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01:42:37, 6 November 2019 review of submission by PKeenan1[edit]


P. Andrews-Keenan 01:42, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

I'd like to remove the Chicago crusader reference from the draft page for Black Fine Art Month. I cannot find the entry now — Preceding unsigned comment added by PKeenan1 (talk • contribs) 01:42, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PKeenan1, I could not find the entry either. Have you previously edited it? Did you create it?Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 02:05, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@PKeenan1: Draft:Black Fine Art was deleted as a copyright violation. See also the reply to your question #14:44:04, 3 November 2019 review of submission by PKeenan1 --Worldbruce (talk) 02:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

03:49:18, 6 November 2019 review of draft by EMU FAM[edit]


I just would like to confirm that my article Draft:Branches school camp is not valid for submission due to it being too minor a topic worthy of its own Wikipedia article. And secondly, ask why I wasn't notified earlier when I had submitted the article on two other occasions that this article wasn't valid for publishing, I just ended up wasting a lot of time. - EMU FAM 6/11/2019 16:49 GMT+13 EMU FAM (talk) 03:49, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

EMU FAM, I think it is not worthy of a standalone article, as it is not notable. Any such information could just be merged into the school itself. An editor did warn you initially that the article might not be notable. But we generally don't just tell people to stop initially, we give them the benefit of the doubt. Oftentimes, articles that do not appear notable at the first review turn out to be notable after draftees find new sources. Alas, the opposite has happened to you. Even experienced editors have had that happen to them. Such are the travails of creating articles from scratch, and is a reason we often recommend new editors first edit existing articles to get a feel for things. But feel free to work on expanding the Wakatipu High School article, or any article that interest you! If you'd like further guidance before creating a future draft, you may wish to ask here first to see if the subject might be notable. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:08, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 04:28:08, 6 November 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by GouravSWS[edit]



GouravSWS (talk) 04:28, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GouravSWS, Lot of issues here. For starters, the lead seems to be a copyright violation. The tone is also highly promotional. There aren't enough sources. And no proof of notability. It just seems to be an ad, not an entry in an encyclopedia. To fix that, you must make the tone neutral, and find better sources. Also do not copy and past material into an article from an outside source, as that breaks copyright law. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:47, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

06:41:54, 6 November 2019 review of submission by TheAlexCohen[edit]

I would like to know why this was rejected? Was it simply because there was not enough information on the life of Alexander Cohen because my whole purpose of publishing this page was for it to go public and edit as long as it is public. Please let me know what I can do to grant the Great Alexander Cohen a Wikipedia page

TheAlexCohen (talk) 06:41, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheAlexCohen, Well one of the issues here is that you seem to be Cohen, or at least are closely connected. Note that we strongly discourage people from creating autobiographies. That would represent a conflict of interest, which requires certain disclosures (please click on the link and read what those disclosures are).
The main issue is that Cohen is just an average person like you or I. I don't have a page about myself, and neither do most folks. Only people who have received coverage from multiple reliable and independent sources (think articles in the New York Times) are considered "notable" and can have articles. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 07:51, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

08:27:57, 6 November 2019 review of draft by Khanadilaltaf[edit]


I had submitted this article for publishing and it was marked for speedy deletion. I have removed the objections and have checked it with Citation Bot as well as DAB solver for any problems. It is the perception of the deleting editor that I am trying to promote the pages cited, but I declare unequivocally that I neither have any connection or financial interest with sources cited. It is a new topic that the public should be aware of and only manufacturers of the product have published anything citable on the subject. Thus, I am left with the choice of either publishing them as citation or no citations at all.

Khanadilaltaf (talk) 08:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Khanadilaltaf, If a subject has not been covered by reliable sources, it is not notable, i.e. it is not fit for coverage. While the subject may be interesting, if it has not meet the WP:GNG it does not require an article. While perhaps not promoting any one thing or product, the tone is definitely promotional. Ensure that the tone is neutral. Ultimately: find at least 3 reliable, independent sources. If such sources cannot be found, the subject is likely not notable. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 08:57, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

09:03:57, 6 November 2019 review of draft by Kumargau[edit]

Kumargau (talk) 09:03, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have deleted the mainspace copy of the draft. In light of the paid editing issues, I believe Draft:Piramal Pharma Solutions needs to be reviewed and accepted by an experienced editor first. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

09:04:04, 6 November 2019 review of submission by Situle[edit]


Situle (talk) 09:04, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Situle, The article has no sources. At least 3 reliable and independent sources that discuss the subject with significant coverage will be needed to prove notability. See more at WP:BIO. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:39, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

11:43:00, 6 November 2019 review of draft by Qowa[edit]


This is a translated version from arabic wikipedia and article is based on a living person, who is a minister in united arab emirates

Qowa (talk) 11:43, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Qowa, You've stumbled upon the problem: he is a living person. Per WP:BLP, that means that the sourcing requirements are strict. The article has insufficient inline sources. It also does not have enough sources to show that he is notable per WP:BIO. The part about "has many identities" strikes me as odd too, perhaps a mistranslation? If not, that requires a very good source. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:37, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:10:36, 6 November 2019 review of submission by Alexander Andronkin[edit]

I have written the page content following your guidelines, and mirroring other pages which have been accepted by your platform. So I cannot see why you continue to reject my submission. Please can you give me specific pointers of what you would like me to add or remove, thank you. Or please give me the contact details of a managing editor to look into why I continue to be rejected when my content is the same or better than other Wiki pages, currently it seems unreasonably unfair. Alexander Andronkin (talk) 14:10, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Andronkin, There are no managing editors, we are all volunteers committed to building an encyclopedia. You might wish to read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS to understand why comparing your content to other content is a logical fallacy. Just because an article exists does not mean it passes muster. Many bad articles were created before the Articles for Creation process became standard, and have evaded detection. If you find an article that seems unfair, let us know and we'll take a look at it, as it likely does not meet policy either.
The company you are writing about is likely not notable. Only companies that have been covered in multiple reliable and independent sources can have articles. The sources shown did not meet that standard. Additionally, articles do not promote their subjects, Wikipedia is not an ad platform. Furthermore, if you are employed by SSLS, have a financial stake in the company, or have been paid by them in any way to write that article, you MUST disclose that per WP:PAID. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:24, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]


14:10:46, 6 November 2019 review of submission by Zippylips[edit]

New editor trying to submit an article about the new president of Hudson Valley Community College. The draft was rejected, not sure if it was for notability or for lack of reference. Any help appreciated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roger_A._Ramsammy


Zippylips (talk) 14:10, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zippylips, The issue here seems to be notability. I am unsure if they meet WP:BIO. Usually, that means at least 3 sources that are reliable, independent, and discuss the subject with significant coverage. If you believe you have 3 sources, you may wish to add them here . If you do not have 3 sources that meet WP:BIO, please look for more. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:33:09, 6 November 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Leporeanto[edit]


Hi, I would like to write a biography how should I do? Greetings, Antonio

Leporeanto (talk) 14:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Leporeanto, Howdy hello! Who would you like to write a biography about? Please note, autobiographies, and biographies of people you know personally, are strongly discouraged per WP:COI. Non-COI biographies must meet the requirements at WP:BIO, i.e. that they are notable. Only folks who have been the subject of multiple, reliable, independent sources usually qualify for an article. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:27, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:13:09, 6 November 2019 review of submission by Ach825125[edit]

Hello editor, I would like to know why its been declined? I also want to know what changes that I can make to be publish. I actually trying to make an biography of model. This is my first attempt. Everything in the article are true, so please advise on how to make a biography that can be publish to the public.

Thank you Sudarshan

Sudarshan Acharya (talk) 15:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ach825125, Biographies require good sourcing. Currently, you have no reliable sources. Neither YouTube or Wikipedia can be used as sources.You need coverage in newspapers, magazines, books, media outlets, that sort of thing. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

19:39:58, 6 November 2019 review of submission by UltraNightMist[edit]


UltraNightMist (talk) 19:39, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

UltraNightMist, A random YouTuber is not notable. Only folks who have been covered in multiple reliable and independent sources can have articles about them.Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 20:47, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

22:32:47, 6 November 2019 review of submission by Laurenlewis[edit]


I added the information requested by the reviewer, including the abstracting and indexing information.

Laurenlewis (talk) 22:32, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Laurenlewis: I've resubmitted the draft on your behalf. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:24, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

23:46:23, 6 November 2019 review of draft by Josanva[edit]


Hi, I'm requesting some help to be able to resubmit this article about author Miquel Reina. I recently got the message that the article was declined because the references I used were not enough. Can you please Google the author? He is a well-known author in many countries so I'm not sure what could I do to fix the article. Thanks.

Josanva (talk) 23:46, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Josanva, You've stumbled upon to the answer to your query: Google. If you can google and find him, you should be able to find reliable sources. Generally, a biography (per WP:BIO) requires at least 3 reliable, independent sources, that discuss the subject with significant coverage. Think of news stories, being written about in books, magazines, newspapers, etc. The article as is does not seem to have 3 sources that meet the requirements of WP:BIO, or the specific criteria WP:NAUTHOR (which is usually stricter than the normal bio requirement). Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 07:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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