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02:02:53, 25 February 2017 review of submission by Littlemissphoneface[edit]


I don't understand why it says that I did not use the correct code for the reference. That is why I edited it so many times.

Littlemissphoneface (talk) 02:02, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Littlemissphoneface:, like the red text on your draft says, whenever you use a "ref" tag to start a footnote, you must use a "/ref" tag to close that same footnote. I see you've erased your draft, but if you want to go back to working on it you can just click the History tab, and view/edit any past version of the draft.
That said, all your citations are to the subject's own website, but you need WP:Third-party sources like news/journal articles to establish objective facts about her. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:33, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why her website is the only reference that you saw. I attempted to include references to two different articles about her. If that didnt show up I have no idea why. I also made a hyperlink at the end of the last draft to another Wikipedia article that mentions her. These are the other two references that I used

http://cre8con.com/cth_speaker/beth-harrington-2016/

http://www.pfppublishing.com/Beth_Harrington/default.html

You didn't see them in any of my previous drafts? The are links to articles about her, not to her website.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlemissphoneface (talk • contribs) 22:55, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Littlemissphoneface: Cre8con and pfppublishing are not independent of Harrington. Speaker bios are routinely provided by the speaker, they aren't the product of a team of independent, fact-checking researchers. The same goes for publisher bios. The publisher has a financial incentive to promote the subject. You may use such sources, but they do nothing to establish notability, and the bulk of any article should come from independent sources. The kind to use are:
  • Mathias, Elizabeth (March 1989). "Ave Maria: The Story of the Fisherman's Feast. 1986/Hello Columbus!". American Anthropologist. 91 (1): 268–269. JSTOR 679830.
  • Del Giudice, Luisa (Spring 1997). "Review: Moveable Feast By Beth Harrington". Western Folklore. 56 (2): 186–188. JSTOR 1500211.
  • Garofalo, Denise A. (15 May 1997). "The Blinking Madonna & Other Miracles". Library Journal. Vol. 122, no. 9. pp. 115–116.
  • Albright, Carol Bonomo (Winter 1998). "Review: The Blinking Madonna by Beth Harrington". Italian Americana. 16 (1): 99–100. JSTOR 29776479.
  • "unknown". The Independent Film & Video Monthly. 2003. pp. 13, 15–16. {{cite magazine}}: Cite uses generic title (help)
  • Atkins, John (July 2011). "The Winding Stream". Maverick. No. 108. Maidstone, Kent. p. 40–41. ISSN 1477-8173.
  • Bernstein, Paula (18 September 2015). "The Challenge of Making a Music Documentary and Why 'The Winding Stream' Took 12 Years to Make". IndieWire.
  • Hewitt, Scott (14 November 2015). "Bits 'n' Pieces: A winding tale of country music royalty". The Columbian.
  • Mechanic, Michael (15 January 2016). "Before Taylor Swift and Shania Twain, There Were Sara and Maybelle Carter". Mother Jones.
  • Higgins, Lisa L. (Spring 2016). "Review: The Winding Stream: The Carters, The Cashes And The Course Of Country Music By Beth Harrington". Journal of American Folklore. 129 (512): 247–249. JSTOR 10.5406/jamerfolk.129.512.0247.
You've chosen a promising topic, one that Wikipedia should have an article on, so I hope you stick with it even if it ends up being more work than you expected. To get access to the off-line sources, ask at a good library (maybe a research university), request at WP:RX, or email me. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:55, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the suggestions, I'll probably end up using them, but what I didn't understand is that those references that I mentioned weren't even seen on the draft by the last person who responded. I wanted to understand why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlemissphoneface (talk • contribs) 21:28, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Omitting the closing </ref> tag or using a malformed closing tag like <ref> or </ref creates display problems that could have caused MatthewVanitas to miss cre8con and pfppublishing. WP:REFB can help you with any reference syntax problems. --Worldbruce (talk) 21:48, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I did come across the indiewire article before you mentioned it, but I had no idea that JSTOR would contain any reviews about her work at all. I'll try to include that. Hopefully this will be my final draft before it is accepted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.61.14.199 (talk) 00:43, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

06:30:21, 25 February 2017 review of submission by 117.211.103.176[edit]


This is first I have tried to write something about the school I am working in. I am new to this totally. I need your help to recreate this page with all the necessary changes needed.

Hello @117.211.103.176:, did you read the comments at top? You draft lacks any WP:Sourcing whatsoever. I suggest you take a look at WP:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines to get some ideas of what to improve. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:26, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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