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Hello!

In fact, at Programming Insider, the L+7 data posted on the daily ratings pages and the L+7 ratings posted as a separate page are the exact same data. Doug Pucci updates the daily ratings posts with L+7 data and then his separate L+7 post only accounts for the top 50 from that week. If "Beauty" data doesn't show up on the top 50 weekly post, it is absolutely totally valid to get that data from the daily ratings page. I do not understand your reason for reverting, so please explain. Rswallis10 (talk) 23:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@Rswallis10:, not the same thing. They are from the Showbuzz Daily from the episode table. — YoungForever(talk) 23:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
It is the same exact information, it is all from Nielsen. You have not at all addressed your reasons for reverting a perfectly valid edit. Rswallis10 (talk) 23:19, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Also, just as a note, there is no official standard for how many significant digits after a decimal place we use in DVR tables. For episode lists, you are correct that it is 2 decimal places for shows averaging 1m+ viewers, but I can point you to a number of broadcast programs that use 3 decimal places in their DVR tables. As of right now, it is a matter of preference and NOT a standard. Rswallis10 (talk) 23:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
@Rswallis10: You are incorrect, please read MOS:TVRECEPTION which states: viewership should be presented in tables or templates as being rounded to the nearest million (for example, 2,653,000 should be written as 2.65). — YoungForever(talk) 23:30, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
In addition, other stuff exist. A small amount TV series articles that show 3 decimal points for 1.00+ viewers isn't the majority of the articles. — YoungForever(talk) 23:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
As I said, that absolutely applies to episode tables; however, there is no standard for DVR viewers. Also, you are dismissing it as a "small amount" when it is actually done on quite a number of TV show articles. That's not even what I care about. If you want to leave the viewership as 2 decimal places (for whatever reason) then go for it. However, by not rounding the 18-49 ratings, you are actually making some of the information in the table incorrect. For example, in episode 4 of Beauty and the Baker, the unrounded L+SD is 0.46 (rounds to 0.5), the unrounded L+7 rise is 0.26 (rounds to 0.3) and the unrounded L+7 is 0.74 (rounds to 0.7). When you show the unrounded, the math makes sense: 0.46+0.26=0.74; however, when you show the roundeds, it looks like: 0.5+0.3=0.7 which is obviously not true. Again, I don't care about the viewership (and if it conflicts with ShowBuzz, then just STOP USING SHOWBUZZ it's really that easy!), but the way you have your demos right now can be extremely confusing for readers. Rswallis10 (talk) 23:59, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
@Rswallis10: FYI, Showbuzz Daily is the original source, before you decided to removed it and changed. There is not wrong with using Showbuzz Daily. — YoungForever(talk) 00:03, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
And yet another reply completely ignoring my key points, alas. Just as an FYI- both ShowBuzzDaily & Programming Insider are primary sources for Nielsen ratings. Neither gets their information from the other. It is completely inconsequential which site was the "original source" for the rating. If a better source comes along, one is allowed to change it. In fact, I recommend using Programming Insider for broadcast ratings as they have the most up-to-date ratings information. As the page stands right now, the 18-49 DVR ratings are rounded and therefore not an accurate depiction of the ratings, using unroundeds is better, but this isn't a hill I'm willing to die on. Rswallis10 (talk) 02:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
@Rswallis10: Showbuzz Daily have updated their ratings. Nothing wrong with using Showbuzz Daily's ratings. You are just arguing that Programming Insider 's ratings are more accurate. The rounding applies to {{Television episode ratings}}) and {{Television season ratings}, not just episode tables, please read MOS:TVRECEPTION. Nowhere under MOS:TVRECEPTION, said that the rounding only applies to episode tables. — YoungForever(talk) 04:31, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
You, like many Wikipedia editors before you, are absolutely impossible to reason with. I've literally been tracking the Nielsen ratings for 15+ years and editing them here on Wikipedia for more than 6 - I'm very aware how things work here and how stubborn other members are when confronted with any kind of positive change. So ends my communication on this topic. Rswallis10 (talk) 21:53, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Nonconstructive Edits on Batwoman?

Maxcardun here.

I'll admit the contribution I made to Crisis on Infinite Earths may have been slightly off considering that Supergirl and Batwoman did have an Interaction and that certain members have a passion about the rules and what is "Important to the plot". Considering also that bombs go boom even though the ignorant characters in the show called that weapon a "shrink bomb", yes I'll admit that was probably not one of my most constructive.

But hey you have to admit that LaMonica Garret was more of a guest character in that Crossover than he is part of the "Main Cast" of Batwoman.

I would also appreciate if you would remove your citation of said edits from my talk page, I am not a vandal. If you would like to teach me how to better use Wikipedia I am open but please, don't cite me for making a mistake. I currently forgot how to sign my signature on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxcardun (talkcontribs) 18:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Please see Talk:Batwoman (TV series)/Archive 1#LaMonica Garrett as starring where the consensus was reached which went through WP:RFC. You went against consensus which was reached months ago, this is considered to be disruptive editing. — YoungForever(talk) 18:57, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Considering not everyone is part of this little club I was not invited too, after reading said consensus it does not make sense why LaMonica Garret is in the main billing. Your group may have to change their minds when you import the episode guide and some of the cast into a "Batwoman Season 1" Article. Something I'm sure none of you thought about in advance. But that's what I get for trying to edit a page where liberal people are just about ready to fight anyone just for the sake of fighting. Don't worry I'm not going to touch it, you all can mess it up as much as you want, in the next 10 years or less you probably won't care by then. Maxcardun (talkcontribs) 10:07, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
It is not enough info to warrant a whole season article for season 1 yet. It wouldn't make a difference anyway. FYI, the whole discussion was in a centralized discussion so, it wasn't a little club. Also, I wasn't even part of the discussion, but I respected the consensus. — YoungForever(talk) 14:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Re this edit, I don't get Netflix right now, so I can't check to see if they list the series as having three seasons, or four. But if they list it as having three, we're going to need to be vigilant about edits like these. (And, if Netflix does list 4 seasons, the article will have to be updated (with sourcing) to reflect this...) FWIW. --IJBall (contribstalk) 19:12, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

It's 4 parts, but 3 seasons. It was only renewed for the third season which later it was announced that it would be the final season. They split the third season into two parts. Netflix occasionally split 1 season into 2 parts, especially sitcoms. — YoungForever(talk) 19:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
@IJBall: Ip addresses are still trying to change it to 4 seasons via Talk page since the article is temporary semi-protected til June 28. This is just ridiculous. The series was never renewed for a fourth season. It was only renewed for a third season of 16 episodes official press release directly from Netflix Media Center that was just split into 2 parts. The ip addresses are still not getting it. — YoungForever(talk) 04:28, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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Condor revert

can you explain why you reverted https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Condor_(TV_series)&oldid=prev&diff=962987077 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandro.Tosi (talkcontribs) 05:12, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

The release dates are all unsourced for the second season. You need to provide a reliable source for the release dates.— YoungForever(talk) 05:17, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Maybe you could have just asked that, instead of reverting the work i did? source is https://thetvdb.com/series/condor/seasons/official/2 - how would report that as the source now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandro.Tosi (talkcontribs) 20:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Not a reliable source because it is a user-based website. — YoungForever(talk) 20:14, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
please point out all and every reference for Season 1 about directors, writers, episode name, release dates, etc. Not sure what you're trying to prove here, but congrats in discouraging new contributions: mission accomplished. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandro.Tosi (talkcontribs) 21:24, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Season 1 is different because it was released on the Audience network. [1] is the reliable source I just readded in for the first season. Season 2 haven't been release in the U.S. yet. It is American TV series so, we go by U.S. release date or airdate. Per MOS:TV, release date or airdates are by the original network of the country of origin. — YoungForever(talk) 21:44, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

My apologies

I did not mean to revert your message. I thought I was on another page and I don’t know how I landed at Lonnie’s talkpage. It’s why the edit summary is unrelated. I’m very sorry--BaseFree (talk) 05:09, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Conventional PCI → Peripheral Component Interconnect

Hi YoungForever. You recently closed a requested move discussion at Talk:Conventional PCI. The problem is that moving the page requires deleting Peripheral Component Interconnect first and as far as I understand, you can't do that as a non-admin. You should probably poke some friendly admin to do that for you or undo your close of the discussion. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 23:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Pichpich: Any page mover can do the technical move. However, I do not have page mover rights so, I have requested on Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests already. It doesn't need to be deleted, page movers and admins just do a pageswap. Also, any editor who is not a conflict of interest can close the requested move discussions when they have been elapsed 7 days. If you are just referring to the Talk page, I am not sure it can be deleted because it has a Talk history. I think it can be merge with the other Talk. — YoungForever(talk) 23:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Chase Stokes

Why did you delete this page? Yeah I know it failed to meet expectations but he didn't play not just Outer Banks. There's more that he played. Look at IMDb. He played other roles too. Hope it changes your mind and you could restore it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.151.27.25 (talk) 02:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I didn't deleted the article and admin deleted the article. I just moved the article to the draftspace because he failed to meet WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. He only had one significant role and the others were only minor roles. That's not enough to warrant a mainspace article yet, per WP:NACTOR. — YoungForever(talk) 03:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

The two Close Enough episodes I added were real. They were uploaded to the HBOMax website for free and was up for about two hours. Then they were taken down probably because it was a mistake. Me any many other Close Enough fans watched the two episodes, and they have been uploaded to illegal content sites. Since it was taken down there is not any official source. https://imgur.com/a/DqZonuo https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1277699274072088578

Also there is no evidence that 100% Stress Free Day is episode one, so can that be changed to episode "?" for now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThyTrippyTurtle (talkcontribs) 18:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

They are not reliable sources. Illegal content websites uploads are not official releases and they fall into WP:CRYSTAL. 100% Stress Free Day was released at the International Animation Film Festival. — YoungForever(talk) 18:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I found that the wayback machines captured the HBOMax website while the episodes were still up. https://web.archive.org/web/20200629204706/https://www.hbomax.com/coming-soon/close-enough Would this be considered a reliable source? ThyTrippyTurtle (talk) 16:50, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
They aren't the episode titles. Episode 1A and 1B aren't episode titles. Just wait for the official release. WP:NORUSH. — YoungForever(talk) 18:44, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Bettina Gilois

On 6 July 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Bettina Gilois, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:30, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Surnames on Alexa & Katie

Hello there, Recently, you had reverted my edit on the Alexa and Katie page. I had put the surnames as the surnames were mentioned throughout the TV seriesas well as cast videos and interviews on YouTube, teen magazines etc. Also that page mentions Jennifer's family is less financially fortunate than the Mendozas. A person who may not have watched the TV series and had visited the Wikipedia page for reference may have a question about who the Mendozas are when the characters' surnames are not mentioned in it. I hope you would think on this matter as I do not want to cause any conflicts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptorz12 (talkcontribs) 15:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

@Raptorz12: Per MOS:TVCAST, we go by how they are credited on the on-screen credits or common names with reliable sources. They are only credited by first names only and those are their common names which were sourced when they were cast under the casting subsection. — YoungForever(talk) 16:14, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
then why have you put Jennifer's family is less financially fortunate than the Mendozas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptorz12 (talkcontribs) 16:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
@Raptorz12: I never put Jennifer's family is less financially fortunate than the Mendozas in. It was another editor that added that in. I advised you to check the History of the edits before you accused me of something I never did. — YoungForever(talk) 16:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Shall I put the surnames? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptorz12 (talkcontribs) 17:01, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
@Raptorz12: As I stated above, no on the character names themselves because they are only credited by first names only and those are their common names which were sourced when they were cast under the casting subsection.YoungForever(talk) 17:07, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
The reason why I asked to put the surnames is because many TV Series wikipedia pages have put surnames directly from the series and not credible sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptorz12 (talkcontribs) 17:10, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Not how it works on Wikipedia TV series articles. Mentioned here and there on some episodes aren't going to cut it. Please go read MOS:TVCAST which states: All names should be referred to as credited, or by common name supported by a reliable source.YoungForever(talk) 17:21, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Even if the article mentions that, why don't surnames of characters of most Netflix series have mentioned credible sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptorz12 (talkcontribs) 17:24, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
@Raptorz12:Look, some reliable sources include surnames of characters when actors were cast and some only have first names only when actors are cast. At the end credits of each episode of a TV series, they sometimes show how they are credited and we always go by that. Wikipedia contains guidelines and policies. As I said before, go read MOS:TVCAST. — YoungForever(talk) 17:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
This is how I suggest we handle this – something like: Isabel May as Katie, Alexa's best friend, and the daughter of Jennifer Cooper... and Tiffani Thiessen as Lori, Alexa and Lucas' mother, Dave's wife, and the matriarch of the Mendoza family... YoungForever is quite correct that how we primarily list and refer to the characters should be as per their credited names. But nothing prevents us for putting addition information, like surnames, into the character summaries. So something like I have suggested is the best way to handle this situation... --IJBall (contribstalk) 17:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
@IJBall: Hi there, what do you think of using IMDb as a credible source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raptorz12 (talkcontribs) 11:11, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
@Raptorz12: Per WP:RSP, IMDb is not a reliable source. — YoungForever(talk) 16:53, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
What sites are considered credible by the way?Raptorz12 (talk) 03:34, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
@Raptorz12:Some reliable sources are TVLine, Deadline Hollywood, Variety (magazine), The Hollywood Reporter, Entertainment Weekly, Entertainment Tonight. These are some reliable sources that are frequently used on television series and film articles on Wikipedia. — YoungForever(talk) 03:48, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Jorge Rodríguez RM

Can you please fix the broken links caused by your page moves? The whole point of the RM was that '(footballer)' and '(soccer') were insufficient dabs, and they therefore cannot be redirects to specific pages...! GiantSnowman 07:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

 I think I fixed it by redirecting to the DAB page. I am sorry that I missed that. — YoungForever(talk) 07:54, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Nope, still broken - all the links at the navboxes at Jorge Rodríguez (footballer, born 1968) still point to the old page, for example... GiantSnowman 07:58, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
You need to make sure that all mainspace links here are changed to point to Jorge Rodríguez (footballer, born 1968) (or another page if appropriate), and that all mainspace links here are changed to point to Jorge Rodríguez (soccer, born 1990). GiantSnowman 08:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 Fixed for only the mainspace ones. I didn't touch the logs/bots/alerts pages as I am not sure if I can fix those. — YoungForever(talk) 08:48, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello YoungForever! Thanks for your help with the "Jorge Rodríguez" RM! Just wondering something – you changed the redirect target of "Jorge Agustín Rodríguez" from Jorge Rodríguez (footballer, born 1995) to the disambiguation page of Jorge Rodríguez#Association football. Is the name "Jorge Agustín Rodríguez" ambiguous (i.e. is there more than one Jorge Rodríguez on Wikipedia with the middle name Agustín)? Paintspot Infez (talk) 22:22, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

 FixedYoungForever(talk) 22:29, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Helstrom release date

Hi, the Hulu press page reports that all episodes will be published on 16 October 2020 and the correct episodes order... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.16.98.213 (talk) 16:13, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Wrong, all it said is October 2020, no specific date. And only 3 episode titles. You need to add the archive url. — YoungForever(talk) 16:24, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Move review for Fuel pump

An editor has asked for a Move review of Fuel pump. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. Neel.arunabh (talk) 17:28, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for responding to the questions at Talk:Fuel pump. I've been sick since last week, and then had a fall yesterday, so I've been procrastinating answering the IP's question, as it's something I was struggling to answer in a thoughtful manner. So thanks again for taking the time to respond. I do appreciate it. - BilCat (talk) 19:33, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
@BilCat: No problem. I figured I should respond to Neel.arunabh's questions as I was the closer for the WP:RM discussion. I wasn't blindly closing the discussion as not moved because the majority oppose, but I was closing it as not moved because I assessed the discussion in an unbiased manner and determined as it should not be moved. — YoungForever(talk) 20:08, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
That's fine. He had addressed his question on the matter to me in several venues, so I that's why I was thanking you for answering. I totally agree with your close, and that's not just because I supported the outcome. - BilCat (talk) 21:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
@BilCat: Another editor seemed to agree with Neel.arunabh. I honestly don't know what else to add at this point. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fuel pump (disambiguation) was closed as deleted. — YoungForever(talk) 17:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Since User:JHunterJ, an admin, closed the AfD, it's probably best to talk with him (?) about how to handle this. - BilCat (talk) 18:42, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
He/Him pronouns, and good on you for checking! The other editor's arguments didn't seem to have any relevance to the move review. If consensus has changed (or someone thinks a new argument might sway a new consensus), another move request can be made. -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:27, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

The Resident season drafts

Sorry to ping you. It's just that for the past few days I've been contemplating creating individual season articles for The Resident on Fox. The series has run for over 55 episodes, with a new season premiering in a few months and scrolling through the quiet detailed episode summaries is going to start getting tedious. Also, the main article for the series does not cover the 'Critical reception' or 'Release' part of the newer seasons. But before proceed I would really like to know the thoughts of a experienced and frequent editor like you on the matter. TheRedDomitor (talk) 16:10, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

I believe the seasons articles are unnecessary as there is already a List of episodes article. Also, there aren't going to be much production (not much information in the main article anyway) and critical reception information for the seasons articles as both Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic do not have critical reviews on seasons 2 and 3. — YoungForever(talk) 16:24, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

You were right. Requesting extended confirmed protection now. Cheers! KyleJoantalk 05:53, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@KyleJoan: I was really hoping that it would remain stable. Sadly, it didn't even last long. — YoungForever(talk) 05:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
@KyleJoan: I am glad that an admin upgraded to extended confirmed protection. Semi-protection clearly wasn't really working. — YoungForever(talk) 17:42, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Possible Vandalism

Hey, sorry to ping you...again. But a possible vandal has come to my notice. Going by the handle of MacMagnum, they have removed thousands of bytes of data from articles relating to the United States network television schedules: 2004-05 to 2017-18. No reason has been cited for the removal of data. I reverted a few of these changes on the network schedules of the past three years about 12 hours ago, but on checking again found that they were back to the task. A point to be noted is that said account was created only a mere 12 days ago and since then all edits have been of this disruptive nature. The reason I am bringing this to you is that I am not an extended confirmed user yet and also don't want to violate Wikipedia's policy of getting involved with the same user within 24 hours. I was hoping that as an uninvolved third party and experienced Wikipedian you would be so kind as to look into the matter and determine whether a vandal is truly at play or not. 150.129.60.144 (talk) 16:57, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry...got logged out for some reason. The message above is from TheRedDomitor TheRedDomitor (talk) 17:05, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@TheRedDomitor: You need to message a warning notice and when it continues past the 4th warning report to WP:AIV. — YoungForever(talk) 18:03, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

The Tony Ho citation is even worse than using IMDB. It's his resume, and that goes against citation rules. IMDB, though not great, is better than using someone's personal resume because it isn't a secondary source. I would sooner remove him on notability grounds than continue to use his resume as the citation source. Abebenjoe (talk) 02:28, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@Abebenjoe: If there isn't a reliable source, then remove him for now. — YoungForever(talk) 02:30, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Your revert of The Umbrella Academy

I have started composing a piece on what I call "announce porn". It is applicable to your revert of The Umbrella Academy (TV series). Perhaps you can comment on it? Here goes:

Do not use "announce". Yes, that is how you find out recent things in the news: Season 4 of television show so-and-so will start on date such-and-such. And then you rush to record the Great Announcement on Wikipedia. "On Nth of Nobodycaresmonth 2020 WhoeverDon'tcare announced that Season 4..."
But it produces clumsy sentence structure and puts non-notable information front and center. The thing being announced may be notable; the circumstances under it was announced are definitely not notable.
When a television series is renewed for another season, we should not write On January 14 2002 NetflixHBO announced that the series is renewed for a third season. Instead we write The series was renewed for a third season<super>[source here]</super>. The source will record the Great Day of the Glorious Announcement for those who care (and nobody does, never has, never will.)
Some announcements can be notable. Franklin D. Roosevelt did announce that a certain date will live in infamy. John F. Kennedy did announce that certain things on September 12, 1962. But unless the children around the world sing songs about The Day of the Great Announcement, and read about the Day of the Great Announcement in history books, mention of The Announcement does not belong on Wikipedia.
Is the announcement itself widely reliably reported? The speeches by Roosevelt and Kennedy are widely reported. Is the announcement by a TV or film producer widely reported? If not, the act of announcing is not notable.
Lists of announcements are Wikipedia:Recentism. "Real" articles are not lists of announcements. World War II is not a long list of dates when each event of the war was announced by someone.
Obviously "do not announce" applies equally to words such as reporting, stating, etc etc.
If there is notable information just state that information and do not bother everyone with who stated that information. That is what the source tag is for.

Any thoughts? 85.76.65.201 (talk) 16:00, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

You are incorrect, nowhere in Wikipedia said "Do not use announced or reported". It was reported because it was reported in April 2019, it is not current. You also remove the month and year which is not appropriate as you implies it is current. — YoungForever(talk) 16:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
You are correct, nowhere in Wikipedia said "Do not use announced or reported" (unless we interpret Wikipedia:Notability and WP:RS saying that the Event of The Great Announcement should be notable and reliably sourced by third parties). I am asking should that be said? Is that a good thing that the dates when a TV show was announced to be renewed are a main point of sentence structure? When the date of the announcement is not reported by third sources (as per WP:N they should to be notable information)? World War II is not a long list of dates when events were announced; yet recent articles have a lot more announcing. Think about it: which is important: the non-notable event of announcing, or the notable fact that was announced. The announcement is non-notable. I am really interested in how other Wikipedians might think about this. Not about this particular article, but in general. Is announce porn the right way to go? 85.76.65.201 (talk) 16:19, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
In general, a lot of television series articles like that, it is a common practice. — YoungForever(talk) 16:44, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Do you think it is a good practice or better eradicated? Does "common practice" equal "good practice"? Happy Days is not a long list of announcements of season renewals. Is Wikipedia:Recentism a good thing or a bad thing? 85.76.65.201 (talk) 16:50, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
For season renewals, on the lead section, we usually only include series premiere and the most recent season renewal. The rest of of the season renewals would be only on the body (Development subsection or Release section). I honestly do not believe it is recentism in this case at all. — YoungForever(talk) 16:57, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
So in this particular case, is it important that Netflix announced the viewership on a particular date? Is the date of the announcement notable, important, and lede-worthy information? We do not document the viewership; we need the date of the announcement? Is the date of renewal notable and lede-worthy? Are these important facts that belong in the lede of this article? If someone cares about the Date of the Great Announcement, does that belong in an encyclopedia?
Still I am exploring the idea of why some want announce porn. It is puzzling to me. 85.76.65.201 (talk) 17:11, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

G/O Media sites

Hi, YoungForever. Instead of conversing via edit summary, this seems more logical. I have always thought that Gizmodo is a reliable source, io9 covers comics as well as entertainment news, as does The A.V. Club. io9 is a section of Gizmodo, the same way "TV Club" is a section (blog?) of A.V. Club. I don't really see the difference. Gizmodo and A.V. Club both have reliable independent reporting, and the relevant section of the article I cited at Lovecraft Country was not really a blog post but io9's republication of a WarnerMedia press release, which was instead replaced by TheFutonCritic's own republication of that same press release (thus in my view also proving io9's reliability). -- Wikipedical (talk) 21:02, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

@Wikipedical: I honestly believe it is not the same thing. The io9 source that you added also said spoilers at the top, in it the writers also said To me, my spoilers!. So, there is that. — YoungForever(talk) 21:42, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Agree to disagree. Everything they reported in that news roundup was verifiable citing other primary sources or reporting. The lighthearted "Morning Spoilers" tag that quite obviously means 'morning news roundup' doesn't bother me. -- Wikipedical (talk) 22:13, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

I see that you have closed the discussion for the above page, have you completed the move?   Kadzi  (talk) 22:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@Dr. Kadzi: It is done, I have requested on WP:RMT and admin Anthony Appleyard moved it. — YoungForever(talk) 22:27, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi YoungForever, I updated the image in the infobox of the page you created to a high-quality Netflix poster. Just wanted to let you know and see if you approve. Hidden Hills Editor (talk) 17:07, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@Hidden Hills Editor: It is more appropriate and a common practice to use a screenshot of a title card or a logo for the main TV series article, especially when the TV series has more than 1 season. — YoungForever(talk) 18:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Ahh I see -- noted, thank you for the info! Hidden Hills Editor (talk) 13:42, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your great edit.

Thank you for deleting the propaganda opinion by the IP user who vandalised the Gavin Newsom article. I recommend you file to ban that IP to prevent him/her from making more compromising edits.Lindjosh (talk) 00:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@Lindjosh: I can't report an WP:AIV until past the 4th warning. — YoungForever(talk) 00:49, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
I see, I completely forgot about that. Then I recommend you keep an eye on that IP address. Let me know of any more problems with it, and I help you out if you need it. Thank you.Lindjosh (talk) 00:58, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I accidentally said TVTime instead of TVLine. Sorry about that! Cinemacriterion (talk) 20:40, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Cinemacriterion: TVLine is a reliable source. TVTime is not a reliable source as it is an userbased website. I reverted myself, it is clearly just a misunderstanding. — YoungForever(talk) 20:42, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
All good! No worries. Cinemacriterion (talk) 20:43, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Uglies movie

Hi YoungForever! I was wondering if you’d like to help me start an article for the movie adaptation of Uglies. The movie will both star and be executive produced by Joey King. There is a Twitter post and an article on Seventeen’s website that mentions this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazychickennthang (talkcontribs) 20:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story

Hello, sorry to bother you! Can you please create a page por the new Ryan Murphy show “ Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story” on wikipedia?

You can find references here: [1] Disneylodewn (talk) 20:53, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

@Disneylodewn: You should start a Draft for now because it is definitely not enough to warrant an article yet as filming is yet to begin and casting is still very limited. — YoungForever(talk) 23:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Netflix Greenlights 'Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story' Limited Series From Ryan Murphy & Ian Brennan; Richard Jenkins Co-Stars, Carl Franklin & Janet Mock EP". Retrieved October 4, 2020.

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As a frequent contributor to the Netflix original ended series navbox template I am informing you of a split proposal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terasail (talkcontribs) 11:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

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As a frequent contributor to the Netflix original ended series navbox template I am informing you of a split proposal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terasail (talkcontribs) 11:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Gender biased attitude and antiMen practices of the horrible feminazi pretending to support Gender-Equality

Instead of reading the story of the Lovecraft series, where it clearly mentions that story is of, central to and revolves around a Man, you still have wrongly put and tried to maintain the female actor's name on the top of the Cast list and at every stage of actor role's importance you have put Actor's(Man) name below the female actor's name. Stop and relent this menacingly demeaning and defaming activity at once before you get reported and blocked from Wikipedia permanently... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skylark8973 (talkcontribs) 18:31, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

@Skylark8973: Per MOS:TVCAST, we go by according to broadcasting credits starting for the pilot episode. Her name was the first starting from the pilot episode. We do not go by personal preference. You were reverted by two different editors, once by me and the second time by Drovethrughosts. — YoungForever(talk) 19:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Judging by Skylark8973 edits, they constantly move female actors below male actor names, despite credit order. It's clear this user has an issue with women and is using Wikipedia as an outlet for their political opinions. The fact that they referred to you as "antiman" and a "feminazi" and threatened to have you "blocked from Wikipedia permanently" for following basic Wikipedia guidelines is harassment and easily counts as a personal attack. I highly suggest reporting this WP:NOTHERE (among other problematic things) user for this behavior. Drovethrughosts (talk) 19:49, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
As you already saw, I had done the edit based on the movie and series content and story only not by my personal/political opinions. If you have any issues with that you can always write in my talk page and we can discuss and try to keep the discussions healthy. But some "judgemental" users like @Drovethrughosts are waiting to find any false excuses and make wrong, unprofessional accusations by fake-claiming that so and so user has "issues with women" and "other problematic things" when they are already suffering from some highly problematic disorders(harboring political agendas to systematically harass the said User by inflaming other user, the said user has any dispute with) which is why they accuse and suggest for any user to be blocked just because they did some edits purely based on content or story. If users like @Drovethrughosts has issues they can seek help, but this(by inflaming other user to block someone who they have dispute with which can be resolved by discussions) is not the right way of dealing with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skylark8973 (talkcontribs) 21:45, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
You reorderd the cast list on Lovecraft Country (TV series) to move a male actor above a female actor, which does not match the billing order. There's even a note in the edit box stating "Main cast order is according to original broadcasting credits". YoungForever reverted you and explained it, yet you made the same edit again where you then moved two female actors down, so male actors appeared first. You then, just after being reverted once based on actual MOS:TV guidelines (actors are listed by the order of how they billed), went on a rant to YoungForever about them being "antimen" and a "feminazi", and claimed that their edits are "menacingly demeaning and defaming". Are you aware of how absurd this is? They reverted you because your edits are wrong because they go against MOS:TV guidelines about how actors are listed. You also have dozens of edits where you place male actors above female actors without any explanation. It's funny how you state "but this(by inflaming other user to block someone" when your very first interaction with YoungForever, you threatened to "get [them] reported and blocked from Wikipedia permanently" despite their edit being based on Wiki guidelines. Talk about calling the kettle black. This will be my last post here because I don't want to muck up YoungForever's talk page with this. I'll let them deal with anything further. Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:08, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
@Drovethrughosts: This disruptive editor has been blocked indefinitely by an admin after I reported them to WP:ANI. — YoungForever(talk) 00:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Good, great to hear! Happy editing, YoungForever! Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:09, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I'd appreciate you keeping an extra eye on this article, as we clearly have an IP editor that will not WP:DROPTHESTICK. Thanks. --IJBall (contribstalk) 19:42, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

@IJBall: I will revert the next time an IP restore the same disruptive editing on the article. — YoungForever(talk) 19:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Abigail Cowen

Hello, sorry to bother you again! Can you create a page por the actress Abigail Cowen on wikipedia please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disneylodewn (talkcontribs) 03:48, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Halston (limited series)

Hello, sorry to bother you again! Can you create a page por the new Ryan Murphy show “Halston” on wikipedia please??

Informations here: [1][2] Disneylodewn (talk) 23:13, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@Disneylodewn: You should start a Draft for now because it is definitely not enough to warrant an article yet as filming is yet to begin and casting is still very limited. — YoungForever(talk) 04:33, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Baseless accusations, the reporter (a new editor) just end up getting the article semi-protected as a result. They refused to participate in the discussion even when the discussion is open for discussion. — YoungForever(talk) 17:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Hey there. Sorry. No citation yet. I just thought I’d add it. I was cast as Friedman earlier this week. But I can wait for Deadline or Variety or whatever. Sorry. Don’t know the protocol:-). Alas.... Have a great night.

Will Wchase2 (talk) 01:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@Wchase2: Regardless, casting of yet to premiere series or miniseries need to be reliably sourced. Also, if you are Will Chase, you can't add it yourself because it is considered to be WP:COI. However, you can request an WP:EDITREQ. — YoungForever(talk) 01:59, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Careful

Edits such as this screw up all the "2010s" type categories.... (and so breach WP:REDNOT) Le Deluge (talk) 17:37, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

@Le Deluge: Thank you for letting me know. I wasn't aware of that. — YoungForever(talk) 18:22, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

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Did not know about the colors. I am so sorry .CartoonnewsCP (talk) 23:38, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@CartoonnewsCP: FYI, whenever someone has this this on their edit summary, they are using a script tool to meet the color compliance to avoid color accessibility issues and changing it back to a non-color compliance is considered to be disruptive editing. — YoungForever(talk) 23:53, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Again. Will keep that in mind. Apologies. CartoonnewsCP (talk) 23:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Adjusting indents

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Adjusting indents on a talk page does not constitute editng another editor's post. You might want to try assuming good faith, particularly given the amibguity of the original version of your post, and lighten up a bit. You edit summary was rather OTT. ----Dr.Margi 04:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@Drmargi: The original version of my post was definitely not ambiguous, please see the edit summary on here which clearly stated: Replying to DarkGlow (using reply-link). That is clearly not ambiguous at all. If I was replying to your comment, the edit summary would say "Replying to Drmargi (using reply-link)" fyi. But, it clearly didn't because I clearly wasn't replying to your comment. — YoungForever(talk) 04:58, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes, but you added that after I adjusted your indents. Regardless, that's an evasion from the main point of my post. ----Dr.Margi 06:02, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
@Drmargi: That's incorrect, "Replying to DarkGlow (using reply-link)" was on the edit summary of my original post reply, NOT after your adjustment of the indentations. It is not my fault that you refused to acknowledge that I was clearly NOT replying to your comment as it even stated on my original post reply edit summary. If you actually read the edit summary in the first place, we wouldn't be having this ridiculous discussion. My indentation wasn't wrong like you clearly assumed it was. I am done here. — YoungForever(talk) 06:38, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
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Sorry about forgetting the source. It was on foxflash before Futon when I added it. CartoonnewsCP (talk) 23:09, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I am also sorry for forgetting the source. I am new to wikipedia editing, and i didn't know that you could add a section. Anthony hello123 23:19, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Show's first season

I just wanted to notify you that I have just reverted your edit on Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous because a show's first season doesn't need a "no. overall" and "no. in season" parameter. That is just repetitive. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 23:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Not how television articles work. I advised you take look at many good articles that have multiple seasons. Here are some examples: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (season 1), Better Call Saul (season 1), American Horror Story: Murder House, Daredevil (season 1), Hawaii Five-0 (2010 TV series, season 1), and plenty more. The first seasons still have the whole season columns. They are there so that some people don't get confused when they line up the columns. In addition, it is common practice to include both "no. overall" and "no. in season" parameters when there are multiple seasons including first seasons. You are the only editor to be purposely removing the "no. in season" parameter for the first seasons just because you don't like it. The only first seasons without the season parameter are TV series with really just one seasons. — YoungForever(talk) 05:20, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I agree it's common practice to have both, MacGyver (2016 TV series, season 1) and Magnum P.I. (2018 TV series, season 1) are also good articles which do this, the latter of which you reviewed for GA. TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:23, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

What does my edit have to do with 'personal preference"? I didn't add or remove anyone, and didn't change anything to do with Mr. Hart's listing. I explained my edit when I did it, but I'll explain again that I just changed the formatting to match what you will find on any other TV series cast section.MarvelousMusician397 (talk) 20:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit: It appears we may have been editing at the same time and that somehow my edit undid your edit of Mr Hart's credit — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarvelousMusician397 (talkcontribs) 20:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

@MarvelousMusician397: You have reordered the main cast order to your personal preference. Before your edit, the main cast order was order according to credits, per MOS:TVCAST, we go by according to credits. MOS:TVCAST states The cast listing should be ordered according to the original broadcast credits, with new cast members being added to the end of the list.YoungForever(talk) 20:34, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Shares

Hello, I would like to apologize for how I was incorrect about averaging Showbuzz Daily male and female 18–49 shares in a post on your talk page several months ago. However, given that they now report them to a tenth, I believe rounding errors are virtually impossible. For example, previously a 2 male share and a 3 female share could have been not a 3 overall, but a 2 because the shares could have been a 1.5 and a 2.5, which rounds to 2—not 3. Would you still consider it incorrect to do so now that shares are to a tenth? Just wondering your opinion :) Heartfox (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@Heartfox: I still do not think we should add the share as Showbuzz Daily still do not include the total shares of 18–49. It is still WP:SYNTH. We do not know how they calculate the total shares. — YoungForever(talk) 23:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
Good work with getting a draft for "Subject to change" out the door. You are fast. :) Starzoner (talk) 20:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the recent edit

Hello. Did you see the summary? They had the titles until last week when they were changed. I just noticed that today. These were added way before and were hidden until an airdate was given. CartoonnewsCP (talk) 02:35, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Again, you are repeatedly adding WP:SYNTH. WGA do not include the episode titles, you can't simply assumed that a certain episode would match with the certain writer(s). — YoungForever(talk) 02:46, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't think you understood what I was trying to say but it's okay, I'm done here. Goodbye. CartoonnewsCP (talk) 02:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Luna Gevitz

Hi, I believe you previously adjusted Luna's entry from Gevitz to Gewitz.

Gevitz is her passport name and the one that she now wants to use for football. It would be great if you could fix the title of the page (as I can't adjust in the "edit" function. Proof of the name is in her official national team entry: https://www.dbu.dk/landshold/landsholdsdatabasen/PlayerInfo/6788

The wiki page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_Gewitz

Thanks, Ashley (her agent) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.135.4 (talk) 11:58, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

I closed the discussion based on consensus that was supported by reliable sources. I cannot fix it as I was just the closer. You are going to have to request someone to request a page move as you are WP:CIO. — YoungForever(talk) 04:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I don't disagree with your historic perspective. However, this has now changed (as a conscious decision) to reflect the player's wishes (and official documented name). Here are three current sources that reflect the correct spelling:
1) her current team page: https://bkhacken.se/spelare/luna-norgaard-gevitz
2) her current national team page: https://www.dbu.dk/landshold/landsholdsdatabasen/PlayerInfo/6788
3) her Soccerway (official football statistics) page: https://uk.women.soccerway.com/players/luna-gevitz/174687/
Bearing in mind that 2) and 3) are already listed as sources on her Wikipedia page, it would be great to see this updated.
There is no CIO in this request - it is just to reflect usage of public sources.
Kind regards, Ashley — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.135.4 (talk) 22:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
And here are two media articles for good measure: https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/fotboll/a/1nbvOl/guide-algarve-cup-sverigedanmark and https://www.gp.se/sport/fotboll/sportl%C3%B6rdag-p%C3%A5-gp-se-h%C3%A4cken-%C3%B6is-bl%C3%A5vitt-och-gais-1.42135822
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.135.4 (talk) 22:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Since you are her agent, it is definitely WP:CIO. As I stated before, you need to ask someone else do it for you. Please see WP:EDITREQ. — YoungForever(talk) 22:44, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Subject To Change (a draft article created by you)

Can I add information to the article from a reliable source? - Anthony hello123 (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

@Anthony hello123: Anyone can edit it as long as the person sourced the additional information with a reliable source. — YoungForever(talk) 16:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

I see several of you are working on the draft. I found This source which mostly quotes Deadline, which seems to be a source for the draft. I'm not in the mood to try to figure out how to reword so I won't just be quoting, so i thought I'd let others decide how much should be quoted and how the rest of it should be reworded so it won't be plagiarism.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:47, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Are you referring to the "Premise"? I think another editor got to it already.— YoungForever(talk) 21:59, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
They did, and it looks like the source's wording was copied exactly, which is a no-no.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:24, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

This is awarded to you for reverting vandalism by others. Keep up the good work. -- ThanosYourGod (talk) 06:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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Also User talk:Geraldo Perez#Simonrankin. Amaury • 06:52, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

April 2021 - Barnstar

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Teryl Rothery's character in Virgin River

I've watched every episode she was credited in and the credits do not credit/mention characters' names, only Guest Starring and the cast members names. So I do not know what you are talking about. If you are going by IMDb, crediting only as Muriel, that's because no one has bothered to change it. --ACase0000 (talk) 00:38, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Per MOS:TVCAST, we go by according to credits. Mentioned of surnames here and there one few episodes are not going to cut it. Muriel is her common name. — YoungForever(talk) 00:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Again, the episode credits do not mention characters' first or last names, only the cast members names. --ACase0000 (talk) 00:46, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
You are missing the point here. Muriel is her common name. Mentioned of her surname on few episodes are not going to cut it. — YoungForever(talk) 00:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

IABot

Hi there,

Just a heads up that I mentioned you over here regarding use of IABot. I wasn't going to ping you because I didn't want to single you out when it's something lots of people use, but I figure it's not fair to link to your diff without a ping. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:33, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

If i were to update information on a page on when an event is happening, and there is currently an access-date right there, for example: the access date is "March 7, 2021" and i happen to update the information on April 9, 2021, should i change the access date to April 9, or keep it as March 7? It seems it is a recurring mistake of mine that you have addressed numerous times while editing. Anthony hello123 (talk) 04:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

@Anthony hello123: access-date is the the date you view the url so, it should be updated. — YoungForever(talk) 04:20, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Netflix identified it as two parts, not two seasons. I didn't mean any harm though, and I apologize. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.175.208 (talk) 15:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

FYI, it is two seasons as it is supported by several reliable sources. Also, sometimes parts are equal to seasons and sometimes they are not for Netflix series. — YoungForever(talk) 15:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)