User talk:Valenciano/Archive 13

Anti-vandalism barnstar

Hello! I saw your anti-vandalism edit on the Woodstock North High School page today. I really appreciated your work in getting rid of this vandalism and wanted to give you a barnstar for it! :) Snowsky Mountain (talk) 22:18, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
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Open Episcopal Church

Hi, I think you have tried to help in bringing what you have termed an 'edit war' to an end on the Open Episcopal Church entry. I did not know about the rules to which you refer, so it has been helpful to discover this. However, Gorilla has posted their false entry again. Given what you have written, I think you have indicated, I must not remove it again, but what else can I do to stop this malicious editor continuing to vandalise the page please? Integrity4488hope (talk) 22:02, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi. Despite attempts by Integrity4488 to redact factual information that has been added, no more attempts will be made by Gorilla1978 to reverse Integrity4488's erroneous and inaccurate redactions and additions as the subsequent edit warring is not helpful to Wikipedia. But be aware that the redactions and additions by Integrity4488 that Gorilla1978 has objected to are misleading and inaccurate. This means that the page is compromised as a resource if Integrity4488's editing is restored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorilla1978 (talk • contribs) 09:30, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi. Attempts have been made to add information that is factually verifiable and true and Integrity4488 has been redacting it continuously. There is evidence to support all of the information that has been added regarding the 2014 events which led to lots of people leaving the OEC. If this information needs to be verified by an audit trail of emails then it can be. And indeed other evidence too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorilla1978 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

@Gorilla1978: the problem I had with your edits were additions like this: "However, his literary tour de force must be his 2017 blog "How to Cope with Hot Nights", which stresses the importance of nudity in the bedroom on those sticky summer evenings. This blog article will doubtless have saved many from the misery of sweaty armpits and crotches."

Does that sound to you like the type of information that should be in a serious encyclopedia? Not to me, it sounds like the type of commentary I'd expect to find in an opinion piece in "popular"/"yellow" press or on a blog.

You're totally right that you haven't been the only one doing this, looking through the edits of you and Integrity4488hope I find additions of the following commentary....

"The fissiparous nature of a smaller jurisdiction, lacking the stability that stipends and in service benefits offer, have seen various individuals and groups exodus the church."

"The church has maintained a stable and growing core of committed clerics"

"The fissiparous nature of a smaller jurisdiction, lacking the proper accountable leadership of many mainstream churches offer ....makes the church vulnerable to archbishops who have little self-awareness or self-discipline."

All of that is pure POV and editorialising. When making additions you both need to stick to what reliable sources say and report what they say in a neutral, dispassionate tone, backing up what you say by linking to those sources. Most important, though, is that you both stop edit warring, as that could lead to you both being blocked under the WP:3RR rule. Follow the steps at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution: if someone reverts you, go to the article talk page, in this case Talk:Open_Episcopal_Church and try and find a compromise. If that doesn't work, you can ask for a third opinion and then the next stage would be Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard. If you're stuck, you're both welcome to ask me, I hadn't heard of the Open Episcopal Church before yesterday, so I don't have any horse in that race so to speak. Valenciano (talk) 16:31, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks. Gorilla1978 accepts that the edit you cite above is judged by you as an editor to be of editorial tone and so Gorilla1978 accepts its withdrawal. However the important edit made by Gorilla1978 was the original one that contained important details about people leaving the church in 2014. This text was based on fact and had no subjective commentary in it at all. Integrity4488hope falsely claimed this text was subjective and then redacted it without legitimate reason. Gorilla1978 does not consoder dialogue with Integrity4488hope to be of any value due to the latter's user's inability to distinguish subjective from objective text, or indeed to understand the very nature of historicity or how to substantiate arguments. So Gorilla1978 will refrain from making any more edits but states on record that the edits in question made by the holder of username Integrity4488hope are inaccurate or misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorilla1978 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Question

Hi! It's been a while. Could you tell me the :en:wiki procedure to remove a-not-very-argumented template:NPOV tag? Regards.--Asqueladd (talk) 22:01, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Asqueladd. Generally, follow the guidance here: Template:POV#When_to_remove. If you give me the article in question, I can have a look. Valenciano (talk) 08:44, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi, thanks! If you want to take a look, it's Hispanidad.--Asqueladd (talk) 10:09, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

English or WP?

Yes, you're correct - and your new change is a great solution. - Snori (talk) 20:06, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Plural of "ABS" is the same as the plural of "ATM" ("ATMs"), etc.

I started a discussion about pluralizing "ABS" as "ABSs"--that is, "anti-lock braking systemS" the same way as we pluralize "ATM" as "ATMs," etc. Will you please show this other editor why that's correct with me?

Thanks if so, 174.23.105.242 (talk) 22:31, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Loans

But doesn't that header imply that the players have left permanently? – PeeJay 22:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

PeeJay2K3 Maybe, but in the context of a season, it hardly matters, since the player won't feature again. However, for clarity, probably could just say "out on loan." I think leaving him there is also problematic as it implies he's still a squad member. I'll leave it to you. Valenciano (talk) 23:00, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

1rr report

Just to point out you'll be lucky to get action on the IP for 1rr violation unless you give them the specific warning template for it and then they violate it again. A simple letting them know of it without the template no longer counts apparently. Mabuska ^(talk) 21:46, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. In this case, they were blocked. I wouldn't be surprised if they are a new guise of a previously blocked user. They know their way around here too well to be otherwise. Valenciano (talk) 16:00, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

They got blocked as an open proxy of someone previously blocked so that probably helped. Mabuska ^(talk) 17:50, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Five years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:36, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas !!!

Hello Valenciano: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:59, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Thank you CAPTAIN RAJU. I hope you have great holidays and a happy 2018. Valenciano (talk) 08:58, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

ETA is a terriorist group, noty just separatist

Good afternoon Valenciano i have been reading a page wich you started, it makes very few mentions to the amount of people killed by ETA, it mentions them 99% of the time as a separatist group when they really are a terrorist group,

could you change this please? and perhaps add the data of the full amount of terror attacks which numbers over 2000 attacks?

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mankwank (talk • contribs) 23:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I didn't start the page and the answer is I can't and I won't. The lead already states: "Between 1968 and 2010, it killed 829 people (including 340 civilians) and injured thousands more.[4][5][6][7] ETA is classified as a terrorist group by Spain, France,[8] the United Kingdom,[9] the United States,[10] Canada[11] and the European Union.[12] This convention is followed by a plurality of domestic and international media, which also refer to the group as "terrorists." " That's very clear regarding the organisation's status and meets WP:NPOV. Valenciano (talk) 07:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Third party opinion

Hi, Valenciano. Based on past talk page interaction and topic interests (politicians/elections), I ask you to become a third party opinion to shed light about a content dispute here. Are elected members to a regional parliament of a Spanish autonomous community (1st level subnational division) presumed to be generally notable? That is, do they comply with WP:POLITICIAN? Best regards.--Asqueladd (talk) 18:43, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Superfluous use of "different"

I had to laugh and should "comrade!" at your revert of the unnecessary use of 'different' this morning in the World Cup article. That has recently become one of my pet peeve errors; I see it constantly among my students, with very much the same comment you used in the edit summary. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 17:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

I also salute you! Misuse of "different" is ubiquitous. "Personally" is another one. "I personally think" / "My personal opinion is" etc. Keep fighting the struggle. Valenciano (talk) 08:02, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

MOS:NUM

I agree that the extended content is not needed, but MOS:NUMNOTES suggests that we should, "avoid beginning a sentence with a figure". Any ideas? Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:20, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Just saw that. One part of the MOS that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but in that case we could have the wording "There were 79 teams from 54 of the 55 UEFA member associations participating." Valenciano (talk) 09:43, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Vicente Guaita

Hi there VALENCIANO, longtime no "see" from Portugal,

i know it's virtually impossible, but i'll ask anyway: you being a Valencia supporter, do you think you can retrieve this player's Tercera División stats with Valencia CF Mestalla? I tried and tried (and also asked other fellow users), to no avail :(

Thank you very much in advance for whatever you can provide, happy editing/holidays from Portugal! --Quite A Character (talk) 17:28, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello again, I hope you're doing well. I've had a look but unfortunately can't find those stats. Valenciano (talk) 09:04, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Deravica

Why you call Deravica the real name is Gjeravica and Kosovo is a state and not a part of Serbia since 2008. Ardi11 (talk) 08:36, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Because in English that seems to be the common name (see WP:COMMONNAME for more details. If you believe differently, then it is best to argue this on the article's talk page (Talk:Đeravica). Valenciano (talk) 08:40, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

AIV

Hi, I saw your AIV report. For some reason it expired with no action taken. I have placed a suspected sock tag on User:Publisistqwerty12828218181. Let me know if you see more problems. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 14:11, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

EdJohnston based on this edit the account above is continuing to hijack the article just as confirmed sock Debbie139... and kgb243 did. The sockpuppetry seems obvious. Valenciano (talk) 07:26, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

"a lesbian woman"

Since you seem to be doing a global search-and-replace for this phrase, I'd like to suggest that you not do so. While "a lesbian woman" may strike you as redundant, many such people prefer to be described that way, rather than as "a lesbian". It's similar to the difference between "a gay man" and "a gay", or "a latina woman" and "a latina". Adjectives such as "lesbian", "gay", "latina", etc describe people, rather than defining them as nouns. Reducing a person to a single noun to define them is depersonalizing, and shouldn't be imposed routinely as if it were some kind of rule. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 20:48, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

It does strike me as redundant, but if it's going to cause offence, fair enough, I'll just leave it be. Valenciano (talk) 21:25, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Saint Nicholas

Apologies, in reverting the IP user I caught your reversion instead of his vandalism. You are emphatically NOT the target. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

No problem. Valenciano (talk) 22:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Notice

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Brian Kelly (historian)

I note that we have both reverted edits by user 81.97.140.148 on the above page. I had explained my reasons for making the reversion on the talk page. That user then said "re-corrected the listing to add the common term ‘north of ireland’ after it has been changed twice now by Alekksandr. If this usage is unacceptable to Wikipedia then I will take the page down". This appears to conflict with Wikipedia:Ownership of content. Now that the user has made three reverts, would there be a case for semi-protection of the article? Alekksandr (talk) 18:04, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas !!!

Happy Yuletide!

Merry Yuletide to you! (And a happy new year!) .CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)