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October 21[edit]

03:18:58, 21 October 2022 review of submission by Bannana2018[edit]


Bannana2018 (talk) 03:18, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bannana2018: We are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Every biographical claim that could potentially be challenged for any reason what-so-ever MUST be cited to an in-depth, non-routine, independent-of-the-subject news/scholarly source written by identifiable authors and subject to rigourous fact-checking that explicitly confirms the claim or (if no such sources can be found) removed wholesale. This is a hard requirement when writing content about living or recently-departed people on Wikipedia and is NOT NEGOTIABLE. This draft is also blatantly promotional, and I am going to tag it for summary deletion as such. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 03:30, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

09:52:39, 21 October 2022 review of draft by Inga Bajelidze[edit]


Hello,

I have disclosed that I am employee of the company founded by David Zilpimiani - the man I am writing the article about. therefore I disclosed that I am payed for it. Is it enough? or is there anything I should keep in my mind before submitting the article?

Inga Bajelidze (talk) 09:52, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Inga Bajelidze: from the COI / paid editing perspective, you're probably okay. However, I have to tell you this draft will not be accepted, as it currently stands. Firstly, it is entirely unreferenced (yes, there are a couple of sources listed at the end, but they are not cited, and don't seem to support anything in the draft). As I already explained, pretty much everything needs to be clearly supported by reliable published sources, and in the case of an article on a living person, this must be done by way of inline citations. See WP:REFB, WP:ILC and WP:BLP for advice.
Secondly, this sort of chronological bullet point approach doesn't read like an encyclopaedia article, it reads like a CV. You can certainly use bulleted lists, but they shouldn't be the only content there is. Please consider writing at least some of that in prose form. Also, we don't need to see everything someone has done or produced, Wikipedia is not a comprehensive catalogue of someone entire output; please focus only on the most notable aspects of his career. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:38, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for advices! Inga Bajelidze (talk) 10:57, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

11:12:00, 21 October 2022 review of submission by Jepwashere[edit]

Hi MaxnaCarta,

I've added a new section about the controversies the subject was involved in. Please let me know what you think.

Jepwashere (talk) 11:12, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Article has now been improved and company appears notable. Adding a dedicated controversies section seems WP:UNDUE and seems to be just to satisfy reviewers, so info has been restructured. Best sources [1], [2] and [3]. @MaxnaCarta: TechnoTalk (talk) 15:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No. This article has been deleted four times. It’s a corporate vanity piece written by an editor with a disclosed conflict of interest. The article has been bombed with references. Some notability but insufficiently in-depth to pass NCORP. I will never approve this article and my own decision is final. However, if any other AFC editors oppose my thinking they’re welcome to undo my rejection and approve. I will likely nominate the article for deletion and it’s likely to be deleted for a fifth. MaxnaCarta (talk) 19:07, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jepwashere The company "pivoted"? Ugh. David10244 (talk) 07:47, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@David10244: Like this, I imagine. --bonadea contributions talk 10:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Bonadea That's funny. I think there are some outtakes online, which are hilarious. Now I'll think of that scene every time I see a startup "pivot" David10244 (talk) 04:45, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

14:44:36, 21 October 2022 review of submission by Sidneylii[edit]

need to know if it follows all wikipedia guidelines, so that it will not be deleted Sidneylii (talk) 14:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sidneylii: whether or not it will get deleted isn't really what the AfC process is here to determine; we're mostly interested in whether it can be accepted for publication. And that's what you find out when you submit the draft for a review.
Having said which, I don't see anything in there which would make this person notable per WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO or any other notability standard that readily comes to mind. Therefore, if I were to review this, as it's currently written, I would most likely decline it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:56, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

15:13:20, 21 October 2022 review of submission by Sianxtdc[edit]


Sianxtdc (talk) 15:13, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stefan Bostandjiev is a Bulgarian racing driver born in 2004 in London, United Kingdom.

He began his career in karting in 2019 with Project One Racing, alongside his academic endeavors. He joined Overdrive Racing, the first Bulgarian racing team, in December 2020.

In 2021 Stefan Bostandjiev entered his first professional racing season alongside teammate Pavel Lefterov in the ADAC GT4 Germany. The duo finished in 2nd place in the Junior class and 6th place оverall of ADAC GT4 Germany 2021 (without attending Round 3 due to getting COVID-19).

Stefan Bostandjiev has remained in the ADAC GT4 Germany with Overdrive Racing for 2022.

Sianxtdc You don't ask a question, but the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. It is completely unsourced and does not show how he meets our definition of a notable person. Also see WP:NMOTORSPORT for guidance. 331dot (talk) 15:19, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

20:41:34, 21 October 2022 review of submission by Ppxdv[edit]


Please help me figure out how to make my article better so that it can get on your site. I want to write about a company that is working on a large number of patents that were developed by the founder of the company Friedrich Wilhelm Pleuger. I have information about the history of the company that may be interesting and useful to someone.

Ppxdv (talk) 20:41, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ppxdv, please clarify your relationship with the subject. If you are being paid by the company, even if payment is for non-wikpedia work, you must declare per the terms of services and as outlined in WP:PAID. If you have a relationship but are not paid, see WP:COI.

After that see this guide, which can help with understanding notability, verifiability and reliable sources. As it stands, the article is extremely detailed with none of that information actually found in the sources referenced. Slywriter (talk) 21:04, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

21:07:30, 21 October 2022 review of submission by 188.172.108.246[edit]


188.172.108.246 (talk) 21:07, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 21:18, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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