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01:52:28, 13 November 2018 review of draft by 01:52:28, 13 November 2018 review of submission[edit]


I am requesting help because I do not believe this submission was correctly reviewed. i want "Kam King" footballer page to be accepted, please.

First, the reviewer notes that the submission lacks significant coverage in reliable, published sources. However, the article includes THREE references to an article specifically about SALMA OKONKWO, published by FORBES.com on 7/31/18 (see link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chloesorvino/2018/07/31/ghana-solar-farm-ubi-salma-okonkwo/#2d239cf61d24). The article was written by sr. reporter Chloe Sorvino but published by FORBES.com. Other sources footnoted in the submission include PETROL WORLD, a global subscription-based b2b magazine covering the petroleum industry, and MODERN GHANA, a recognized news site for the country of Ghana. As required, all of these publications are independent of Ms. Okonkwo and I believe meet the rest of your criteria for outside sources.

Second, when this article was first submitted in Fall, 2017, it met the objectivity requirement (as reviewed by the first reviewer), and the text has not changed, except with the addition of several facts not available in 2017 so we are confused by the note that it reads like an advertisement. Every fact is presented clearly and without editorial remarks. Adjectives are minimal and used only when necessary. The timeline is correct and straightforward. There is no subjective text or opinion.

Therefore, I would appreciate a new objective review as soon as possible. Thank you.

23.241.240.131 (talk) 01:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Forbes article is a solid start, but no matter how many times it is cited, it's still a single source. None of the other cited sources add anything significant about Okonkwo. If three articles independently and over a period of time went as deeply into the topic as the Forbes one, there would be no problem with notability. As it stands, however, I too would decline the draft.
Note that just because reviewers of the earlier Draft:Salma Okonkwo didn't mention notability when they declined it doesn't mean it hasn't always been one of the problems with the topic.
Much of the draft, such as the entire "other activities" section, cites no sources for its statements or misrepresents the sources. That can make it seem promotional. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

09:33:55, 13 November 2018 review of submission by KarenRutter[edit]


KarenRutter (talk) 09:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good day, I have been told that my Articles for Creation: International Federation of Workers' Education Associations (IFWEA) has been accepted at Articles for Creation. What further steps must I take to have the article made live? Please can you guide me? Best regards, Karen

KarenRutter (talk) 09:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

International Federation of Workers’ Education Associations has been published and is live. You do not need to do anything more. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 10:49, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

12:27:52, 13 November 2018 review of submission by Agatanowa[edit]

Hi a added my own work on wiki article and reciewved message it will be deleted, this is my own work. It exist also on another page where i added it myself. wiki assumes it was copied and copywight vandalised because of its apperance on another www. This is a mistake. Dont selete my photo please. Agatanowa (talk) 12:27, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials and follow the instructions. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 13:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Agatanowa: (ec) If you are referring to photographs c:File:Agata Nowa by Tucki.jpg and c:File:Nowa, 2018.jpg, they are not on Wikipedia, but on Wikimedia Commons, and any discussion of them should take place there. If you are Agata Nowa, then unless you used a self-timer or selfie stick, it's highly unlikely that any photograph of you is your own work - you were not the photographer, and it's the photographer who holds the copyright.
This help desk is the place to ask questions about Draft:Agata Nowa. Keep in mind that Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:01, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:05:26, 13 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Sabinablum[edit]


Hi, my article has been deleted for copyrighted content, but I don't get it because I put all the source where the information was from. Do I need the artist permission to use information from the artist's web site?. Also, can I have pls back my article so I can adjust it and improve it?

Sabinablum (talk) 14:05, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Which draft are you referring to? ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 14:09, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: It is Draft:Jacob Gils. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 14:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh thanks. Yes you may use sources, but you cannot direct copy and paste from it and form an article. That's a copyvio and may lead to a block. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 14:24, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You may not have the page restored. You may rewrite the page in your own words. Legacypac (talk) 14:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

14:36:59, 13 November 2018 review of submission by MostafaAdelSaf[edit]


I recently submitted a draft (Ahmed Farid) and it was rejected then reviewed and accepted. When I search on google for the name of the article, it doesn't show normal wikipedia, it shows something called Everybodywiki! I'd like to know what's wrong, please. MostafaAdelSaf (talk) 14:36, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New pages go through New Page Patrol (a review process) before being indexed by search engines. NPP may take several months. Wikipedia is free to reuse, and other websites republish our articles, which is what you are seeing. Legacypac (talk) 14:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • It can take up to 90 days for a new article to show up on Google. What you are seeing is a "mirror site" that copies Wikipedia content. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 14:50, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

15:07:54, 13 November 2018 review of draft by Glazaunders[edit]


I am concerned that this article may not be coming from a neutral tone still. I revised the article to try to change all the language to neutral, but I want an independent user to tell me if there are still any problematic phrases, and if so, what they are. Glazaunders (talk) 15:07, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You should not be writing about yourself/family members. Follow WP:COI if you insist on doing this. Legacypac (talk) 15:12, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 17:22:56, 13 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Passion d[edit]


Hi there,

I have submitted an article but it was not accepted the first time. Therefore, I have had it revised and resubmitted. However, it is taking quite a bit of time to get back a response/notification as to whether it has been accepted or not.

Can you please let me know what the reason might be or how long it normally takes to get back an answer.

I would appreciate your reply.

Many thanks.


Passion d (talk) 17:22, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Passion d, Good job taking the advice and applying it to fixing the draft. It can take up to 7 weeks for review but it can usually be a lot shorter. In the mean time you can keep fixing your draft up to ensure it passes GNG. If you have anymore questions you can ask me or other AFCR. Good luck. JC7V (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 19:27:58, 13 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by 68.103.78.155[edit]


Can you create the 2019 NCAA Division I Baseball season article please because they I Put 5 References on it and move it from the draft page to the Article Page please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 19:27, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

68.103.78.155 (talk) 19:27, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For the third time. No. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 19:39, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@68.103.78.155 even though you got a no, you can still improve existing articles on baseball topics and if you need questions on how, see the Teahouse or Help Desk and people there will be more than happy to assist you. JC7V (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

20:03:39, 13 November 2018 review of draft by Phuebi[edit]


Hi, I didn't create the page "V.League_Division_1_Women's". There are some things wrong with it that I don't know how to fix. Eg., the league is divided into Eastern and Western Conferences. So the "League table/Standings" Area is wrong. I don't know how to fix that by making a new table. Also, the standings change every time a game is played so how can you reference that?

I don't know or care anything about the stadiums. Can that be "commented out" without removing it so that the person who did create it can continue with it?

Whose responsibility is it to update the match scores all the time? I can't commit to it.

This article was rejected for lack of sources so I added some. How do I know if it's good enough.

btw - V.League Division 1 Women's is a sub-category of V.League (Japan) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V.League_(Japan)>. That article is therefore misleading. Not sourced very well.

Have a great day!

ps - you instruct to "MAKE SURE TO CLICK THE "Save page" BUTTON BELOW OR YOUR REQUEST WILL BE LOST!!!" but I don't see any SAVE PAGE button

Phuebi (talk) 20:03, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Phuebi Greetings to you. See below
  1. Table - if you want to learn about inserting/creating a table, pls see Help:Table for instructions.
  2. Reference/Sources - independent, WP:Reliable (secondary) sources are used to for referencing content/info added. Homepage, user generated content site, sources associated with the subject, etc are considered primary sources and are not reliable/independent.
  3. Update/adding/deleting content - Draft articles and articles in main space have NO owner in Wikipedia; however the creator of the article is recorded in the page. For such any ::#:editor can add the info as long as proper reference is provided.
  4. Save the edit - when an editor has finished their edit and click "publish changes" on the top right corner of the page, a "Save your changes" window will appear. Enter a brief summary edit info on the rectangular box and click "publish changes" on the top right of the window. When you have done that, that means you have save your edit. Hope this help. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

20:08:22, 13 November 2018 review of draft by Anna.nicklin[edit]


I struggle with adding a company logo correctly, and with the right copy right permissions. As a company we own the rights, but it seems I may have uploaded under the wrong template or space or with insufficient credentials. Is there a guide specifically for company pages assets like adding logo to a Infobox? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nouryon_Logo_Button_WhiteOrange.png#/media/File:Nouryon_Logo_Button_WhiteOrange. Anna.nicklin (talk) 20:08, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page deleted as Spam G11 Legacypac (talk) 06:46, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

21:20:53, 13 November 2018 review of submission by JoIIygreen[edit]


I would like a re-review of my article for Heart to Heart Counseling Center. I was basing the information off of the content which was listed on their website. I have since removed all of the content that was deemed to be promotional (pretty much everything about their products and services) and left only the history of the counseling center and Doug Weiss.

I feel like this article is necessary to the completion of Wikipedia because Doug Weiss already has a wiki page, so this page would complete his bio about where he works.

Please let me know what you think of the revised article. Thank you.

JoIIygreen (talk) 21:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

JoIIygreen Good day. Pls note each article need to meet the notability requirement and the content is support by independent, reliable (secondary) sources in significant coverage in order to merit a page in Wikipedia and not inherit by association. Secondly, the sources you provided are not secondary sources but primary and they can NOT demonstrate the notability of notability of an organisation. Lastly, Wikipedia can NOT be the source - pls see WP:CIRCULAR. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:37, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA Thanks for your feedback. I updated the sources again to credible, primary sources like Rehab.com, Daystar TV, 7NEWS, and the Colorado Springs Independent. Is that enough? I was using this Wiki article here (AASECT) as a reference and don't see how mine is much different. JoIIygreen (talk) 23:53, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
JoIIygreen First of all, pls read again what determine a primary source vs secondary source. Secondly what you provided are secondary sources but pls note the sources need to talk about the subject( Heart to Heart Counseling Center) in length and in depth and note merely passing mentioned. You sources do not talk about he subject. Thirdly, sources involved interview with the subject /associated with the subject are considered primary source and can NOT be use to demonstrate the subject notability due to the sources are not independent. The page can not be accepted to Wikipedia main space as its fails to meet the notability guidlines. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

22:21:02, 13 November 2018 review of draft by Jdriboflavin[edit]


Hi – I'm a contributor to the open source software project referenced in this article. It looks like the article was submitted originally by someone affiliated with a commercial entity, and then that commercial entity was confused with the open source software project itself.

It looks like the article has been stripped of those references and now points to a bunch of reliable non-commercial sources that talk about the project. But it seemed like a good idea for someone without a COI to review this before it is submitted.

Thank you.

Jdriboflavin (talk) 22:21, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Even non-commercial projects need to pass the notability guidelines. And I am not convinced this one does. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 10:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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