahead and click the button and you'll be on your way. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 18:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

There is, however, no hope your draft Draft:Joe Blystone will be accepted in its current state. We need independent reliable sources, not just WP:PRIMARY ones from the person's own website. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Undoing undiscussed move

A user changed draft name from Super straight (sexual orientation) to Super straight without any discussion

Please undo this change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Super_straight

Also, another reason is that article with such a name already exists - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Straight UkraineQueer (talk) 18:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

UkraineQueer, I have taken care of this. Please see the talk page for relevant discussion. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 18:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Why separate articles for Rashtriya Ispat Nigam and Visakhapatnam Steel Plant?

Why separate articles for Rashtriya Ispat Nigam and Visakhapatnam Steel Plant?

I find it both are same. RINL is also called Visakhapatnam Steel Plant. Rizosome (talk) 18:49, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Rizosome: Sometimes articles on same subject get created by different people. You can start a discussion on the article's talk pages to suggest they be merged. See WP:MERGE for more info. RudolfRed (talk) 19:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Looking at the articles, Rashtriya Ispat Nigam is the company, and Visakhapatnam Steel Plant is the place that they own. So it's possible that both are useful- if they had different content, and weren't both tagged as "written like an advertisment". Joseph2302 (talk) 21:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

{{Template:Juworld.net}}

Hi. Please could you help me to extend this template? Dr Salvus (talk) 21:24, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: How would you like to extend the template? GoingBatty (talk) 23:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

GoingBatty I would like that you and other users made some adjustements. I'm not very experienced in this things. Dr Salvus (talk) 23:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: I understand that you don't know how to extend the template, but I don't understand your goal. What do you want the template to do that it doesn't already do? GoingBatty (talk) 23:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

GoingBatty [Juworld.net] is an unofficial site about Juventus. There are statistics about players and coaches of Juventus etc. Dr Salvus (talk) 14:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: Yes, I see that {{Juworld.net}} provides a link to https://juworld.net/ but it's going to be hard for anyone to help you if you cannot articulate how you want to make the template better. GoingBatty (talk) 20:34, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Michael Avenatti's article keeps getting changed.

My name is CJ.

I made several changes to the Michael Avenatti page and they keep getting changed back. I even linked to the sources as required by Wikistandards.

I corrected that he is now a former attorney as his license was revoked by the California state bar and is no longer able to practice law, and I also noted that he is a convicted felon and cited the source of that as well.

Someone keeps changing it back. I suspect it could be monitored by some sort of reputation suppression bot (which many rich attorneys use who try to cover up shady things they've done in the past), but you may want to change it back to the corrections I'd made, and then potentially lock it. Someone is obviously trying to hide something here.

Please contact me for more info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agentgfunk (talk • contribs) 22:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Agentgfunk: The Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle is common on Wikipedia. You boldly edited the article in good faith to try to improve it, and another editor reverted your edits twice. The next step is to discuss it on the article's talk page: Talk:Michael Avenatti. Hopefully, the editor who reverted your changes will join the discussion to explain what they meant by "undoing as it's related to other changes that will be undone". Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:10, 10 March 2021 (UTC)