Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

• To list a technical request: the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:

  {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=reason for move}}

  This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
• If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
• If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

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Technical requests

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Uncontroversial technical requests

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• Helme (disambiguation) → Helme (move · discuss) – No primary topic, the river has 31 views but the Estonia one has 59, the West Yorkshire one has 24, Chris Helme has 1,092 and Helme Heine has 101. Move the river to Helme (Germany). Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
• Thematic House → Cosmic House (currently a redirect back to Thematic House) (move · discuss) – This house, which is a Grade 1 listed house and museum since 2018, changed its name to Cosmic House at the same time. However, the old name is the page title while the new name is a redirect to it. It should, of course, be the other way around. Even the listing at Historic England uses the new name. Thomas Blomberg (talk) 15:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

If your request involves reverting a move, place it here.

Contested technical requests

Do not insert new requests in this section. Only move requests here if the requested move has been contested.

• Cajeput oil → Cajuput oil (currently a redirect back to Cajeput oil) (move · discuss) – Article was moved from Cajuput to Cajeput in 2014: "Sphilbrick moved page Cajuput oil to Cajeput oil over redirect: predominant spelling". However Wiktionary has "cajuput" as the main listing and "cajeput" as an alternative form. Matt Gies (talk) 17:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

  This might benefit from an RM because it was moved, and there's another reply in the talk page mentioning the title being incorrect. Pinging @Sphilbrick as they're mentioned here. All this occurred many years ago though so things may have changed. ASUKITE 14:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  I have no strong opinion. I trust you won't surprise anyone that I have no recollection of such a minor issue from a decade ago. That said, I try to avoid rash edits, which means it is likely that I did a search for spellings. Had it been a close call, I would've either done nothing or opened a discussion and would have made the edit without further discussion only if it was fairly clear-cut. I don't consider Wiktionary a reliable source but have no recollection what it said at the time. I've also observed, even in my lifetime, changes in the English language including spelling over time, so I can't discount the possibility that my action was right at the time but no longer correct. I also can't discount the possibility that on such a minor issue my search was too casual. I trust someone will do some research and I'm virtually certain I will be fine with whatever is concluded. (Thanks for the ping.) S Philbrick(Talk) 17:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  I agree that this would need a move request. Google Trends shows that the "u" spelling has indeed gotten more popular worldwide since Sphilbrick moved it in 2014, but it also seems quite close and regional. A majority of the interest comes from Indonesia, Singapore, and Australia, with the "u" spelling being much more popular in Indonesia and the other regions pretty evenly split. In the Western world, the "e" spelling is more common in North America whereas Europe is fairly divided, but overall interest is very low to begin with. Ngrams show that "e" used to be by far the most common spelling, and while "u" got slightly more popular in the late '60s and late '90s, "e" has maintained a slight edge in the "All English" corpus, with "u" being more popular in the British English corpus up until 2012 or so. --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 18:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  @Matt Gies: This move is potentially controversial, so it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 06:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks to all who've chimed in. I don't particularly care which way this decision goes; I was trying to casually move it based on the article leading with the "u" spelling but being located at the "e" spelling and then finding Wiktionary's hierarchy, hit a technical roadblock, and was led here for further assistance. If anybody cares to pick up the baton from here, that's fine with me; I'm actually on the same page as @Sphilbrick in that I'm also virtually certain at this point that I'll be fine with whatever is concluded. Matt Gies (talk) 23:29, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

  I view this as controversial, only because the data, which seemed reasonably clearcut in 2014, isn't so currently, and one could reach different conclusions depending on the location. I support a requested move discussion. My only contribution will be to suggest that unless the answer is clear cut for a move (which it doesn't appear to be at the moment), the status quo may be the best option. But I have little experience in this type of discussion so my view should carry little weight. S Philbrick(Talk) 00:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

• List of lord high admirals of Scotland → Lord High Admiral of Scotland (currently a redirect back to List of lord high admirals of Scotland) (move · discuss) – it should be reverted to Lord High Admiral because it would look better and also it would keep in line with its successor office. 86.131.197.130 (talk) 22:59, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Has been stable since 2016 as a variation of current title. – robertsky (talk) 05:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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