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September 15

Arnold Anthony Schmidt Deletion

A clarification: those are not published reviews, but full-length academic articles on Byron, Wordsworth, etc. Also note the film/tv work on Oscar/Emmy nominated projects, also theatre work.

   Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:22, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

   Delete. One book Byron and the Rhetoric of Italian Nationalism with a few published reviews isn't enough by itself for WP:AUTHOR (I think that needs more than one, and his only other book-length publication is an edited volume). And although some fall only a little short, nothing else in the article rises to the level of notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:37, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
   Delete does not pass notability guidelines as either a writer or an academic.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:26, 10 September 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fussy Scholar (talk • contribs)  

Hi Fussy Scholar. I gather that a draft you submitted to Articles for creation, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Arnold Anthony Schmidt, was reviewed and declined four times in August–September 2013, and eventually deleted as abandoned in April 2014. At some point the article Arnold Anthony Schmidt was created. It was recently nominated for deletion. After a week of discussion, the consensus was unanimous that it should be deleted, and it was.

This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. The topic of deleted articles is outside our scope. You may find the essay Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted? helpful. It explores what you can do when an article you created is deleted. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:22, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

11:04:22, 15 September 2017 review of submission by Monicamorrison

• Monicamorrison (talk · contribs)

Page was deleted and I would like to continue working on it as the subject has launched a new web site Monicamorrison (talk) 11:04, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Monicamorrison has requested undeletion of G13'd Draft:Christiane Stolhofer at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion, which is the proper procedure. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:40, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

09:05:47, 15 September 2017 review of submission by Cmljones

• Cmljones (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:C. Michial Jones (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello I submitted the Article and it was rejected due to citations, I have added several additional citations (64, so far), but was wondering what else I could do to get the article accepted and to make it better. Your advise would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

@Cmljones: Sorry if you are getting mixed messages. Initially, the lack of citations led to an evaluation that more citations were needed. The second review used the available citations to say that they did not seem to add up to what is needed for notability. It looks like there are three different career aspects on which notability could be judged: as a martial artist, as a law enforcement officer, and as a writer. Sulfurboy's assessment was that the needed coverage was not there on any of these fronts.

Unfortunately, adding even more citations is not helping this problem. There are now so many (and so many which are not easy to verify online) that you've made the reviewer's job more difficult. If you are unwilling to accept Sulfurboy's assessment, I suggest that you best approach is to review the notability criteria carefully and bring just three citations here to the help desk to address just the notability question. Doing it here will leave a record of what was determined that you can point to in a comment in your draft. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:56, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

I strongly support what jmcgnh says. References are judged on quality, not quantity. If you have found sources that establish the subject's notability, let the reviewer see them; don't hide them in a huge pile of garbage. Maproom (talk) 22:20, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

15:25:25, 15 September 2017 review of submission by PointOfPresence

• PointOfPresence (talk · contribs)
  • User:PointOfPresence/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have just submitted an article for review and I see that I am advised to move it to the draft namespace. I am not sure what this is or what I should do. I believe I already gave my article a title when I submitted it, but maybe I didn't. Can you please advise? Thanks

PointOfPresence (talk) 15:25, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@PointOfPresence: It's fine where it is, the reviewer will move it if it's ready and the name is clear. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:40, 15 September 2017 (UTC)