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Article turned down[edit]

I don't understand the comment. I sourced everything in the article. If there isn't a source on something in the bio, it's sourced in the writing section.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Amy_Greene_(author) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdamGreene13 (talkcontribs) 02:29, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are two issues. Firstly, entire sections don't cite any sources. Especially for biographies of living persons you should always cite the sources right where they are used; see WP:Referencing for beginners on how to easily do so. Secondly, several of your sources aren't independent of Greene or not reliable. This includes Amazon, for example, but also Greene's own op-eds and her Glamour article. You should remove those. Huon (talk) 03:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

<Removed a complete copy of the entire draft> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.216.3.233 (talk) 06:25, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not copy the whole draft here - we can find it with the link in the heading. Do you want to ask a question about it? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:14, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

how to re submit the editing page[edit]

hi there:

I was finishing editing some points on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/nysunworks how can I re-submit for further review?

(Roger0206 (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC))[reply]

You deleted the review template, it contains information about the review and a "click here" link to resubmit it - I put it back.
Please take care that you do not delete any review templates as they serve as a track record of previous reviews. That way reviewers can see if the problems identified in previous reviews have been addressed, and if not, they can give you additional assistance to resolve them. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How do you see the reviewer's comments or details for why it was declined?[edit]

Hi, Wiki newbie here, trying to understand specific details for why an article was declined.

-->How can I see the specific comments for an article that a reviewer has made? Reviewer says 'need verifiable sources.' There are several sources mentioned.

-->Is there a way I can find out which claims need additional support?

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Electronic_trial_master_file_(eTMF) Cogitari (talk) 16:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC)cogitari[reply]

The reviewer's comments are in the gray box within the "submission declined" message box. I believe you saw them. The reviewer didn't leave more specific comments.
There are several sources, but firstly, most of the draft's content doesn't cite any sources at all, and secondly, the given sources are all primary sources, the websites of organizations promoting eTMF. Wikipedia content should be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as articles in newspapers or reputable magazines, or maybe peer-reviewed papers about the topic. Some highlights that definitely would require a source include: "Organizations adopt eTMF systems to make the management of clinical trial master file easier...", "In order to facilitate clinical trial process automation, eTMF applications should be built on the principal of Interoperablility...", "As of May 2013, the CareLex eTMF ontology was one of the most popular biomedical ontologies at NCBO's BioPortal website, ranking in the top 10% of over 500 biomedical ontologies on BioPortal." Right now this draft reads more like a CareLex advertisement than an encyclopedia article. Huon (talk) 18:00, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wikipedia,

I am new to article writing and am currently working on a piece called Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Chi-Dooh (Skip) Li. Whilst writing, I hit save page every time before I clicked the show preview button. Does that mean that the page was submitted for review dozens on times while I was in the process of writing it? If so, please disregard all of my previous submissions and just look at the most recent which I just submitted. I'm sorry if I caused an awful lot of trouble.

Thanks,

Eric Parker

EricthomasparkerEricthomasparker (talk) 22:24, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The draft is submitted for review only once, and it was created only after this help request. The page at Chi-Dooh (Skip) Li by now has been deleted, so I can't tell whether it was submitted for review repeatedly. Huon (talk) 23:06, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Huon,

Do you know if it is currently under review? It says that it is under the "Review Waiting" stage, though you mentioned it has been deleted. If it has been deleted do I need to re-submit it? If not, is there anything I can do to improve this submission to ensure that it is accepted?

Thanks

Ericthomasparker (talk) 03:01, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The draft is correctly submitted for review. What was deleted was a live article on the same topic; that's not related to the draft's review process. The draft doesn't need to be resubmitted.
That said, the draft will probably be declined because it doesn't show that Li has been the subject of significant coverage in third-party sources; most of your sources are primary sources such as Li's law firm or articles written by Li. Wikipedia requires WP:Independent sources both to allow our readers to verify the content and to establish that the subject is notable enough for an article in the first place. So citing newspaper articles about Li, or articles about him in reputable magazines, would be necessary to ensure that the article is accepted. Huon (talk) 04:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I've included another reference to an article from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. Hopefully that does enough to beef it up! If not, let me know and I can continue to work on it. I really appreciate your help.

Ericthomasparker (talk) 16:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How to edit[edit]

I have just create and submit an article for review. How can I make some changes on that articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samratsubedi (talkcontribs) 23:58, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can edit the article via the "edit" tab at the top of the page. Huon (talk) 04:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]