Wikipedia talk:Graphics Lab/Resources/Tutorials

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Hmmm... There is already a Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps. This page is sort of redundant. --seav 12:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there is already a Maps project, with two ways to request maps, with suggested colors, style notices, and an ongoing and vibrant discussion page. That project pre-dates this by a couple of years. Please join in there! MapMaster 05:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Is there, in fact, any point to this page? Maybe it should Improve maps rather than create them (e.g. vectorise). --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 19:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Consolidation attempts concerning map projects, labs, etc.

Note: This info was copied from Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Resources/Maps.

See Commons:Commons:Graphic Lab/Maps and Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps

Note: this sub-Lab was not open because in 2007 because :

1. the English GLab was not enough active in 2007 to be divided in two specialised Lab, it's to the current graphits to think about open this sub-lab if need ;
2. the Project:Map , which was on en.wikipedia.org for years before the Graphic Lab (us) displayed resistance to be convert into a Graphic Lab's subpage or simply to change their usages. So, despite their Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps/Requested and orphan maps is a death page, and despite I think a forum shaped page (like the GLab) is better for cross help, teach/learn exchanges, and to harmonize maps style, I didn't insisted (they were here first after all). Also, from what I seen (10 or 6 months ago), the project:Map continue to work on an "anarchist way" : each volunteer mapmaker making maps on his side, and then using the Project talkpage to ask help and share knowledge.

I now think the best thing to do should be to merge [WikiProject Maps/Requested and orphan maps] and [Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Project map].

Other thing to notice about maps on wikipedia :

In summer 2007, the ~ten best mapmakers on wiki-en, wiki-fr, and commons were noticed about the project to set up new common map recommendations. The task is really HUGE (I means HUGE), and is just done at ~30% (first stage).
To avoid lost of time (by endless talks), the French graphist plan to lead the second stage alone : "set workable and complete recommendations".
The stage 3 will be to ask experts to harmonize and improvement the colors, icones, naming conventions according to the aim to communicate clearly (Avoiding chartjunk) with graphical medium.

Forum format

Since the graphics lab subpages are being updated . . . I'd be open to the idea of having a forum format like the graphics lab for maps, but have a couple of caveats - 1) I don't see any problem with using the general graphics lab for maps as it is now unless it's really getting overcrowded and 2) the reason Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps/Requested and orphan maps is dead is not because it isn't needed but due to a lack of cartographers to work on maps. I'm not sure switching to or adding a forum format is going to somehow make cartographers come out of the woodwork, but I don't think it'd hurt anything. As a side note I tend to work off of Category:Wikipedia requested maps more than Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps/Requested and orphan maps but I'm not sure anyone else does. Kmusser (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)