User talk:Tariqabjotu/Archive Fifty-Three

Thanks Thanks for stepping up to post the Shammi Kapoor ITN :) -- Ashish-g55 00:40, 18 August 2011 (UTC) Username Hey! You just expressed a concern regarding my username. Here the explanation: :P Batman: I have one rule. The Joker: Oh, then that's the rule you'll have to break to know the truth. Batman: Which is? The Joker: The only sensible way to live in this world is without rules, and tonight, you're gonna break your one rule! Batman: I'm considering it. The Joker: There's only minutes left; you're going to have to play my little game if you want to save one of them. Batman: Them? The Joker: You know, for a while there, I thought you really were Dent. The way you threw yourself after her... [laughs] '[Batman realises he means Rachel; enraged, he flips Joker over onto the table] The Joker: Look at you go! Does Harvey know about you and his "little bunny"? [Batman slams Joker's head into the mirror and punches him] Batman: WHERE ARE THEY? The Joker: Killing is making a choice... [Batman punches him again] Batman: WHERE ARE THEY? The Joker: Choose between one life or the other: Your friend the District Attorney, or his blushing bride-to-be! [Batman punches him again] The Joker: [laughing hysterically] You have nothing to threaten me with! Nothing to do with all your strength! [Batman grabs him] The Joker: But don't worry, I'm gonna tell you where they are! Both of them, and that's the point. You'll have to choose. He's at 250 52nd Street and she's at Avenue X and Cicero. So, this was the story, a line from my favourite movie, The Dark Knight. 250 52nd Street (talk · contribs) or Avenue X at Cicero (talk · contribs) 19:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC) Apologies Hi. I only just saw your comment at WP:ERRORS regarding the darkest planet blurb that you posted. My comment there was overly critical – sorry for giving you a hard time. I really do appreciate your work at ITN. 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I'm puzzled by something though, after looking at the website you linked to [1] which shows where the new crescent moon was visible on August 29. If I'm reading the world map correctly, the new moon was not visible in Saudi Arabia on August 29, but only in Southern Chile, Polynesia (naked eye) and South Africa (binoculars). Am I reading the map right? --Kenatipo speak! 15:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC) Sorry for taking so long to get back to you; I've been travelling. Yes, you're reading that correctly. But it's well known that there is a sort of confirmation bias on moonsightings. Muslims in the Middle East and the Arab world had long placed Eid ul-Fitr as starting the evening of August 29. And, low and behold, that's when the moon was "sighted". Of course, it's likely no one ever saw the moon (except in Chile), but the most unreliable of reports are believed in order to keep with the planned Eid day. It's only a matter of time before people just cut the crap and calculate the months (as some Islamic organizations, like some in North America, have already decided to do). -- tariqabjotu 13:20, 4 September 2011 (UTC) Thanks, Tariq; hope you had a good trip! --Kenatipo speak! 14:04, 4 September 2011 (UTC) The Signpost: 05 September 2011 News and notes: 24,000 votes later and community position on image filter still unclear; first index of editor satisfaction appears positive In the news: Britannica and Wikipedia like "apples and chairs"; should anyone who's anyone get an article?; and why fighting and barriers to editing may be useful after all WikiProject report: Riding with WikiProject London Transport Sister projects: Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 Featured content: The best of the week Opinion essay: The copyright crisis, and why we should care Arbitration report: BLP case closed; Cirt-Jayen466 nearly there; AUSC reshuffle Technology report: Pencils down in Google Summer of Code, August analysed and integrated HTTPS support in action Read this Signpost in full · Single-page · Unsubscribe · EdwardsBot (talk) 00:54, 6 September 2011 (UTC) The Signpost: 12 September 2011 News and notes: Foundation reports on research, Kenya trip, Mumbai Wikiconference; Canada, Hungary and Estonia; English Wikinews forked In the news: 9/11 coverage, Wikimedia hypothetically rebranded and Wikipedia golf 2.0 WikiProject report: Politics in the Pacific: WikiProject Australian Politics Featured content: Wikipedians explain two new featured pictures Arbitration report: Ohconfucius sanctions removed, Cirt desysopped 6:5 and a call for CU/OS applications Technology report: What is: agile development? and new mobile site goes live Opinion essay: The Walrus and the Carpenter Read this Signpost in full · Single-page · Unsubscribe · EdwardsBot (talk) 00:41, 13 September 2011 (UTC) You're invited! 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Despite who's right, there's multiple parties that are edit warring over the article -- if there's consensus on what the content of the article should be, an admin can make those changes, but right now that consensus doesn't exist. Additionally, when reversing another admin's actions, could you please consult that admin before you reverse it? Thanks, Mikaey, Devil's advocate 14:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC) If you have a problem with the unprotection, I'll restore it. If you don't, I don't see the point of this complaint. Your reason for the protection was, in part, lack of independent confirmation. Because that now exists, it seems like the original reason for full protection was broken. -- tariqabjotu 14:42, 20 October 2011 (UTC) If you would, please -- the fact is, there's an edit war in progress. There's bound to be more details to come in that people are going to argue over. Mikaey, Devil's advocate 14:49, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Then cross that bridge when we get to it, but you protected the article because his death was unconfirmed and because people were edit-warring over whether he was dead. But it's reasonably confirmed, with pictures, and he's dead, so there's no reason you presented that still is valid now. Fully protecting articles that are bound to get updates due to current events is uncommon, and, in my opinion, a bad idea. -- tariqabjotu 14:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Yes, but until he's confirmed dead by reliable sources, it's still a BLP, and "reasonably confirmed" isn't good enough. Mikaey, Devil's advocate 15:03, 20 October 2011 (UTC) There were pictures. Seriously. Just drop it. -- tariqabjotu 15:11, 20 October 2011 (UTC) I don't think there's any cases where pictures have constituted a reliable source on Wikipedia. Pictures can always be faked or doctored. Mikaey, Devil's advocate 15:16, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Ok, look -- there were three points here. Can we agree on the following items? Before you undo another admin's administrative actions, you should always consult with that admin first. (This is just common courtesy.) BLPs always require that highly reliable sources attest to any of the information on their page. Pictures don't constitute reliable sources. Despite what the reason was for the edit war, there was an edit war going on, and the full protection should have stayed in place to give people a chance to cool down and come to a consensus as to what the actual content of the article should have been. Just because the reason for the full protection goes away doesn't mean that people have come to a consensus as to what the content of the article should have been, and unless an equally compelling reason came along to remove the protection (or people came to a consensus as to what the content should have been), it should have stayed in place. I think I'm done trying to argue that the full protection should go back in place, because it's kinda pointless now, but can we agree that it shouldn't have been removed? Mikaey, Devil's advocate 15:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC) FYI... I just wanted to tell you that this looks to me like the single greatest bone-head move I've ever seen an admin do on Wikipedia. What is the big hurry to include current events? What is the big rush to include unconfirmed materials? The article now stands in ruins from being overly edited. Thanks. Erikeltic (Talk) 14:44, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Since when is "over-editing" a reason for protecting an article? -- tariqabjotu 14:46, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Edit warring then. There you go. BTW, Generalíssimo Francisco Franco is still dead. Erikeltic (Talk) 14:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC) The edit warring was over whether he was dead. Now there's independent confirmation, including pictures, so why would that edit war continue? -- tariqabjotu 14:49, 20 October 2011 (UTC) There was no confirmation at the time of your edit. You should have left it admin-only for the 12 hours. Erikeltic (Talk) 14:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Yes, there was. That's why I unprotected the article. -- tariqabjotu 14:52, 20 October 2011 (UTC) I'm not going to argue with you, but you're incorrect. There was no confirmation by any government agency at the time of your edit and you took it upon yourself to swoop in and open the article up for editing after another admin had protected it. There is absolutely no need to rush something like that; if Gaddafi was dead, chances are really good that he'll still be dead in a couple of hours. You made a bad call (period). Erikeltic (Talk) 14:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Hilo In regards to his latest comments, I feel it's time to implement the topic ban there's been support for against him. Hot Stop talk-contribs 05:52, 22 October 2011 (UTC) Agreed with Hot Stop. I read the original discussion on his behavior but did not comment on it. The reason is that, while I thought HiLo48's behavior was extreme and disruptive, I thought it sets a bad precedent that we might censor users for having extreme personal views. After my nomination was turned into an anti-American cesspool by HiLo48, it has become obvious (to me) that he has little interest in improving the quality of ITN nominations and is merely using ITN as a front for expressing his bigoted views against a particular nation. 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Phoenix and Winslow took those edits to the talk page on 10 October[2] where his changes were discussed extensively and rejected with the current wording again gaining consensus. Phoenix and Winslow then took the same edits to the NPOV noticeboard on 14 November[3] (without notifying any of the article editors) where they are still under discussion. When the previous page protection was lifted the article editors declined to make any changes apart from returning the page to the pre-lock consensus version per talk until the disputes were resolved. Against consensus, Phoenix and Winslow made his disputed edits, was reverted, was asked to use talk before making more edits and yet he made the edits for a second time. The behaviour by Phoenix and Winslow (and his socks) to continually promote a company in this article is unacceptable and is locking out legitimate editors. What can be done to prevent Phoenix and Winslow from editing against consensus so that the situation can be resolved without having the page locked? Wayne (talk) 18:08, 19 November 2011 (UTC)