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01:18:46, 9 October 2020 review of submission by 216.174.68.251[edit]


I cannot add more than I have? Do you have further suggestions?

216.174.68.251 (talk) 01:18, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DROPTHESTICK. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:14, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

03:33:16, 9 October 2020 review of submission by KellyChristineN[edit]


If I say "X was interviewed on Bloomberg" Without giving any more information than that, can I just link the interview on YouTube? There is no specific information or biased information being stated except what you can easily see with your own eyes. Also, if someone is named chairperson of a board, can I not use the primary source from the company? The company should know better than anyone who is on staff. It's simply verifying employment at that point.

THIS IS NOT AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION IN THE SLIGHTEST. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KellyChristineN (talk • contribs) 21:39, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

KellyChristineN (talk) 03:33, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The presence of unacceptable sources is a failure condition for a draft. Interviews and company pressers are unacceptable sources. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 04:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

06:40:42, 9 October 2020 review of submission by 2605:E000:8504:E800:69A0:F175:8AC2:D47[edit]


2605:E000:8504:E800:69A0:F175:8AC2:D47 (talk) 06:40, 9 October 2020 (UTC) trigonella phoenum graecum:[reply]

06:43:52, 9 October 2020 review of submission by 45.251.65.207[edit]


Hi, I am editing the wiki page for my company. The page publish requested was rejected by "notability". I need some advice on how to rewrite the content or improve the quality of the page.

Thanks, Lance


45.251.65.207 (talk) 06:43, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you are User:Landzostar and simply forget to log in. Next Problem, if it is your Company, we are definitely in WP:PAID area. As for User:Landzostar/sandbox, what we would need right now evidence of WP:NCORP, i.e. Your WP:THREE best sources by your consideration, and then we can look further. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 08:47, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

06:48:30, 9 October 2020 review of submission by 2605:E000:8504:E800:69A0:F175:8AC2:D47[edit]


2605:E000:8504:E800:69A0:F175:8AC2:D47 (talk) 06:48, 9 October 2020 (UTC) trigonella phoenum graecum:[reply]

Hello, there are no edits from your IP besides the two from today. May I ask which draft you talk about, and what is your question so I can respond to it? Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 08:43, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

07:16:37, 9 October 2020 review of submission by Ashwin Kumar A P[edit]


The person about whom this article is, is a nationally renowned academic in India. He has headed the country's most prestigious Business School (IIM, Bangalore) and was a member of the Yashpal Commission, a Govt of India committee to rejuvenate higher education in the country. Ashwin Kumar A P (talk) 07:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Ashwin Kumar A P[reply]

12:04:08, 9 October 2020 review of draft by Marija W Marinkovic[edit]


Hello, I reсeived answer that our article is to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Can you help me what part of informations in our article I must to change?

Marija W Marinkovic (talk) 12:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

14:11:39, 9 October 2020 review of submission by Cledd[edit]

I'm not sure why the Local 338 RWDSU/UFCW page was rejected, because there are other local unions that have their own Wikipedia page, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1199SEIU_United_Healthcare_Workers_East https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFCW_Local_1776 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEIU_32BJ

I made the appropriate changes based on previous feedback. I was told that there weren't enough references in the article and after I updated it with news articles (because it lacked newsworthiness), there are now too many references. Is there something I can do that would get the page published? I also do not have any financial connection to the organization. Cledd (talk) 14:11, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cledd, New editors often confuse quantity of references with quality. There is a tightrope to be walked. If a reference fails WP:42 - a summary, not a policy - then it is probably no use.
Once a fact is verified then it is verified.
All we need is for you to show that the entity is notable. Often a smaller, tighter article, with fewer, better references is what is required Fiddle Faddle 15:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sneaky Sasquatch (game) declined[edit]

16:27:12, 9 October 2020 review of submission by Redpanda0310[edit]

I want help please. I understand I needed to cite more sources, I just didn't know where to put the in-line citations. Can anybody help me place the citations? Leave a message on my talk page, and I'll send you some possible sources and stuff. :> (The afc in question in Sneaky Sasquatch [Game].) redpanda0310 16:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC) redpanda0310 16:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

16:59:41, 9 October 2020 review of submission by Carthex[edit]


Carthex (talk) 16:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Carthex: Normally, a Help desk is a place where you come when you have a question. So may we start with your question please? Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:58, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wikipedia. I'm Resubmitting my article for review. I don't know why I keep getting declined — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carthex (talk • contribs) 12:40, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Carthex: Ah okay. thats something we can start with. First of all, lets ping @David.moreno72: so he can comment here if he wishes so. Not to the current draft version. The current draft has exactly one non-independent source and therefore currently doesn indicate how the subject meets Wikipedia:ENTERTAINER or WP:NPERSON. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:25, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply Victor Schmidt . I will be so glad for the assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carthex (talk • contribs) 14:50, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Previous review at Draft:Phycogenics[edit]

Editors recreated Draft:Phycogenics after it was previously deleted as a declined stale-draft and also filed a REFUND for the previous content. I revived that old history, so I'm done with admin side of things. I'm leaving it to AFC folks to revive (or not) any previous review/deletion tags from the previous attempt. DMacks (talk) 17:25, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks User:Timtrent! DMacks (talk) 03:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DMacks, easy enough to do and a pleasure to help. I think the requesting editor has an uphill struggle, and I hope they succeed Fiddle Faddle 07:35, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

20:06:01, 9 October 2020 review of submission by SpencerEC[edit]


SpencerEC (talk) 20:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC) Requesting a re-review because the subject is the only operating hospital in the U.S. that uses aversion therapy, making it unique. Information based on 3rd party sources. Verbiage is neutral and non-promotional. Purpose of the article is to provide neutral, 3rd party information about aversion therapy techniques for addiction.[reply]

I've took a look at it. Still no evidence of notability, in this case WP:NCORP (AFAIK there are no seperate criteria for hospitals). As for the sources:
Created with templates {{ORGCRIT assess table}} and {{ORGCRIT assess}}
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor.
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward ORGCRIT
http://www.williamwhitepapers.com/pr/AddictionTreatmentPrograms1840-1950.pdf Yes seems to be independent Yes Likely historically a reliable paper No Not even two full sentences. Probbably secondary, cant realy determine that.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1360-0443.1987.tb01479.x No Published by the organisation (Yust caóunt the ocurreence of First person pronouns) Yes Likely a reliable source, even if its a scan Yes About two pages No published by the hospital, therefore WP:PRIMARY
Still no evidence of any notability. I haven't looked further. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:52, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Victor Schmidt, I see the editor has self declared paid editing. and I feel paid editors are very much 'in a class of their own' when it comes to receiving help from volunteer editors. I view them as sufficiently competent to succeed or fail without help because they are paid. Bad ones may need to be assisted to leave, though Fiddle Faddle 07:38, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

21:42:55, 9 October 2020 review of draft by KellyChristineN[edit]


If I say "X was interviewed on Bloomberg" Without giving any more information than that, can I just link the interview on YouTube? There is no specific information or biased information being stated except what you can easily see with your own eyes. Also, if someone is named chairperson of a board, can I not use the primary source from the company? The company should know better than anyone who is on staff. It's simply verifying employment at that point.

I received a non-answer to this question so I'm asking it again. I AM NOT USING THE INTERVIEW AS EVIDENCE, I'm simply stating that an interview took place and linking it. The person who responded to my question completely glossed over it and I would like a legitimate answer to why I can't simply state a fact.

Thank you for elaborating on your original response.

KellyChristineN (talk) 21:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did give you a legitimate answer: If you cite them, they will likely cause any reviews to fail. Your goal in the drafting phase is to show how the subject is notable, and any sources that don't help with this goal are going to drag the draft down. (We also do not allow external links in the body of the article outside of citations.) —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 23:21, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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