Talk:SIG Sauer P238

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Origin of the P238[edit]

P238 was made totally in house by SIGArms, the American importer, now called SIG Sauer. The original European company is now going by Swiss Arms AG. How does the P238 have origins as a German pistol, when it's made in New Hampshire, and the pistol itself is an American design (clone of the Colt Mustang), sold by an American company (SIGArms, now SIG Sauer)?

I understand the brilliant bait-and-switch of the importer, selling guns made in house with the same familiar SIG brand name, thus maintaining the same excellent reputation of the German/Swiss engineered import... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.131.109 (talk) 05:28, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last time I checked Sig Sauer was still very much a German company--albeit with an American distribution and manufacturing arm based in New Hampshire. While many of its current pistols are assembled and partially manufactured here, Sig Sauer still makes many of the component parts--such as the aluminum alloy frames that are so commonly used with many models--in Germany. As for this so-called bait-and-switch tactic you refer to: while it's true that among many hardcore Sig fans there is a preference favoring the older all-German models, that alone shouldn't take away from the quality of guns assembled in the Americas. Sig pistols, whether U.S.-sourced or European in origin, have and maintain a strong reputation for build and operational quality. Pistols and rifles built here are not merely living off the reputation of earlier German and Swiss-built Sigs and Sauers. Monoblocks (talk) 09:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

-It is actually a clone of the Colt Pony, not the Colt Mustang, with Colt Pony magazines even being functional in the SIG Sauer p238.

This is incorrect. There are two glaring features that the Colt Mustang shares with the P238, that are different from the Colt Pony. The Mustang and P238 are single action, with an external thumb safety, designed to be carried in Condition One (cocked and locked). The Pony is double action designed to be carried in Condition Two. (hammer down) DrHenley (talk) 12:54, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

--The 238 is in fact a direct copy of the Mustang. I have been told that Colt licenced the design to Sig, but can not find a source for that information. For a direct comparison that clearly shows how closely the p238 is based on the Mustang see here: http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/SIGP238/sigp238.html. 75.169.221.210 (talk) 15:23, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Magazine Capacity[edit]

I came here to learn about the P238, not audit and correct. It would not be out of line to specify the magazine capacity.

I now believe it is supposed to be 6 + 1. "If you can't hit it in six shots, maybe you don't actually NEED a bigger mag!" - anonymous.

Infodater (talk) 16:29, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The capacity is listed right in the sidebar. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 05:32, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]