User talk:David notMD/Archive 5

Vandalism vs good faith edits

@David notMD Hi, I had requested for rollback permissions and you said this [1]. I want to rectify my mistakes. Could you please tell me where I could not distinguish between vandalism and good faith edits. And also could you please explain me how I can improve that? Thanks in advance. Regards Itcouldbepossible (talk) 02:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Riboflavin DYK?

Hi David and congratulations on doing most of the heavy lifting to get riboflavin to GA status.

Do you usually propose a DYK when you take articles to that point? I like to do them with my (few) new articles and since science is underrepresented at DYK, I think it would be a good idea here. As to suggestions for the hook, maybe something about it being one cause of the yellow color of urine would attract attention? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:08, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Michael D. Turnbull I have done DYKs for most of my GAs (see my Talk page for list), and coincidently was thinking that urine color change wold draw views. I will keep you posted on progress. David notMD (talk) 15:35, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Myles Moylan

Thank you for replying to me. I don't have an obituary but I previously submitted a piece that was published in the Tuam Herald newspaper on July 22nd, 1876 to congratulate Tuam man, Major Myles Moylan, on his 'providential escape' at the Battle of the Little Bighorn less than a month previously. His brother and nephews who were living in Tuam at the time were mentioned by name. It wasn't acceptable as proof that Myles was from Tuam. The Tuam Herald piece is attached to Myles's brother John on Myles's Findagrave page <Findagrave ></https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169515151/john-moylan>. BuffyO'B (talk) 22:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Riboflavin

The article Riboflavin you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Riboflavin for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RoySmith -- RoySmith (talk) 22:01, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Riboflavin

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Riboflavin you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mertbiol -- Mertbiol (talk) 18:20, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Help me add coi tag for AJDaGuru

You said on teahouse that I have connection to AJDaGuru I am his manager and I'm not getting paid to edit his page but I do have a conflict of interest so can you help me add that on my user page I tried several times but to no avail.Godsentme1 (talk) 21:03, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Done David notMD (talk) 21:22, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

about wikipedia page question

So my wikipedia page got deleted. I'm confused. I copied it to be just like my writer friend's page and did the same formatting and worded it along the same lines. She showcases her work/books/movies. I did the same thing with published article links to various magazines etc. Do I have to get someone else to write my page for me? I guess that's my question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diannaippolito (talk • contribs) 19:32, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Diannaippolito: First, you composed in the wrong place. Drafts get created as drafts (seeWP:YFA), not on User pages, and are then submitted to Articles for Creation (AfC) for review. Second, WP:BLP requires that all fact statements be properly referenced. Third - other stuff exists. Among the six million plus articles in English Wikipedia, tens of thousands merit deletion. Autobiography is frowned upon but not forbidden. See WP:AUTO. You can attempt to write about yourself, but all information must cite reliable source references. It's truth plus verification. Listing your published stuff is useful, but in Wikipedialand, DOES NOT confirm notability. What is essential is to have published articles to cite that are about you. In Wikipedialand it is even possible for a book to be article worthy but not the author. Hope this all helps. David notMD (talk) 21:00, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Holiday greetings (2021)

David,
I sincerely hope your holiday season goes well this year especially with what we went through last year. I'm optimistic that 2022 will be a better year for all of us: both in real life and on Wikipedia. Wishing you the best from, Interstellarity (talk) 19:04, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Riboflavin

On 29 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Riboflavin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that consuming the vitamin riboflavin in large amounts will cause urine to have a bright yellow color? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Riboflavin. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Riboflavin), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Saulo Oliveira S.

The article Saulo Oliveira S. must not be deleted as long as some wiki editors are confusing the email name of a fan (prince contact) with a possible member of the biographer's team, which is not true. There is no conflict of interest and the page is not autobiographical. About the page is orphaned, improvements will be made in the next few hours to adjust the link. It is intended to improve the page by adding even more reliable sources. Therefore the page will be improved and should not be deleted.

Please remove the page from the delete possibility. The work to build an article is arduous and this has been a personal journey of writing and learning, for someone with no connection to the artist, and it is being improved every day. Thanks for the understanding of everyone in the community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princeofrockcontact (talk • contribs) 14:19, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Princeofrockcontact Once nominated at AfD the process must go forward. After 7-10 days an Administrator will review all the comments and reach a decision. See Help:My article got nominated for deletion!. You can add one Keep comment at the AfD, but the best path to saving the article is adding better references first, and then stating that in your AfD comment. While at AfC the draft was Declined several times because the references remained weak. Moving it to mainspace did not correct that problem. This may be an instance of WP:TOOSOON, in that Saulo has not been written about at length because his music output to date is modest. Lastly, "Prince of Rock contact" is an unusual User name choice for a person who professes to have no connection to the artist. You were asked to either confirm or deny a conflict of interest on your Talk page. David notMD (talk) 14:39, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

thatcher Shultz

thank so much David I will try my best to fix the ref format and also I know thatcher personally I work for one of his business and he asked me to help him create a wiki non paid — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deivilooney (talk • contribs) 19:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

thatcher Shultz

understood how do I do I edit my draft where do I go to edit also do u have a business number or email ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deivilooney (talk • contribs) 20:31, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Deivilooney As long as it is a draft, you are free to edit it directly. Only after it becomes an article are you supposed to stop doing that. I only communicate through Wikipedia Talk. P.S. Remeber to 'sign' your Talk comments by ending with typing four of ~. David notMD (talk) 20:34, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:katherine hoover

Thank you, for explaining my mistake on the interview. They pointed me to the official webpage to see this material. It was on her bio webpage before I emailed the family. I'll change the source to the webpage.

Thankyou, AjAirFlex (talk) 16:44, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Katherine Hoover

Hello David,

The University of Rochester's Eastman School of Music Sibley Music Library has asked to be Katherine's archives. Much of Katherine's Career predates the internet such that print copies are only available in obscure archives at this point. Still there are 4 or 5 dissertations written about Katherine's works that are available electronically from those Universitys. Is it true that dissertations and theses are generally in the public domain?

Regarding: A woman's voice : the clarinet concerti of Musgrave, Hoover, and Gotkovsky Author: Nancy King Sanders:

• It is documented by OCLC
• It has been published as a google book

You deleted an subjective statement that has been printed in several dissertations or thesis and published from interviews. The thesis documents the passive statement.

What am I doing wrong? AjAirFlex (talk) 05:18, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Creation of Wikipedia page

Hi @David notMD! Thank you for your help. As you can probably see, I am really working hard on trying to figure out the next step about being part of the Wikipedia community which is getting a page approved. So can I not use an individual's website or company's site for secondary information? I asked this in the tearoom and I thought I used it correctly in this way. I can delete all the information pertaining to him in this way, as there are enough other notable sources to carry the page. I am just wondering when it's appropriate to reference an individual's personal website or company page as secondary information because I see this done on so many pages on Wikipedia. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I really thought I had got it this time. I cut so much info out and studied Wikipedia rules! Thank you for your help. I will go into the tearoom now as well to continue to ask advice about it.MediaExpert1979 (talk) 18:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Logic

Thanks for pointing out the extreme leaning of Wikipedia. I don't know how a selection of opinion pieces is considered a good reference or even better, British citizens celebrating their colony being conflated with Australia day. Don't worry, I'm done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autist4lyfe (talk • contribs) 23:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Use of symbols in page names

Hello David - do you have any views on the use of symbols such as β in page names. Would you know if there is a guideline somewhere? My own feeling is that the page name ought to be readable to a general reader who may well know the term beta-carotene for example but not the symbol usage. Some pages use a symbol and others don't. Many thanks --Iztwoz (talk) 08:48, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Iztwoz Wikipedia: Article titles and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions) suggest not using symbols, which I would take to not using non-English letters. When I enter a Greek letter in the Search Wikipedia space, I get English names. Example: μ lists M titles. David notMD (talk) 15:30, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for that. Shall go ahead and make changes. Best --Iztwoz (talk) 16:28, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Deleted content

Something similar just happened to Cullen328. I'll apologize profusely to you also. I have no idea what happened. I explained to him that my computer is down and I'm using a decrepit family laptop that blasts me into macros at the touch of a letter occasionally. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 02:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Understood. David notMD (talk) 02:42, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Multifaceted Femme Fatale

Recent deletion problem aside, I like the edit you did to the section "Multifaceted Femme Fatale" on Jan 26. It was my first substantive edit other than plot summary work. How did you see my addition so quickly, was it on your watchlist? I've subsequently changed the title to "Complex Femme Fatale"; "multifaceted" seems like a resume key word, or something. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 15:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

I check in as a Teahouse host several times a day, and if there has been an interaction with a new editor, I sometimes check on that person's Contributions to see what else they have been doing. For example, Arunpawargere asked a question at Teahouse which led me to find out that this editor is opposing two proposed article deletions, and is at times editing logged in to an account and not logged in - a serious error that can lead to being indefinitely blocked. So I left a note on Talk page to only edit logged in. Same editor may be paid by the companies in the articles, but has not answered to being paid or having a conflict-of-interest. Undeclared paid editing is another serious transgression. David notMD (talk) 16:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Were any volumes published during the perion of Le Musée Napoléon?

Yes .... this is why one of the 3 titles of the publication is Le Musee Napoleon. If the period of this title is 1804 to 1814, then much of the publication is from this period. Thanks for your interest. I've put comments on your editing at the place of your explanation on my talk -- is that how it's done? George-Amherst (talk) 20:42, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Months of effort working so long day and nights to help get the word out about a fantastic drug, HU308, destroyed without good explanation.

It would help a heck of a lot if editors had KINDLY guided me. My IQ is over 160. I hold 3 separate undergrad degrees in psychology and languages and a doctor of law. Yet I cannot understand the abrupt manner of writing of editors who say I called any of the companies MY company as if I owned it. there is no link to what they are talking about. whatever it was is gone now thanks to their assumptions that I have a conflict of interest. What I have a conflict with is editors that don't educate to explain and force educated men and women to guess what they are talking about. How would you like me to provide you legal counsel they way you guys provide me assistance? I could be abrupt and short and disparaging as well as totally speak in legalese and make assumptions you understand what I'm saying.

How on earth someone got the idea I have a conflict of interest because as a psychologist I fight alzheimers and study anything that stops inflammation of the brain. For that I and a great product under research for over 30 years are put in wikipedia hell and it is disparaged as not a notable drug. I think you all are insane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MightyMaven (talk • contribs) 14:08, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

MightyMaven Wikipedia has set a standard for medical/health references that prohibits content based in in vitro work, animal research and individual clinical trials. I deleted most of the content at HU-308 because the references did not qualify. At that time (Nov 2021) I stated clearly my reasons on the Talk page of the article. If there are references that meet WP:MEDRS standards, i.e., reviews, systematic reviews and meta-analyses published in journals of good reputation, then information can be added back. As a research biochemist (PhD, MIT; post-doc Sloan-Kettering), when I first started editing articles at Wikipedia I too was using references that did not meet that standard, and had a lot of my efforts reverted. David notMD (talk) 14:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you David_notMD!

I greatly appreciate your helpful edits as I am not an editor and know nothing (absolutely zero experience) about editing Wikipedia pages & feel I have been given a serious task with wild assortment of 'experienced editors' giving me often extremely contradicting (often contradicting each other) while offering harsh criticism with absolutely no editing done - even though they say they are expert editors. Its a releif to see that at least one of you is actually focused on editing and giving actual specific editing instructions - instead of just attacks. I can see that there are actual real 'editors' on Wikipedia and there are people who just want to attack and do nothing else. Thank you for being the former.

The 'notable students' was added at the insistence of a so called 'expert editor' who gave Robert S Langer's page as an example and (like most 'expert' editors talking to me) said that Mike's page needs an abundance more of references to be taken seriously. Of course, I'm doing what these editors tell me since they say they have years of experience doing this and it is 100% up to them on what is correct/incorrect/accepted/rejected when submitted - even though it is sometimes impossible to sort through who to listen to as there is mostly just attacks and very little actual 'editing' done by 'said' super editors. Your stars related to editing are well-earned.

If you (or any of your trusted friends) see any additional errors on Mike's page - anything -, kindly please let me know how to correct so I can fix before submitting again.

Huge appreciation for your time and genuine help, McGuire at Stanford Snyderlab (talk) 21:05, 3 February 2022 (UTC)McGuire at Snyderlab

First, as per obvious, there is distain among the experienced volunteers who help an Teahouse or review articles, to help paid editors. The thinking is that anyone being compensated (directly or indirectly) should be competent. Second, what matters for refs is quality over quantity. Over-referencing daunts reviewers because then they have to identify which are key. Minimally, what is needed is at least three good refs ABOUT a person. Including referencing a person's accomplishments, within reason, is useful information, but adds nothing to Wikipedia' concept of notability. An article is not a CV. Neutral point of view means no laudatory adjectives. Good luck. I believe Snyder has a notable career that justifies an approved article once clutter is reduced. On 'notable students,' Wikipedia would only consider them notable if there were already existing Wikipdia articles about them. And even with that, notability is not contagious. If any of my PhD or post-doc students achieved notability it would mean naught to my putative notability. David notMD (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Understood. That explains a lot. I realize now that there must be 'paid' editors who (unlike me) have edited on Wikipedia before. Many of the comments directed to me have assumed that I actually know what I'm doing. At this point, I hope it is clear that I am a beginner & this is the first Wikipedia page I've ever attempted to 'edit'. When Fiddle Faddle kept saying "You... need to relearn,..."You... etc..", It seemed that he was directing this to me, so I was hesitant to respond to him 'elsewhere' - like on his talk page, yet I wanted to acknowledge his comments. I'm beginning to remove all the clutter and hope I can streamline the entire page & change it to a much more neutral tone. Thanks! McGuire at Stanford Snyderlab (talk) 22:52, 6 February 2022 (UTC)McGuire at Snyderlab

McGuire at Snyderlab FYI - Wikipedia has a dark history of people offering services as editors for hire who guarantee they can create articles. This includes legitimate efforts and outright fraud. In some instances, editors for hire created more than one account, so that it would appear that different people were working to create an article = sockpuppetry. Accounts caught out as being undeclared paid editors or sockpuppets are indefinitely blocked. On a different note, having a photo of Snyder does not contribute to notability. And Wikipedia is VERY strict about copyright, which is held by the photographer, not the subject. When this is accepted, you can take photos of Snyder, post those at Commons, and then use in the article. David notMD (talk) 23:07, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining that. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to deal with 'sockpuppets' and such. I'm not concerned about the photo & will research that process after getting the bloat out of the text & fixing all the reference issues later this month. Thanks so much. McGuire at Stanford Snyderlab (talk) 18:59, 7 February 2022 (UTC)McGuire at Snyderlab

Huh

Your mom didn't put the giblets in the gravy? --Trovatore (talk) 18:11, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Not sure what our context is, but ours was a gravy-free household. David notMD (talk) 18:38, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

It was the claim that turkey liver is "rarely consumed by humans". --Trovatore (talk) 18:50, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Turkey was a once-a-year meal in our home, an my childhood memories are dry turkey, no gravy. I was more familiar with chicken liver, and (sadly) calf liver. David notMD (talk) 19:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

My household put gravy on everything, even drinks. I think it was a religious thing. Panini!^🥪 12:54, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Growth Team Features

Hello, David! If you're not MD, then who are you?

The English Wikipedia has been experimenting with the Growth Team Features; it's been posted to the Teahouse talk a bit, so you might be aware. One of these new features is a mentorship program, where new users are assigned an experienced editor that they can directly contact for guidance if needed. This feature is given to 2% of users, but they're currently in the talks of bumping it up to 80% or higher. We have about 50-ish users signed up as mentors, so I'm reaching out to other people (including you, if you didn't catch on) to see if they want to join in to help lighten the load of questions each mentor will receive. The questions you'll get is nothing you haven't seen before at the Teahouse, only this time it's posted to your talk page (see mine for examples) and you might see the same user more than once. If you're interested in signing up, please do so here. Panini!^🥪 14:15, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Back in the days of forums there was a person with whom I disagreed with on science topics, who went by David MD. My User page confirms that I am not MD, but have another useful degree. I am willing to experiment with the mentor process, with more tact than I sometimes show at Teahouse. David notMD (talk) 14:41, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I see. For some reason, "MD = Medical Degree" did not click in my mind. I should catch up on acronyms. For example, I have no idea what "tfw" stands for. Panini!^🥪 15:35, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Long Slog for David W. Orr

David MD, Thanks for your feedback on editing David Orr's talk page. I'm gaining a whole new understanding and respect for Wikipedia. Thanks for volunteering to be a host. Keep Colorado Wild Keep Colorado Wild (talk) 22:26, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Keep Colorado Wild Early on, Wikipedia was plagued by people offering article writing for hire, as in WP:UPE, scams (guaranteeing an article but not doing anything), even sabotage (starting a deletion process using one account and offering to save the article using a different account). Also rampant vandalism and |sockpuppets (multiple accounts). Also lot of content that was not referenced, so no way to find out if true or not. The last included people creating articles about themselves. For all of these 'disease' Wikipedia developed defenses. So, new editors run into all types of invisible guidelines and rules, and get frustrated. I agree Orr's article can be improved/updated. What I recommend is prioritize and not all at once. Draft a modest amount of content to add in your Sandbox with a reference or references. Then, on the Talk page of the article, start a new section and paste therein what you want to see added, and where in the article. Include the words edit request inside double curly brackets {{ }} template. Doing that 'flags' your edit request to attract attention to a bevy of volunteer editors who help with this task. Maybe weeks go by, but it will be acted on. David notMD (talk) 08:50, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Make a Difference Foundation Submission

Hi David notMD,

You recently commented on Teahouse on the topic of my latest AfC submission,

"More than half the refs are mentions of Wilipedia-notable people who are "ambassadors" for the foundation. These do not contribute to the article's notability."

• I believe it is relevant that the Ambassadors are mentioned in the AfC draft, as they have media presence and are famous within Australian society.
• No suggestion was made as to whether or not the article became more notable after their addition; the Ambassadors were added because they are a large part of the outward face of the organisation.

"Other refs are to the foundations's website. A lot of content is not referenced"

• I noted in the talk page that some sources aren't possible to be completely externally-sourced with "The non-independent ones which remain have been de-personalised in tone; I have changed the language around the point at which they are referenced to reflect the facts them as statements".
• Which sections do you believe need referencing? I thought that all the sections contained references; I am more than happy to make additions.

Kind regards, DC D.C. at MAD Foundation Inc. (talk) 01:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

D.C. at MAD Foundation Inc. Naming the ambassadors and their activities contributes nothing toward notability. (Notability is not contagious.) As other editors commented, lots of content without references. Refs 1 & 3 confirm MAD exists - do not contribute to notability. Refs 2 and 5 are to MAD - do not contribute to notability. Refs 6 onward are about the ambassadors, ditto. That leave #4, which is not enough. David notMD (talk) 02:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi DavidnotMD,

Notability is not in contention for this particular article - that has been the opinion of several editors to whom I have spoken.

Notability is not grounds for removing references either; why mention this? I am not attacking your point, I'm just wanting to clarify why this is being brought up.

Kind regards, D.C. at MAD Foundation Inc. (talk) 04:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

D.C. at MAD Foundation Inc. In my opinion, notability has not been confirmed by the existing references. You are free to revert my edit (View history, and then Undo on the line of my edit) and I will cease from editing and commenting. David notMD (talk) 09:46, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Teahouse

I was also saying that editing while logged out can happen because the login expired, and it wasn't noticed. Cwater1 (talk) 03:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Image

A new message has been sent to you.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Karestoonegoli#Image --Karestoonegoli (talk) 13:58, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Question from Aqshin Tağızadə (Babazadə) on Language model (19:24, 22 March 2022)

Bildiylerimizi bolusey yeniliklərdən herkes xəbərdar olsun.biz birlikdə güclüyük

1. kidsmodahome --Aqshin Tağızadə (Babazadə) (talk) 19:24, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Not my language David notMD (talk) 22:21, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Vitamin A

Hello! Your submission of Vitamin A at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Szmenderowiecki (talk) 13:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of user pages

I see that you recently removed a speedy deletion tag from a user page, with the edit summary "Requesting a Speedy delete of your own User page is wrong. You can delete content, but the UP stays." I have no idea why you think that, but it is perfectly acceptable for an editor to request deletion of their user page. There is no prohibition whatever on a user deciding that they no longer want everything they have ever put on their user page to be publicly visible in the page history. See Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#U1. JBW (talk) 08:19, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Were you thinking of user talk pages, David? Bishonen | tålk 08:33, 25 March 2022 (UTC).

I was wrong. I conflated Speedy for User page with deleting an account. David notMD (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Outdoor Games

Can you help me with creating an article of Outdoor Games Bombers23 (talk) 01:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy note: For what it's worth, I've responded at User talk:Bsoyka#Relayball. David notMD, feel free to add on either there or here if you'd like. Bsoyka (talk) 03:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

I left a note at Draft:Relayball. Also, I see no benefit in the attempt to create a list of outdoor games. David notMD (talk) 09:13, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation filed on Bombers23. David notMD (talk) 17:33, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Confirmed as sock. David notMD (talk) 12:57, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Advise

Hi sir actually i just looked out that you edited Hillwoods Academy wikipedia page and i'm extremely thankful to you for that but one thing i didn't understood is that why did you removed the origin catergory how is it promotional please check it out once again still if you think that there's something wrong then please suggest me how can i specify the foundation stone and inaugrals.

Thanks in Advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Divyanshu Tejwani (talk • contribs) 10:46, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Divyanshu Tejwani: I should have given another reason for the deletion. The reference is the Hillwoods Academy website. That is considered a primary source, which is valid for simple facts (year of founding, number of students, names of faculty, etc.) but not subjective, laudatory language. Second, the text in Origins is an exact quote. That represents a copyright infringement. I used that second reason to delete other content. David notMD (talk) 10:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

ok thanks sir for your advise so shall i rewrite the origin catergory but in my own words? is that okay? Divyanshu Tejwani (talk) 12:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Divyanshu Tejwani In your own words is the right approach. Avoid works such as "life mission, novel, phenominal, excellent..." Also, if you are personnally affiliated with Hillwoods, see WP:COI and WP:PAID to learn if either apply. David notMD (talk) 12:56, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FoodBeeper

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FoodBeeper. Rymknows23 (talk) 10:00, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I've notified you about the ongoing discussion since you've previously made some edits to the article.

DYK for Vitamin A

On 8 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Vitamin A, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that vitamin A deficiency is the leading cause of preventable childhood blindness despite existing prevention programs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vitamin A. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Vitamin A), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

joining

how can i join the department of fun Quident (talk) 17:37, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Question about changes you've made on Draft:Lee Seung-joo

Hello David, First of all, thank you for the edits you made on the draft I created. They were really helpful and I understood a bit more how is the Wikipedia's mentality on writing articles. However, with all the respect, I have to ask why should all these details must be removed from the section of "Early Life". OK, I know that you are more experienced than me and there is a reason you removed it, but I have to ask you so I know for future articles. I hope you understand. Thank you for everything - Fisforfenia (talk) 06:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Fisforfenia For biographies of living people, every factual statement needs to be verified by a reference. What I cut: "As he said in an interview with I-D, he was born in a "very conservative family". From a young age, he would tell his parents that he wanted to work into the music industry. At the age of 13, he got his first guitar, electric from the beginning. He wasn't taught by a qualified teacher but from someone who had met at the Guitar Center and "By the Way " by Red Hot Chili Peppers was the first song he ever played. At school, he was a lonely child and he wouldn't have friends. Drumming became a part of his life accidentally when he volunteered to learn percussion at school. Later, he became the drummer of the jazz band of his school. In his interview, he also said that he "fell in love" with drums so much that he preferred playing them than the guitar, that's also the reason why he saved up to buy a drum set."

There is no reference for any of that. It is all small-detail personal. None of it is content that one would expect to find in an encyclopedia article about a person. It has no relevance to what may confirm he meet's Wikipedia's definition of being notable, and hence article-worthy. My intention in making a few example cuts was to improve the draft's chances of being approved. Be aware that interviews are not considered reliable source references. David notMD (talk) 09:19, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

oh, OK then. Thanks a lot for the explanation. Before starting it someone had told me that that interview was a really good source and I actually relied mostly on that. Also, I didn't know that fact for interviews so... again thank you for the info and the correction - Fisforfenia (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 09:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Vasisth Mritunjay Thakur on User:Vasisth Mritunjay Thakur (09:45, 22 April 2022)

How to upload a picture --Vasisth Mritunjay Thakur (talk) 09:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Vasisth Mritunjay Thakur If asking about a photograph you yourself took, see Commons:Contributing your own work, Step #4. David notMD (talk) 10:01, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Declined vs Rejected

Hello, going forward I will try to use the terminology Declined article/draft, since that is what the documentation says. Does rejection have a specific meaning that is distinct from declined though? I couldn't find any formal Wiki meanings for rejected articles. In some cases, similar concepts like WP:BLOCK and WP:BAN refer to two related but distinct aspects. Is that the case for decline/rejected? Cheers! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:56, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Shushugah Item 8.5 at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions describes when to Reject.

I raised a discussion there, thank you for pointing me in right direction. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation § Discussion to change template wording ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Kuldeep.useline (11:20, 11 May 2022)

hey David,

I am working with a brand called useline.com, and we want to create a Wikipedia page for our brand as we got a lot of citations recently from big publishers. can you guide me what is the best way to have a brand/startup Wikipedia page --Kuldeep.useline (talk) 11:20, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Kuldeep.useline: First, discontinue this account and start a new one with a name like Bobatuseline, as your current name violates the name policy. Second, declare your paid situation (seeWP:PAID) on your new account User page, as advised on your Talk page. Third, use WP:YFA to start a draft. Fourth, the content and references need to establish notability as outlined at WP:NCORP. See Check Into Cash for an example article about a loan company. Last, consider abandoning this goal. Wikipedia has articles (not pages) about established companies that can reference articles about the company published in reliable news sources. Start-ups rarely/never qualify. David notMD (talk) 07:00, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Creating new article

Thank you! Jkma31 (talk) 00:42, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

New article grupa amerika

In Serbian mafia is grupa amerika only mentioned in some words,I have A LOT of material for group america with reliable sources Jkma31 (talk) 00:48, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

But I gota be careful because it has to be Profesional there are many rules about editing on wikipedia,I have in plan to continue but slowly and correct Jkma31 (talk) 00:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Miamias2019 on Wikipedia:CEE Spring 2022/Participate (23:55, 26 May 2022)

When your asking a question. Who responds --Miamias2019 (talk) 23:55, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I do not understand your question. I will be away from Wikipedia 27 May through 5 June. If you mean, when you are asking a question at Teahouse, there are Teahouse hosts who check Teahouse often, and may answer. Hosts tend to be very experienced editors. There are also non-hosts who answer. David notMD (talk) 01:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from JPT1945 (07:10, 2 June 2022)

hello --JPT1945 (talk) 07:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Would you consider becoming a New Page Reviewer?

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. () Hi David notMD, I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; the new page reviewing team needs help from experienced users. Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, most pages are easy to review, and habits are quick to develop). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR. If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board. Cheers, and hope to see you around, (t · c) buidhe 17:37, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Regrets. What with my intention to continue to raise nutrition articles to GA and my commitment to Teahouse (and some real-life stuff), I am doing as much as a care to. David notMD (talk) 18:05, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Minenhle mahlangu (14:16, 14 June 2022)

Where can I find a full video clip of the Prince who wanted to see the world --Minenhle mahlangu (talk) 14:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Minenhle mahlangu Nothing I can help with. David notMD (talk) 15:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Good Articles

Good job, the number of Good Articles that you finished has improved significantly during the last two years. Congratulations! Very well done! Do you think further upgrading at least one of them to a FA (Featured Article)? --Maxim Masiutin (talk) 17:47, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Maxim Masiutin My intention is to complete vitamins first (Thiamine, Vitamin E, Vitamin D), and then consider taking vitamin C to FA, as it get more than half a million views a year. I also intend to complete the common food allergy articles (peanuts, etc.). David notMD (talk) 19:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply! Maxim Masiutin (talk) 20:05, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Pratik Sen

Hi, just a short note to ask if you edited the draft on Pratik Sen and made it concise. If yes, thank you. I noticed 2 places where [citation needed] have been requested. Will close the loop. Thank you so much ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnamikaWrites (talk • contribs) 08:58, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Ooh you wrote a book?

Hey just wondering if the book you wrote is for sale anywhere. Also what it’s called.

I like reading. . . Dwightol102 (talk) 03:45, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Dwightol102 My book is about the history of the small town where I live. A best seller in town, a non-seller elsewhere. David notMD (talk) 09:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Nice,

I’ve written a couple badly put together short stories, for sale nowhere and likely to never see the light of day, but someday I hope to write a real book, whether it sells or not. The problem is I need an idea…

thanks anyway, Dwightol102 (talk) 03:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

mugshot

it literally is based on the copyright status. I don't see how using a mugshot in a BLP for a warrant for someone who isn't actually notable for their crime is encyclopedic, much less neutral. PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:43, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Also I'm pretty sure mugshots in TN are not in public domain since the arresting officer isn't a federal agent and TN doesn't appear to have the same copyright laws as Florida when it comes to photos. Ie. "This only applies to original works of the Federal Government and not to the work of any individual U.S. state, territory, commonwealth, county, municipality, or any other subdivision." shelby County, to my knowledge is not exempt from this. PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:45, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

notability for scientists

Hi David,

You may understand my problem - Secondary references for scientists. People in show business get REVIEWS and those get PUBLISHED - can be used for secondary references. Scientists get papers reviewed (reviews not published) Grants reviewed (reviews not published) so these don not result in secondary references. Ascientist may have hundreds of pubs - thousands of citations, many grants - but no SECONDARY REFERENCES. Is this fair... DrGeorge22 DrGeorge22 (talk) 03:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

DrGeorge22 - It is what it is. People in the arts and performance get written ABOUT. Same for politicians. However, for those who labor in the sciences and in academia in general, Wikipedia:Notability (academics) offers guidelines. Specific criteria, for example, an endowed chair, count toward notability. Same for major awards and honors. If anything, scientists who are in industry have even fewer options. David notMD (talk) 03:44, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

By the way, I am also MIT: BS Biology 1973 and PhD Nutritional Biochemistry 1981. My career was all industry. David notMD (talk) 03:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi David, THANKS FOR REPLY. I must reply: "It is what it is" I say -> IT(Wikipedia) is what YOU(and other top-echelon EDITORS make it... Nobel prize winners usually make wiki (as they should), but even endowed chair does not look like a secondary reference. How about citations on publications - that seems to represent some measure notability.

(I, too spent time at MIT - great institution!) Best, Steve DrGeorge22 (talk) 15:46, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

DrGeorge22. I am a frequent and long-time editor, and Teahouse host, but that gives me no greater authority, nor influence on policy. A university website that has a biosketch of a faculty member can be considered a secondary source to confirm endowed chair, major awards, etc. I can add that neither number of publications nor how often publications are cited can confirm notability in the Wikipedia sense of the term. David notMD (talk) 21:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Riboflavin

Good morning, David! I've added a subsection at the Talk page of Riboflavin, mentioning the sources that support the mention of the two rare disorders. Here it is: Add a mention of two rare disorders?

Please share your opinion over there! Cheers, --CopperKettle (talk) 02:52, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Did so. David notMD (talk) 12:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi David I am the guy working on michiya haruhatas page

Thanks for you help I wasn’t sure how to include citations because the three signature guitars statement comes from the same site and also in the site I cited it says he preformed in front of 60,000 people and I added that because of notability but if that is countable under advertising on non neutrality then I apologise and thank you for fixing it Thanks Goldsoldier75 (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Notability

I think Winning in an election doesn't prove notability . He/she may be a social worker or a leader with popularity and social importance. I told this because you cited that lurin Jyoti gogoi has not notability because he lost an election. Please rethink Baruahranuj 13:18, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Baruah ranuj I am not a Reviewer. However, the has-won-an-election position is often among the reasons that an article about a person is accepted. David notMD (talk) 20:38, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Comment of about Ntui’s article

Yes, David, I know publications do no signify notability. The major things that make me feel that the Draft: Aniebiet Inyang Ntui is notable is that she is a fellow of a notable organisation IFLA and a UN Peace Ambassador. ElontheWikiEditor (talk) 17:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Muhomorty (11:41, 10 May 2022)

Hello! I translated an article from the Estonian section of Wikipedia, when can it be checked? --Muhomorty (talk) 11:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Muhomorty I am guessing you are asking about User:Muhomorty/Rich Wizard. First, I am not a Reviewer. The process for submitting a draft to Articles for Creation is described at WP:YFA. Click on Article Wizard (in blue rectangle). Follow instructions to Submit your draft. There is a backlog of submitted drafts, so could be days, weeks, or sadly, months before your draft is reviewed. The system is not a queue. David notMD (talk) 15:28, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Muhomorty (talk) 17:08, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Tapping your expertise 2.0

Hey David,

You gave me some really helpful info in the teahouse last month, and I've used your guidance to help make my first official page as strong as I can. I'm now backing up reference URLs with archive links and uploading screenshots of clips I don't have links for, but it's basically ready. I think this page could go live; you had mentioned there's technically nothing wrong with doing that, but I don't want to do anything that might upset editors/reviewers. A couple of people have checked out the page and made just two or three small edits. Whether that means they couldn't find anything else or just didn't do a very deep dive, I don't know. I'd sure like to think it's because I did a thorough job.

Also, when I inquired about adding categories, someone who helped me out apparently added "Draft articles on linguistics." I don't know how to get rid of that. It's most certainly not about linguistics — though I love that subject.

I hoping you might offer some guidance about whether it looks good enough to release and/or what I might do to get it reviewed if I should keep waiting. It's only been up for review for two or three weeks, and I don't want to be impatient, but I think it's informative, plus, once it's up, I'll feel more confident about tackling another. I've been making edits to other entries when I see something I think I can improve or correct, but now that I've taught myself as much as I have, I need to keep going so I don't forget what I've already learned! (And I need to learn how to add categories correctly.)

Thanks for any help/insight/etc. you might toss my way ...

～～～～ TexasEditor1 (talk) 04:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Starr conspiracy

The company “Starr conspiracy” Is using this wiki article (amongst other information, disinformation, missing information etc) to attempt to identify Q retards

Only issue is these morons are also attracting innocent paranormal investigators who just want to look for ghosts lol

I don’t want paranormal investigators getting involved with this derpy Q nonsense

This article should list that “Morefar” golf course is also known paranormal for ghost sightings, because according to the local news station, a ghost book etc it is. I’m a local and have been to golf course multiple times etc

This would at least (hopefully) stop people looking into other sites (the rest of Starrs misinformation)

If this article made a paranormal connection then this “Starr conspiracy” programming / misinformation web ( that they most likely congratulate themselfs on frequently) would most likely not work anymore.

Paranormal investigators are not Q tards. I hope Wikipedia would try and protect these people (paranormal investigators).

Summary / I’m worried that paranormal investigators are getting out in danger and this article (intentionally or by mistake) my be playing a part Jadeyone (talk) 14:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Letter from Mathilde Lefebvre

Hello David notMD,

Thanks you for your help on my draft. (Draft:Letter from Mathilde Lefebvre - Wikipedia) Do you believe that I can resubmit my draft ?

Sincerely, Jeanne Angerie Jeanne Angerie (talk) 14:36, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

There is no penalty for resubmitting. The next reviewer may have a different opinion of the references. David notMD (talk) 16:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the help

Ok thanks, I guess I’m stuck with these articles attracting Q retards to my town 🤷‍♂️

Thanks for the reply. Jadeyone (talk) 17:36, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from TiwarisachinBJP (18:03, 2 August 2022)

Hello --TiwarisachinBJP (talk) 18:03, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Heidi Saadiya

Hello, thank you so much for your reply in teahouse. And I've a doubt, Heidi Saadiya is the firat Transgender journalist from Kerala. Does it gives notability to Heidi?

• Article about Heidi on Femina
• Kerala’s First Transwoman Broadcast Journalist Makes Her Debut with Chandrayaan-2 Reportage

There is an article for the first Transgender journalist from India, Padmini Prakash.Imperfect Boy (talk) 23:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Imperfect Boy I am not a Reviewer. I will say that the fact that an article exists about Padmini Prakash (which you could mention at the Talk page of the draft) does not guarantee that the same will be true for Saadiya. David notMD (talk) 03:39, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Fra Francisco on Wikipedia:Redirect (19:20, 11 August 2022)

How can i open the Wikipedia account --Fra Francisco (talk) 19:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Fra Francisco is your account. I do not understand what you mean by having it on Wikipedia:Redirect. David notMD (talk) 19:24, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Aam Aadmi Party

Thank you for your edit to the article on the Aam Aadmi Party. Please could you use the article talk page to discuss this. I admit that this is sometimes frustrating; but it is worth trying.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:30, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sesame allergy Reviewing

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sesame allergy you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Nolabob -- Nolabob (talk) 10:41, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Sadboialvarez13 on Wikipedia:About (00:38, 31 August 2022)

Hellow --Sadboialvarez13 (talk) 00:38, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Sadboialvarez13 Do you have a question about Wikipedia? David notMD (talk) 01:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Apology & Request of speedy deletion

I apologize for the draft of the “M. Kai Manchester” article. Not much is known and frankly there is barely anything that I could fill a Wikipedia article with. From what I have seen he is a relatively new artist— in the future, if more was discovered about him in reliable sources would you be averse to a stronger, more legible article? TigerMax1 (talk) 02:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

The Roaring Lion

With respect to your recent removal edit of the 'Some Chicken, some neck' speech Churchill made to the Canadian parliament in 1941 prior to his famous photo session with Karsh, your reasoning from my understanding is that it took away from the intended subject. I disagree. In consult with Richard Langworth, one of the world's leading experts on the life of Winston Churchill, he feels that specific speech set the mood for the occasion. I think readers who refer to the page would want to know what the speech was, why he was in Ottawa giving it and for what reason it was so important for the members of parliament needing to gather on what would be the first speech given in the House of Commons by a British PM. Winone65 (talk) 02:15, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Winone65 Being neither English nor Canadian, referring to the speech as it were titled or well known as "Some chicken; some neck." came across as a puzzle to me I found a transcript of the speech, and so learned that these words appeared at the end of the 12th paragraph. However, your reference and several others do refer to the speech by that name, so I will not contest the description. I did convert the hyperlink you added into a proper reference. Going forward, please do not make the same error. David notMD (talk) 06:57, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sesame allergy Approved

The article Sesame allergy you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sesame allergy for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Nolabob -- Nolabob (talk) 14:41, 6 September 2022 (UTC)