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A simpler translation of Haq حق is "truth", so I'm fairly sure that Swords of Truth is just the translation of the group above. Unless you have a reason to think they are separate?
I would call them "Swords of Truth" and give the other name as a translation in the first sentence, because most group names get translated, e.g. we say Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and not "Kataeb Shuhada Al-Aqsa".
@Evaporation123, are you still working on this? Is there a reason you think Swords of Truth and Suyuf al-Haq are separate? MWQs (talk) 09:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It may have been my mistake. I do not know Arabic, so I saw the words "righteousness" and "truth" and assumed there were two groups just with similar names. Given what you now say and what Wiktionary says ("to be true, to be confirmed to be right, to be correct, to be necessary, to be obligatory, to be imperative, to be adequate, to be suitable, to be appropriate...") it does seem like it is one not two groups. Evaporation123 (talk) 18:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Evaporation123 thank you, I'll combine those two sections. Did you notice which name seems to be more common? I think I've seen "Swords of Truth" in a few places. They are a bit hard to Google because they seem to be named after a story in the Quran that is mentioned far more often than they are. MWQs (talk) 02:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the sources cited for that section use the "swords of righteousness" or some sort of variation on that. Again, it's an Arabic translation and in this particular case the translated meaning is quite flexible, it can either be "righteousness" or "truth". So maybe we can use Swords of Righteousness just because that translation is more common. It barely matters though. Evaporation123 (talk) 06:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It can matter of the search results for different translations tell vastly different stories? But as long as we mention the other one the heading doesn't matter. They were referred to on at least one other page as Swords of Truth. MWQs (talk) 07:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just changed it to:
Suyuf al-Haq (Arabic: سيوف الحق, romanized: Suyūf al-Ħaq, lit. 'The Swords of Truth' or 'The Swords of Righteousness') is or was a "veteran" group...
I think this is fine, both translations of "haqq" are included. Evaporation123 (talk) 16:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It seems you combined them already. I hope it is OK that I have been working on this draft, I'm not sure what the etiquette is on that? MWQs (talk) 07:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it's completely fine, etiquette is just like anywhere else on Wikipedia, check WP:EPEvaporation123 (talk) 16:56, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
