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I never intended to make a legal threat and if it is perceived as such I retract it. I apologize and affirm that it will not happen again. I have been blocked now for four days. Please unblock my page and allow me to continue to edit. I have been editing for nine years without complaint. I only wanted to discuss and improve Wikipedia's coverage of the topic othe page that formerly was my biography. In fact, there is no copyright issue on the page. I own the copyright on the image

Headshot of James D. Zirin

and released all my rights in perpetuity to Wikipedia.You said I was infringing the copyright of the reference to me on http://www.jamesgoodale.net/abouttv/20092010tvlist.html. I did not post this reference, and I am happy to delete it in any event.You said I was infringing a reference to the book, Supremely Partisan as to which I am the copyright owner.(Registration Number / Date: TXu001977609 / 2015-08-20). I did not understand the basis for this, and only wanted to bring the situation to your attention. Thank you for your consideration. Jim Zirin (talk) 12:41, 30 September 2017 (UTC)September 30, 2017[reply]


Image copyright problem with Image:Updated Bio of December 10, 2007.pdf[edit]

Image Copyright problem
Image Copyright problem

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Sock-puppet[edit]

Sock-puppet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.158.53 (talk) 11:12, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Updated Bio of December 18, 2007 Page 2.jpg listed for discussion[edit]

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A belated welcome![edit]

Sorry for the belated welcome, but the cookies are still warm!

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Again, welcome! Mr. MacTidy (talk) 21:44, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

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Jziriin To add to this, you should not be editing the article about yourself and instead request changes on the talk page. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 23:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on File:Jim Zirin.jpeg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the file appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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September 2017[edit]

Information icon Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to James D. Zirin, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Mr. MacTidy (talk) 18:27, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to James D. Zirin, without resolving the problem that the template refers to. This may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing. Mr. MacTidy (talk) 18:29, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove the maintenance templates from Wikipedia articles without resolving the problem that the template refers to, as you did at James D. Zirin. Mr. MacTidy (talk) 20:07, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

File:James D zirin.jpg listed for discussion[edit]

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A tag has been placed on James D. Zirin requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.jamesgoodale.net/cohostjzirin.html. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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A tag has been placed on James D. Zirin requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.amazon.com/James-D.-Zirin/e/B00K3NNPDS. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Mr. MacTidy (talk) 10:44, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

September 2017[edit]

Stop icon
You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:45, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon Your recent edits to Talk:James D. Zirin could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. Mr. MacTidy (talk) 10:45, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the above, after having reviewed what you've been doing, the material you've been posting has been heavily promotional. Wikipedia does not permit promotional material, and strongly discourages writing about something one has a conflict of interest with, including oneself. If you would like to promote yourself, there are many sites which do permit such material. You should consider using one of them instead. Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Jzirin (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsabuse filter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


UTRS appeal #19336 was submitted on Sep 26, 2017 11:15:40. This review is now closed.


--UTRSBot (talk) 11:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I did not revoke your talk page access. That is only done when it is abused following a block. If you want to appeal, the instructions for doing so are in the block notice on this page. Seraphimblade Talk to me 15:02, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Jzirin (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsabuse filter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


UTRS appeal #19348 was submitted on Sep 26, 2017 21:03:24. This review is now closed.


--UTRSBot (talk) 21:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC) [reply]

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Jzirin (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsabuse filter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


UTRS appeal #19368 was submitted on Sep 28, 2017 17:35:52. This review is now closed.


--UTRSBot (talk) 17:35, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocked[edit]

As you've retracted/clarified the situation on the legal threat matter, and that was the reason for your block, I've unblocked you. However, as noted above, you'd also been engaged in promotional editing. I'll give the benefit of the doubt and presume you may not have known what was expected in regards to that. If you're editing about yourself, or something else you have a conflict of interest in (relative, employer/employee, a company you have a stake in promoting, etc.), it's generally expected that rather than directly making edits or creating articles, you'd suggest them and have editors without a COI review the material first. If you have any questions about how to go about that, you're certainly welcome to ask me. Seraphimblade Talk to me 15:14, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: James D. Zirin (October 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chrissymad was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: James D. Zirin (November 9)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work. ~Kvng (talk) 20:24, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: James D. Zirin (November 11)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Sulfurboy (talk) 02:09, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: James D. Zirin (November 13)[edit]

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Sulfurboy (talk) 06:51, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: James D. Zirin (January 9)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chetsford was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Chetsford (talk) 09:43, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, you have a fast and loose style of referencing. On further inspection some of these are sourced to nyc.gov which I'll take to be WP:RS. However, I can't approve this as it still lacks notability. As I see it, the points of notability come down to:
  • Book as bestseller: There are so many bestseller lists that this, of itself, is not sufficient, per WP:AUTHOR. If this were a New York Times bestseller that would be a different story. In the absence of a more specific source, however, I can't assume it is.
  • Book as award recipient: The Kirkus Star does not meet the criteria of a "major literary award" listed under WP:BOOKCRIT. A Booker Prize, Nobel Prize, etc., would, but more than 100 books get Kirkus Stars annually so this is probably correctly classified as a "minor literary award."
  • Conversations with Jim Zirin: According to the only source offered, it is cablecast in NYC. Having a local TV show is not, by itself, a presumption of notability. If the TV show is the subject of widespread media coverage then the host could be notable, but that is not established in the draft.
  • Author of 100 op-eds: This is unsourced.
  • Who's Who: This is explicitly rejected as a symbol of notability in WP:BIO as it accepts self-nominations.
Aside from the core issue of a lack of notability, there is the other issue that this article does not have references, other than the nyc.gov link, that give any biographical detail of the subject of the article. They merely prove he is a living person. Proving someone is a living human is not sufficient to establish that person's notability. Ideal additions to this article would be things like: a profile story in a major newspaper, a tribute article in a scholarly journal, a biography of the subject published by a reputable publishing house, etc. Vicki Been is an ideal model article of an American attorney who might not be widely known but can establish a track record of consistent and regular coverage - of an in-depth and biographical nature - in RS which establish her notability.
Another issue is that there are external links in the body of the article in violation of WP:EXT.
Yet another issue is that there are no sources to prove "He is married to Marlene Hess, daughter of American businessman Leon Hess.". Marlene Hess is covered by WP:BLP (even if she may not be the subject of this article) and we can't publish a claim she is married to James D. Zirin without reliable sources. This is doubly important as the phrasing of the sentence establishes Marlene Hess' identity exactly (the daughter of Leon Hess), as opposed to any random person named Marlene Hess.
A short summary of the problems with this article might quote from a review The Economist penned of one of Zirin's books - that is, the claims in it are "asserted rather than demonstrated."' [1]
Chetsford (talk) 10:16, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: James D. Zirin has been accepted[edit]

James D. Zirin, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Lacypaperclip (talk) 20:40, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of James D. Zirin for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article James D. Zirin is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Best selling books[edit]

Hi Jair in,

I was wondering if you could tell me which best seller lists were your books listed on? If you give me some information on it, I will try to find a source we can add to the article about you. I know you are not allowed to directly edit the article, but if you list any information here, I will evaluate it and add it to the article if I deem its inclusion is warranted. Thank you. Bythebooklibrary (talk) 21:01, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shortly after their release, \Amazon listed both of my books as bestsellers in their categories. If you are able to hop back over Amazon listings for The Mother Court and Supremely Partisan you will find the listings.Thanks for your interest. Jim Zirin (talk) 21:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I will find those and put back best selling with a citation back in. Bythebooklibrary (talk) 00:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Autobiography and conflict of interest[edit]

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Nomination of The Mother Court for deletion or merging[edit]

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Nomination of Supremely Partisan for deletion or merging[edit]

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