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02:29:28, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Brett Pretty[edit]

I created the article in good faith and only used publicly available information from their website, Google, and the news publication it is mentioned. It was not intended to be a promotion or advertising. It is only supposed to describe the company, as it is portrayed in the industry and with what is available in the news and doing an internet search. They're a big player in Australia in terms of financial advice and stock advices, I use them myself and I believe they should be mentioned in case potentital customer would like to know more information about them. I'm happy to help update the content that seemed like an ad to you guys or even participate in making a new one. I just think it would be valuable to anyone out there to know more about them before they buy from them. Brett Pretty (talk) 02:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Pretty Wikipedia articles should not merely tell about the subject. That's considered promotional on Wikipedia. They should only summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage say about the subject, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability(in this case, a notable company). Wikipedia has no interest in helping potential customers of your company; this is an effort to write an encyclopedia of human knowledge for the benefit of humanity, not to just tell the world about companies. If you just want to tell the world about this company, you should use social media or its own website. If you work for this company, you must read and comply with the paid editing policy, a Terms of Use requirement. 331dot (talk) 09:19, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

03:15:33, 19 May 2020 review of submission by 71.104.11.211[edit]


71.104.11.211 (talk) 03:15, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


04:02:09, 19 May 2020 review of draft by Michellewiki1992[edit]


All of my references and sources are taken from government websites (Hong Kong and China) and news media, how come they are not powerful enough to prove? For the chinese one, I couldnt find any English version but people can use google translate. Please kindly tell me what kind of websites and sources are clarified as strong evident. Thank you Michellewiki1992 (talk) 04:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Michellewiki1992 Your draft needs to do more than just confirm the existence of the company and tell what it does. It needs to summarize what independent [{WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage say about this company, showing how it meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable company. 331dot (talk) 09:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

04:39:57, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Ying Pan[edit]

Hi, I've adjusted my article and add sources to the content. Although this is an article about company, it is written in a neutral perspective. Pages like ThoughtSpot and Andcards were also written in a neutral view instead of promoting, and they were accepted and published successfully. May I have your help to review my article? Thank you so much. Ying Pan (talk) 04:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


04:44:45, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Koto1749[edit]


Hi, my this draft was rejected yesterday for the reason of notability, but I added additional information to the draft today and I think it meets second criteria for musicians and ensembles of this page.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles Koto1749 (talk) 04:44, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was subsequently accepted. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 05:40:53, 19 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Sogand Kamranii[edit]


hello everyone , there is a famous Iranian actress with IMDb - Google Knowledge Panel - and many other news . i was create an article for Tina Akhondtabar but it doesnt accepted . please help me .

Sogand Kamranii (talk) 05:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sogand Kamranii IMDB is not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia, as it is user-editable. A Google Knowledge Panel is just composed of existing information and not a source itself. A Wikipedia article should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about an actress, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable actress. 331dot (talk) 14:37, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
See also the edit histories/logs of Tina Akhound-Tabar and Tina akhoondtabar, as well as Draft:Tina_Akhoondtabar which was rejected (not just declined) a few months ago. Sogand Kamranii, you should focus your activities on articles about notable subjects, instead. --bonadea contributions talk 09:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

05:42:05, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Sogand Kamranii[edit]

Duplicate helpdesk submission
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.




Sogand Kamranii (talk) 05:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

06:06:15, 19 May 2020 review of submission by JohnMabhegede[edit]


I would like to find out why my article was rejected. I got the response This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia

JohnMabhegede (talk) 06:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JohnMabhegede That's why it was rejected- your topic does not meet the Wikipedia definition of notability. 331dot (talk) 14:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:00:08, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Bluegene18[edit]

Hi. I feel like this new article was unfairly rejected, but I have modified it in any case to include even more neutral sources and more factual information which show the notability of the company. I did not feel that it was ever written from the viewpoint of the company, not least because I have nothing to do with them. I hope that this revised draft now meets the criteria. Thank you for your consideration. Bluegene18 (talk) 09:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bluegene18 Your draft was rejected, after being declined twice, meaning it will not be considered further. It does not appear that this company meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable company, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. The sources you offered appear to be press releases or routine business announcements, which do not establish notability. Please read Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 09:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

10:16:45, 19 May 2020 review of draft by MathsGeek14[edit]


I don't know how to format the algebraic symbol x. MathsGeek14 (talk) 10:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MathsGeek14:The problem of the matical x is not a big problem when using using the TeX extension of the Software behind Wikipedia. The bigger issiue is that your draft currently has zero reliable sources to allow readers to verify whats in there. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11:16:59, 19 May 2020 review of draft by Pkpunjab[edit]


My Draft:Jitendra_Soni is declined. I would like to know how to improve my draft and to get it published on wiki.

Pkpunjab (talk) 11:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Pkpunjab: Your query has already been answered on my talk page. You should not ask same question at different places. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 14:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

14:30:02, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Larisselava[edit]


I would like to request a re-review for Sedgwick Richardson submission, the information submitted are factual and non-promotional.

Larisselava (talk) 14:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Larisselava Your draft was rejected, not just declined, meaning it will not be considered further as there is little to no chance it can be improved sufficiently to meet standards. On Wikipedia, "promotional" does not just mean actively soliciting customers or selling something. It means merely telling about something. Wikipedia articles must do more than merely tell about something, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage(not brief mentions, routine announcements, or press releases) say about the subject, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability(in this case, the definition of a notable company).
If you work for this company, you must review and comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 14:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

15:46:33, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Mostfan2020[edit]

Dear WikiTeam, first of all, thanks for a quick review of my input. Two days ago I created an entry dedicated to the well-known Russian journalist Sergey Mostovshchikov. However it has appeared trickier than I thought to get it published. I agree in a way that the first version was opinionated. That is why I did my best to make it as neutral as possible. However as I resubmitted the second version, it was declined again. I can not really see why. There are no peacock terms there anymore. As for the links I have provided those available. Most of them are in Russian, because the person I am writing about comes from this country and the job he does is not related to foreign affairs. Maybe that is the problem. Is my understanding correct that Wikipedia can have multilingual entires on people who are not necessarily covered by the English-speaking media? I would be most grateful for your reply. Also, if there are any ideas how to improve the text, please let me know. Best regards Alex Mostfan2020 (talk) 15:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

16:30:48, 19 May 2020 review of draft by MichaelHolemans[edit]


Hey guys,

I submitted my article for review 2 weeks ago after (hopefully) adjusting and fixing all my errors you so helpfully pointed out. Due to some miscommunication the wrong draft got reviewed though, within half an hour of submitting it, which I quickly tried to fix and then resumbit. I think something might have gone wrong though and I'm not sure if my CBR article is now under review correctly...

Also, if there is anything else which I should change in the article, please let me know and I'll fix it asap. Thanks a bunch for the help!

MichaelHolemans (talk) 16:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was subsequently accepted. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

17:43:20, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Zayn51786[edit]

My page has been declined. Why has it been declined?

The page is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:MZA_Gamez_0786 Zayn51786 (talk) 17:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


My page has been declined. Why?

Zayn51786 (talk) 17:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Zayn51786. As explained on the draft, it has been declined because you are not notable (not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia). --Worldbruce (talk) 22:51, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

17:47:24, 19 May 2020 review of submission by Smokethatskinwagon[edit]


Your last reply makes ZERO sense. A category, is a category. It does not have any significance as to one being more important than another. if that where the case, why have nominations or awards. A nomination or award is recognition. I dispute your claim that just because it isn't a national personality award, that it doesn't matter. Your response and reasoning is discriminator, and biased.

I am asking for a higher review, from someone running Wikipedia, that is paid, and that isn't a volunteer.

Smokethatskinwagon (talk) 17:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We are all volunteers here, we all run Wikipedia, none of us are paid? Theroadislong (talk) 18:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you are genuinely looking for help, telling fellow reviewers they are discriminatory, biased or telling them to "fuck off" probably isn't a good start. Nor is repeatedly disputing "claims" instead of actually taking the time and care to understand our notability policies. In terms of our notability guidelines, there is a very clear distinction between being nominated for and winning an award. Even if the subject wins the award, that doesn't guarantee notability, as it's a very minor/specific award. It would be enough to warrant a reconsideration if and when they do win the award. Until then, this subject wholly fails our notability guidelines and won't be considered further. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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