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September 14

"Freak City" entry

I have entered information about my coining the original phrase and my intellectual property "Freak City" and citing references...Library of Congress Copyright...Dept of Patents and Trademarks...and published "Freak City" catalogs.

Can you tell me why my entry has been deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.163.95 (talk) 00:22, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Because it is not encyclopedic content. Wikipedia is not for things made up one day; it is not for publicizing obscure neologisms in an effort to make them popular; and it is not for marketing and promotion. (Also: neither copyrights nor patents nor trademarks are issued to anonymous IP addresses.) --Orange Mike | Talk 00:42, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Nor are they issued for an "original phrase".--ukexpat (talk) 01:44, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk Page

Will anyone have the gumption to report User:Niemti to stop erasing my talk on the Talk:Innocence of Muslims I would have the right to talk about the article thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by GoShow (talk • contribs)

I'm afraid the removals were in line with policy, per Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines, and I quote "Talk pages are for discussing the article, not for general conversation about the article's subject (much less other subjects). Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article. Comments that are plainly irrelevant are subject to archival or removal." The comments that Niemti removed appear to be a general discussion about the content of the film, not about changes to the Wikipedia article. The talk page is there purely to facilitate discussions about the text of the Wikipedia article, not a discussion about the subject of the article itself. I hope this clears this up. It would have been nice had Niemti explained this when the comments were removed, but the removal was appropriate. --Jayron32 04:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Never mind there was a discussion section so there were opinions about the film, but a thanks at least anyway.--GoShow (...............) 04:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

The Jekyll island history center

The Jekyll island history center has housed, for over 27 years a company that does narrated tours of the historic district on Jekyll island, via the authentic transportation of the time, a horse and carriage. This is not listed in your decription and you'd artical is therefor incomplete. The company's name is Three oaks and was named after a ledgandary local oak tree that started as three seedlings and grew into one massive oak tree. Their website is www.threeoakscarriageandtrail.com It is realy unfair to visitors to not have any idea that this service is offered there! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.252.162.172 (talk) 05:08, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a vehicle for promotion, or a tourist guide. For this company to be mentioned in the article will require both that the company or their service is notable, i.e. has been written about by independent reliable source, and that a consensus of editors of the article agree that the material belongs in the article. If you want something added about the company, and you can find the necessary independent sources, you may add it to the article; but if there is any risk that the addition might be seen as promotional (and certainly if you are connected with the company), it would be better to begin a discussion about it on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 10:59, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Born again

Dear,

Born again is NOT a protestant term as described, it is term from the Mouth of Yeshua HaMassiah or as you like Jesus Christ Son of God, presenting God in the World.

See Bible

Unless someone is born again he cant inherit the Kingdom of God so it is not a protestant term ( wherever you get this from) But a statement from Heaven as MOST important- ex ally it present to repent and receive JESUS CHRIST AS saviour King.

be born again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.207.155.155 (talk) 07:55, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Uh, do you have a question about "how to use and edit Wikipedia"? A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 08:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

If this is about the content of Born again (Christianity) please post on Talk:Born again (Christianity). But keep in mind Wikipedia has a neutral point of view.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:21, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

VPR discussion closed. What to do next?

What should I do now regarding this recently closed village pump discussion? Do I have to file a bug at bugzilla or what needs to be done to get this implemented? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 09:18, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

No— Gadgets are installed locally. See Wikipedia:Gadget and make a proposal. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:09, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

A proposal at Wikipedia:Gadget/proposals should link to a script. You could suggest User:PrimeHunter/My subpages.js. I know very little about JavaScript and gadgets but it works for me. If it has problems then somebody will probably point it out. I suggest you install it yourself before the proposal. It would seem a bit odd to suggest something you don't even use. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:20, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I made the proposal here. Thanks PrimeHunter for making this gadget, works fine. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 13:03, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

i need help here in cameroon

i left cameroon to lagos nigeria to pursue my music carrier.just for me to get there things changed.i could here sounds see spirits in the dark.i can read the bull signs on inscripted on cars,i back like a wolf i speak like a prophet.i get inspired like i'm from heaven.i guess pac's spirit leave in me .i'm confuse right now .the music industry in lagos spotted me via my two friends who we leave together.please they want to kill me so i'm going back to cameroon.my name is <redacted>.25yrs old.all these happened after i prayed and fasted for seven days.as i speak,they strike me with burns all over my face ,hans,knees and down to my leg.i have the prophecy of the end time and how the bitch will be kill via awareness.THE NEW WOLRD ORDER.PLS SEND SOME ONE TO CAMEROON.I WILL BE THERE BY 18 THI MONTH. but presently i'm in calabar border to cameroon.i can sing like him eexactly i believe he's back.please tyr me and see..they shot me in lagos but i was surprise nothing happened.the want to hide the truth i bring.tee-truth jay.my address in cameroon.<redacted>.my mum's mobile <redacted phone number>.let's do it i will be waiting.now i see the positive change.i luv my twin brother pac it is time to take back ........

Uh, LOL. Unusual requests? - ¡Ouch! (^{hurt me} / _{more pain}) 09:43, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Why not? A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 10:28, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Where to request renaming a "file"?

File:A_captain_horatio_nornblower_CAPTAIN_HORATIO_HORNBLOWER-11.jpg

The name is

1 - misspelled

2 - redundant

3 - quite long.

How are these cases handled on wikipedia?

Furthermore, if it was shot in 1951, its copyright will expire in 2021. Is there a way to mark it for moving to the Commons in 2021? - ¡Ouch! (^{hurt me} / _{more pain}) 09:29, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi One.Ouch.Zero! If you put the {{Rename media|new name.ext|reason for name change}} template on the image]s description page, it will be put into Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming. (As I'm sure you are aware, "*.ext" means the file's Filename extension.) An admin or a user with the "Wikipedia:File mover" permission will move the file, if appropriate.

I'm no expert, but I'm fairly sure that there is no may to mark it for a move to Commons so far in the future. Hope this helps! --Shirt58 (talk) 10:03, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Update: I have gone ahead and added "It has been suggested that this media object be renamed to File:Screenshot of HMS Lydia as depicted in the 1951 film Captain Horatio Hornblower RN.jpg or a more suitable name for the following reason: The file name contains misspellings and is not a concise description of the file itself." The suggested file name may still be to long, so I have not moved it myself. --Shirt58 (talk) 10:36, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I added a section on renaming files to Help:Files. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

That section seems like a lot for an issue most users never deal with. I would only have added a link like "See Wikipedia:File mover for renaming of files." PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Please discuss at Help talk:Files. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Petyer Tonkin Article

Dear Sir

Thtere has been an article about my work as a best selling international author in Wikipedia for some years but it had suddenly disappeared. I was wondering why ythis is and what I need to do in order to reinstate it.

Peter Tonkin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.123.172.58 (talk) 12:48, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

The article Peter Tonkin (which currently shows as a red-link, since there is no such article) was deleted by User:Jimfbleak on 30 May, with the comment "A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject". i.e the article as it stood did not contain the references to independent reliable sources which are required to show that a subject passes the notability test. If there are in fact such sources, then there could be a new article written about you; but because of your conflict of interest, you should not be the one to write it. Your best bet, if there are such sources (note that sources connected with you or your publishers are not considered independent, and so cannot be used to establish notability), is to go to WP:Requested Articles and ask for somebody to write an article. If you were to include references to the independent reliable sources in your request, that would make it more likely that somebody would pick up the request. --ColinFine (talk) 13:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Colin that's not quite right. The threshold for surviving a speedy deletion nomination ("does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject") is lower than the notability threshold (significant coverage in reliable sources to demonstrate notability). It is perfectly possible for an article to survive a speedy deletion nomination, but to be deleted subsequently for failing to demonstrate notability.--ukexpat (talk) 14:08, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Chandrika Balan

Dear Sir/Madam

Aritcle on Chandrika Balan was created sometime back. I wish to know how I can send her picture to be placed on the right hand side box as is shown of other writers. I have her photo. Kindly let me know how I can send it to you or how I can affix it myself.

I had asked the question before but the reply was not clear to me as the reply was to get license etc. and talking about images. I am making it clear that I want the photo of Chandrika Balan to be placed alongside her article.

Your help and cooperation is greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panank (talk • contribs) 15:39, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

We MUST address the license issue, before you can upload the photo. To start with:

• Did you take the photograph yourself?
• If you did not, do you know the photographer, and are you able to contact them directly?

thanks, --Robert Keiden (talk) 15:52, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

How the hell do I download a movie?

This is a way-too complicated website. I just want to download a film, but am having trouble figuring out how to do it. Please advise. Incidently, this should be front and center on the entertainment page, not something you have to dig out. All the links to the movie just lead you in a circle, none of them actually takes you to a "download here" page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bushfilm (talk • contribs) 16:06, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

This is a website for an encyclopedia. Which film are you trying to download?--Robert Keiden (talk) 16:14, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm not being disingenuous here, Bushfilm: I really want to understand your thinking. What led you to believe that you would be able to download a movie from an encyclopedia? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

See Template:Astray for a common answer when we suspect a poster doesn't realize this is an encyclopedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:16, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

The template in question is not applicable in this case, though, because the querent is asking a question about how to use Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:21, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

This one has got to go on WP:Unusual requests. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:54, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

He has since sent me an e-mail whose wording leads me to suspect he's been told, "you can download porn from Wikipedia if you know where to look!" I suspect Sanger or Kohs propaganda efforts are behind it. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:57, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking Innocence of Muslims, being currently notable enough that Bushfilm could plausibly address it as "the movie." It's a shame that Sanger won't tell us where to look.--Robert Keiden (talk) 06:15, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

It is the only post of an account created 20 minutes before. The post mentions downloading a film and "the entertainment page" whatever that is, but doesn't mention Wikipedia or signs of realizing this is an encyclopedia. Hence I thought the poster might be at the wrong site but if Wikipedia was mentioned in an email then at least Bushfilm knows the name of the site. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:52, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

The film he mentions in the e-mail is The Hitchhiker. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:58, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

I was guessing he meant in terms of .ogg or similar types of files, but, I was able to rightclick for ones from Commons in IE8. Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 16:41, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Kinsley Power Systems article creation

Can I please have someone also also review my article for submission? The article is titled" Kinsley Power Systems."

Thank you so much for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinsleyanalytics (talk • contribs) 16:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Can someone else please review the article I've been trying to create and publish? I have added the correct citations yet it still gets denied. The link is below.

Thanks, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kinsley Power Systems — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinsleyanalytics (talk • contribs) 16:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

References are only part of the problem. The draft reads like a promotional piece for the company in violation of WP:SPAM. Your user name is also a problem, see WP:COI and WP:CORPNAME.--ukexpat (talk) 16:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Donations...

got an email, maybe phishing, that you need donations. Went to the site and found it very complicated to do so. YOU SHOULD HAVE A BIG BUTTON FOR DONATIONS on every page. Then, it should only require a few clicks esp. to donate via PayPal. In marketing we call this minimising activational energy. In other words, this has to be done for you guys to stay afloat. I am so sure of this I will not donate until you have such a button on your website. Frankly, I find it hard to believe you don't have this function I am really disappointed. If having this button installed and working easily doesn't increase your annual donations by at least $250K I'll be shocked. So, please think of this e-mail as worth that much money.

Good luck and feel free to e-mail me when you have this button installed.

P.S. One should not have to have an account with you to donate. You don't seem to get it. Make it easy to donate spontaneously and your donations will increase dramatically. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.72.27.159 (talk) 17:04, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest. As you say, it may have been phishing. All Wikipedia pages have a "Donate to Wikipedia" link below the Wikipedia logo in the upper left corner. It should be easy to donate for most people and no Wikipedia account is needed. For a period each year there is a fundraising drive with a donation banner at top of pages. See meta:Fundraising. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It was probably phishing if it asked for an account (that is, a Wikipedia one). You do not need an account to donate. I have a feeling that we don't have a big donate button (but rather, a normal sized link in the navigation sidebar) because it would be visually unappealing to a significant number of Wikipedians. We do have a banner across the top of all/most pages during the fundraising drives, though. The donation process through PayPal for me would have taken 3-5 clicks, had I finished it.

Also, nobody will email you about this because that's not what we do when people give us emails on this page. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:32, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

How do I restore a previous version

I tried to add one line to an article and the entire article (except for my one line) disappeared. How do I make the previous version the current version ? The page in question is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crossings_of_Moodna_Creek

Thanks Slakritz (talk) 19:14, 14 September 2012 (UTC) slakritz

List of crossings of Moodna Creek (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

At the top of the article, click on Article History. Click on the time stamp for the last "good" version. This will show that version. Click Edit at the top of the page. Ignore the warning that you're editing an old version of the article. Save. Dismas|^(talk) 19:24, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I've just reverted the OP's removal of the article contents in favour of local news that the road is temporarily blocked by a fallen tree. It is not what Wikipedia is for. Astronaut (talk) 19:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Astronaut. For another time you may want to edit, the existing article text should be in the edit box when you start an edit. Don't remove it before saving. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:39, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing this. However, I need to figure out what went wrong in the first place. (Why the article disappeared). So far, all pages that I try to edit disappear from the edit box. It displays briefly and then disappears. Is there something I need to set up in my account? (I am using Mozilla Firefox 15.0) Slakritz (talk) 19:53, 14 September 2012 (UTC)slakritz

It happened again when you made this edit so we had to restore the old content. While we discuss it, please edit an empty section below to avoid deleting the existing posts, and don't edit other pages. Have you changed anything in Special:Preferences since creating your account? Do you have browser add-ons? Can you try another browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I did not mean to delete my question from the Help Desk (How do I restore a previous version). Thank you for fixing this. However, I need to figure out what went wrong in the first place. (Why the article disappeared). So far, all pages that I try to edit disappear from the edit box. It displays briefly and then disappears. Is there something I need to set up in my account? (I am using Mozilla Firefox 15.0). This is probably what happened when I tried to add this comment to the help desk original question. I was going to leave a message on Jauerback talk page, but again everything in the edit box disappeared so I was scared to post anything there. What am I doing wrong? Slakritz (talk) 20:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)slakritz

I moved your latest post up here. You cannot revert to an old version while you have this error. Something in your browser or account settings must be incompatible with Wikipedia. It should work by default so if you haven't changed your account settings then it sounds like your browser. I use Firefox 15.0.1 with no problems. I vaguely recall another user with the same problem but not whether it was solved. Try http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/disable-or-remove-add-ons. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Empty section

I switched to Internet Explorer and that seems to have fixed the problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slakritz (talk • contribs) 20:09, 14 September 2012 (UTC) I also noticed that I have a Java plug-in for Firefox that has been disabled. There is a message that says it is unstable. I wonder if this could be the problem when using FireFox. Slakritz (talk) 20:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)slakritz

Problem verifying sources for an official biography.

Hello. This is a representant of "Tiffany Amber (Songwriter)" . I have gotten a message that the biography I just wrote is going to be taken down...? T.A is officially credited (ascap) on all the songs I have mentioned in this text. She is also mentioned on the Wikipedia links of all songs, but hasn't got an official page on here yet. Now, I got a message saying that I need a reliable source. I have many, where do I verify?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ta2222 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to say, but with phrases like "has kept an extremely low profile", "Being rumoured to be a writing partner of Max Martin and Shellback", "very little is known about her", "She never does interviews nor does she talk about her songwriting" and "Various rumours and speculations have been made around who the person behind this psedonym is but no one has figured it out as of yet"; it all suggests someone who has not been written about in reliable sources and therefore probably doesn't meet Wikipedia's general notability critera and the notability criteria for musicians. Adding some third party references, if you can find any, will help, but without them the article will almost certainly be deleted. Astronaut (talk) 19:47, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Watchlist e-mail notifications

I have my watchlist set to e-mail me when a page changes, and for at least three or four days, those e-mails have not arrived (and yes, I remembered to check my spam filter. IIRC, I've also told it that Wikipedia is an approved sender anyway). Any idea what happened, or how to fix it? Seanette (talk) 19:56, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I tested it after your post and it works for me. Can you receive other emails from Wikipedia, for example when you mail yourself at Special:EmailUser/Seanette? I always receive Wikipedia mail in seconds. Mails may be blocked somewhere before reaching your mail software. Can you try another email address from another service, for example a free webmail from Comparison of webmail providers if you only have one email address now. You can change address at Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:20, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Francis Judd Cooke biography

Dear Wikipedia, I'm trying to correct an error in one of the names listed in the boxes on the same page as my father's biography. I can't seem to access the boxes, however, in order to make the correction. I can only access the text of his biography, which appears to be error-free. Thanks Here's the correction for the box: Mother's name Sophie Boyd Judd (not Sarah....) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhankuta (talk • contribs) 22:01, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done Strange. The life paragraph was correct, but the infobox was changed. Thanks!! intelati/talk 22:04, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

For another time, click the "Edit" tab at top of the page to edit the whole page including the lead. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:09, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Savannah Smith may be deleted

I tried to correct a minor spelling on Savannah Smith, and it says it may be deleted because there are no references. There are many references, so I'm not sure what needs to be done. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by FFBFFB (talk • contribs) 22:37, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Savannah Smith is not currently nominated for deletion. It was nominated 2 September when there were no references. If you think of the message at User talk:FFBFFB then it's from September 2. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:15, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

WLTN-FM and WLTN-AM Traded In IRN USA Radio Network For CBS Radio Network News

I've noticed that ever since Summer 2011, WLTN-FM has now been airing CBS Radio Network News at the top of every hour (just as they do over on their co-owned station, WXXS-FM). They even featured a promotional advertisement during July and August 2011 of WLTN Radio's newly-found affiliation with the CBS Radio Network. Although I don't have any non-refutable evidence that this switch has occurred, I can certainly tell you from first-hand experience that this change HAS taken place and is applicable to WLTN Radio as a whole (meaning that both WLTN-FM and WLTN-AM are affected by this latest change). I thank you for your time and would appreciate your attention to this latest update here. (This Update Comment Initially Posted at 17:21 on 8 July 2011 (UTC) 98.229.132.126 (talk) 23:40, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. RudolfRed (talk) 01:30, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Post this information on Talk:WLTN (AM) and Talk:WLTN-FM. You could also update the articles yourself.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I see you already did and no one responded.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:49, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and made the change. Hopefully no one will revert it because it was unsourced.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:54, 17 September 2012 (UTC)