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Request on 06:05:28, 29 September 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by SLVenter

• SLVenter (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:RePhotoSA (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

HI guys, thanks for your help so far but I am getting really frustrated. I don't understand why my article keeps on getting rejected when it is so similar to other articles on Wikipedia? First my refs were not good enough, and now the ones I used, are not enough. I re-worked the entire article because I was told that it sounded too much like an advertisement (which, when I re-read it with that in mind, I would agree). But now, I don't understand - there are other articles on Wikipedia that also only have one or two refs cited with multiple other external links just like mine - Why are they good enough and mine is not? There is not much info published on rePhotoSA besides for the PCU 5 year review and the website (which I cannot use? Although I see many other articles that cite websites too). I don't know how to move forward with this? Can I cite popular articles written about the project? I know that the information is correct and true. Can we not publish as it is and add more refs later on when more is published on the project? Or maybe is it better to cut the article down to its bare basics i.e. just a definition and collaborating institutions until more is published? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again. SLVenterSLVenter (talk) 06:05, 29 September 2017 (UTC) SLVenter (talk) 06:05, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi SLVenter. The flaw in your reasoning is the assumption that the existence of an article means it's "good enough" for the encyclopedia. It could mean only that no one has gotten around to deleting it yet. Wikipedia is forever a work in progress. It contains high-quality and low-quality content. The argument that articles exist that don't meet the policies and guidelines, so more such articles should be created, is not one that will convince experienced editors. The essay "Other stuff exists" may make it clear why.

Wikipedia prefers scholarly sources, but it's okay to cite articles from the popular (i.e. non-academic) press, especially high-quality mainstream publications such as The Guardian, New Scientist, Time, and the like. Independent sources should support the bulk of any article. You may also cite non-independent sources, including rePhotoSA's website, but non-independent sources do nothing to demonstrate notability. If very little information has been published about rePhotoSA except in non-independent sources, then it is not notable and there should not be an encyclopedia article dedicated to it, no matter how brief. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

21:35:16, 29 September 2017 review of draft by Chiu8ka

• Chiu8ka (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:World Federation of Neurology (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi. I am trying to submit my Draft:World Federation of Neurology page for review. When I click on the button, the message tells me to click Save Page button below to submit. However, this button is not there. Please help. Many thanks. Chiu Chiu (talk) 21:35, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Chiu. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. I just looked at your page and the button is there -- it's the small rectangular one that says "Submit your draft for review!" and is located at the bottom of the large blue box. If it really isn't there, please let us know. NewYorkActuary (talk) 21:41, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi NewYorkActuary. Thanks for getting back to me and sorry I was not clearer. When I click that button to "Submit your draft for review!", I am redirected to another page that says:

"Just press the "Save changes" button below without changing anything! Doing so will submit your article submission for review. Once you have saved this page you will find a new yellow 'Review waiting' box at the BOTTOM of your submission page. If you have submitted your page previously, either the old pink 'Submission declined' template or the old grey 'Draft' template will still appear at the top of your submission page, but YOU SHOULD IGNORE it. Again, please don't change anything in this text box. Just press the "Save changes" button below. "

However the "Save Changes" button is not there to press and the "Save Changes" link at the top of the page is greyed out. The page is otherwise empty without the actual content, instead there are rows of ↓ characters. Is it because the article is already in the review queue? Thank you in advance for your help. Chiu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiu8ka (talk • contribs) 06:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Chiu8ka I have fixed the submission problem and reviewed the draft. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:17, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Roger (Dodger67). Thank you sincerely for sorting out the submission link and for your review. I will hope to establish further references and otherwise re-edit to remove any facts whose references I cannot find over the next week or two. Unfortunately it may be the case that many of the references are lost in time and before the Internet was around to record. Much appreciated nevertheless. If I get stuck, I will hope to get back to you :) Chiu (talk) 08:24, 3 October 2017 (GMT)