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The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 15:07, 20 December 2018 [1].

Melodrama (Lorde album)[edit]

Nominator(s): De88 (talk) 02:28, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about Melodrama, the second studio album from New Zealand singer-songwriter Lorde (Ella Yelich-O'Connor). It was released on 16 June 2017 to widespread acclaim, earning a nomination for Album of the Year at the 60th Annual Grammy Awards. The majority of the album was co-written and co-produced by Lorde and Jack Antonoff over the course of four years shortly after the release of the singer's debut studio album. It performed moderately on national charts, earning gold certifications in several countries. De88 (talk) 02:28, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Media are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:16, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Aoba47[edit]

I believe this part (The album, which was recorded after Lorde's relationship with her long-time boyfriend James Lowe broke down in 2015) could be reduced down to something like (The album, recorded after Lorde’s breakup with long-time boyfriend James Lowe in 2015) to make it more concise.
I do not believe the reference in the lead is necessary. I understand you are using it for the quote, but I am uncertain if the quote is really necessary for the lead. The quote and reference are great for the body of the article itself, but I think you can safely paraphrase this without losing anything.
I have been told by some reviewers that the link for “critics” is not necessary, but I will leave that to your preference.
Link Lorde on the first mention in the body of the article.
Why are four references necessary for this sentence (Melodrama was released through Universal, Lava and Republic Records on 16 June 2017.)? Four seems to be a lot just for the release date and the record labels.
I am slightly confused by this part ("Perfect Places" was inspired after the deaths of David Bowie and Prince occurred, two musicians Lorde states were the most influential while recording Melodrama.) as it could read one of two ways. One being that they were the most influential for the recording of the album or the most influential in the world while the album was being recorded. I am assuming you mean the first as the second one is a bold claim that I doubt could be fully supported. Maybe something like “the most influential for the recording of Melodrama.).
How have your structured the “Critical response” subsection? I would like to hear your perspective, as it seems somewhat random to me, in terms of concepts/ideas. A stronger structure for this would make it appear more like a narrative than a random assortment of critics and their quotes.

Wonderful work with the article. Once my comments are addressed, I will support this for promotion. Have a great rest of your weekend! Aoba47 (talk) 06:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@De88: Any updates on this? Aoba47 (talk) 18:50, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: I apologize for never responding to these suggestions. At the moment, I am completing college finals which has derailed any progress on the article. After next week, I will devote my attention to polishing it and making it finer. Thank you for your comments and input. De88 (talk) 20:12, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I just wanted to check in with you about it. Good luck with your finals! Aoba47 (talk) 20:25, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I just finished polishing the article. Thank you again for your helpful suggestions! De88 (talk) 09:36, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by MaranoFan[edit]

This is one of my favorite albums in recent years. Kudos on getting it to good topic status!

"The album, which was recorded after Lorde's relationship with her long-time boyfriend James Lowe broke down in 2015" -- Why is this in the lead? It would make sense if the followup sentence said it revolves around the themes of love or relationships but currently it just talks about a party

This piece of information is vital to the article—particularly the lead—because Lorde cited this as one of the main inspirations for writing this record. It serves to provide context about its description of solitude.

"During her writing sessions," -- Should be changed to "During the album's writing sessions" or "During the writing sessions"
"Interviewed by the publication, Lorde says Melodrama is not simply a "breakup album"" -- "says" is present tense but the interview happened in the past
Why is the songs section split up randomly into two sections?

I felt it was necessary to split the section as there was a substantial amount of information in place. Splitting it let the article breathe and create a balance. It also helps the reader know the midway point.

"The website featured a short clip of Lorde sitting in a car eating and drinking while a piano-backed track played in the background" -- There are about four missing commas in this sentence

I fail to see where these four commas need to be inserted. I will admit that the sentence itself sounds awkward but commas do not make sense in this context.

"According to Fact magazine, the clip was also broadcast on New Zealand's major television channels." -- This is not a subjective opinion, its a fact. We do not need it attributed to the magazine.
"It was commercially successful, earning platinum in the United States and a triple platinum certification in Australia" -- You should remove that it was commercially successful, because its a subjective opinion. Also "earning platinum in the United States" should be changed to "earning a platinum certification in the United States"

As it stands, I can't support this for promotion to FA status but won't oppose yet. --N Ø 11:30, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Officially, but regrettably since I love the album, opposing this since clearly nothing is being done to address the concerns I raised. And these concerns aren't even the end of it since there's other problems with the article.--N Ø 16:53, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for not getting back to you. I responded to another user who left suggestions. At the moment, I am completing finals at college which has derailed any progress on the article. I will get back to it next week. De88 (talk) 21:33, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry I missed that! No worries though, I'll strike the oppose once the issues are addresed. Cheers!--N Ø 05:09, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator comment - This has been open for many weeks without any declaration of support for promotion. Therefore, I will be archiving it shortly and it may be re-nominated after the customary two-week waiting period. In the mean time, please action feedback as appropriate. --Laser brain (talk) 15:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. --Laser brain (talk) 15:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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