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04:19:02, 8 April 2021 review of submission by Oat2021[edit]
Hi team, I am requesting a re-review after following a contributor's directions to properly declare affiliation/COI on userpage and talk page of Draft: Better Holdco + added missing disambiguation + and made adjustments to make the Better draft neutral (removed marketing sounding language). Please let us know if we have followed directions properly. Happy to make any additional adjustments. Thank you for your time and review!
Oat2021 (talk) 04:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Oat2021 Apart from the fact that the draft has been rejected and will not be considered further, Wikipedia is a volunteer based project. We, the volunteers, expect editors receiving payment to hit the ground running, to have already absorbed all relevant policies prior to setting finger to keyboard and, in short, to do well the task they are paid to do. There is no bar on your creating a better, fresh draft. However, be aware that peole who only use Wikipedia for advertising purposes are viewed as Wikipedia:NOTHERE and tend to find their editing careers here to be short Fiddle Faddle 11:26, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
06:23:40, 8 April 2021 review of submission by Kwlee121[edit]
Hi, I revised the draft as per the suggestion from Robert McClenon. I benchmarked Wiki pages of comparable companies. The tone, sections and contents are aligned to benchmarks. Could you please re-review the revised draft?
Benchmarks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumtree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OfferUp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kijiji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextdoor
Kwlee121 (talk) 06:23, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Content like "In addition to the marketplace, the latest version of Karrot in Korea currently offers local business advertisements, commerce and social networking, aligned to its vision of building local engagement" is blatant advertising the draft has been correctly rejected, also see other poor quality articles exist. Theroadislong (talk) 07:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Sam445445 (talk) 11:06, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Sam445445 It is customary to ask a question at a help desk. Perhaps you would like to ask yours? Please see Telepathy Fiddle Faddle 11:21, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Timtrent :-) :-) Have a look at his contribs regarding my UTP... CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:01, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
13:27:31, 8 April 2021 review of submission by Tetide[edit]
While I was completing the draft of my un-edited article ERO - Dominique Philbert - graffiti artist, before it was put online in the public web by Wikipedia, a for profit company named wordisk 'stole' it from my user page draft, and posted it on https://worddisk.com/wiki/Draft:ERO_-_Dominique_Philbert_-_graffiti_artist/ . Be aware that it cannot be found directly on that company main page www.wordisk.com but can be found searching on google with the words 'ERO Dominique Philbert' at the second page of the google search results. I was very disappointed of that and had a correspondence with a Wikipedia volunteer named Rayna West. To defend my right to choose who should be the first to publish my article -a non profit organization. like Wikipedia and not a for profit company- I ask to post as soon as my article on Wikipedia and I will write to worddisk to remove it. If even in this case it is not possible to get online faster, I will give up and publish it on Academia.org and on Researchgate.net where I already have other articles. Please let me know what can be done and if the format of my article is acceptable and eventually which changes have to be done. Tetide (talk) 13:27, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Tetide you may not post email correspondence here. I have removed it and requested suppression
- I note that you were told that every time you publish changes you agree to our Terms of Use and agree to irrevocably release your text under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and GFDL.
- There is no way around this, and your complaint, while understandable, has no merit under the licensing scheme. Other sites scrape Wikipedia lawfully and all the time. Your right of redress is nil, and you need to smile, nod sagely, and move on, please. Fiddle Faddle 13:38, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
20:08:19, 8 April 2021 review of submission by Sam445445[edit]
could you help me with what will be error
Sam445445 (talk) 11:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
@Sam445445 Sadly you oversaw obviously the following message "Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted.", you removed the notice. Please ask at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk how you can rescue and resubmit your draft. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:46, 8 April 2021 (UTC) @commanderwaterford sorry for the inconvenience. When am editing the article the that section removed I think. What I need to do ? how i can resubmit the article once again
Sam445445 (talk) 20:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
20:47:08, 8 April 2021 review of submission by Tetide[edit]
Thanks for the previous answer, I could not believe but I learned, for the next time, to not post unedited discoveries before the article is online for all, as someone can see the draft, which is already considered public by Wikipedia, make a copy and publish it, before the author, pretending so to be the first. Now, my request for help is: what should I do to submit my article draft for publication online? ThanksTetide (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2021 (UTC) Tetide (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Tetide I have added the submit template for you, but the draft needs a lot of work to get it formatted correctly first. See WP:YFA and WP:MOS. Theroadislong (talk) 20:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Tetide Since you will need to do work to format a draft there is little point in trying to do that off-line. If you are unduly possessive about what you are doing then you are forgetting a basic principle of Wikipedia. That is that the moment you press the Publish button the text is anybody's because you have licenced it thus.
- Now, please do not create a new section for every supplementary question. Just add to the prior section. And simply enjoy creating and editing articles without worrying about some other goshdarn site using it. If they use an unedited draft it's not your loss, it's theirs. Fiddle Faddle 21:26, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
21:14:48, 8 April 2021 review of draft by MrBlueBirdLover6[edit]
How can I make the article seem less of an advertisement and more of a encyclopedia entry?
MrBlueBirdLover6 (talk) 21:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @MrBlueBirdLover6 Neutral prose and references. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to allow this article to remain. Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. Fiddle Faddle 21:33, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- MrBlueBirdLover6, to add on to what Timtrent said, look at how other articles about family entertainment centers are set up. None of these articles are perfect, but it may help you figure out where you can find sources and how you can add more text content to the article. Discovery Zone, Boomers! Parks, Peter Piper Pizza, etc. Bkissin (talk) 16:45, 15 April 2021 (UTC)