User talk:Snehajanfy

Draft:Peringottukara Devasthanam[edit]

I saw you asking on another user's talk page when Draft:Peringottukara Devasthanam would be reviewed. The answer is "never" if it isn't submitted for review, which it wasn't. But because you asked, I have reviewed it and declined it again. See the review notice and the comment. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Vishnumaya Kuttichathan Swamy (February 15)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jeraxmoira was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Vishnumaya Kuttichathan Swamy and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Snehajanfy! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Vishnumaya Kuttichathan Swamy has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Vishnumaya Kuttichathan Swamy. Thanks! Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:01, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This a legendary god that we are talking about. Can I use published books in Malayalam that dont have ISBN numbers as references? Would that help me get the article published? Snehajanfy (talk) 05:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I stopped by your draft article to see if I could help and I was somewhat disappointed. Your last edit with the summary "update citations" added a lot of very poor sources, worse than those you previously had, and some downright unacceptable on an encyclopedia (youtube videos, blogs, an advertising page).

What's worse is that, from what I can see, the citations you added to the lede paragraph do not even begin to support the sentences they follow- at best they merely mention some of the same words. Citations need to be to reliable sources which prove the statements being cited.

As it stands, in your hurry to resubmit the draft article, you have introduced much worse sourcing, and failed to improve the encyclopedic tone of the text. I would be happy to help with the latter, as a copy editor and peer support, as it seems that the temple could indeed meet notability requirements for English Wikipedia.

However, I would request that you first take some time to review the policies which have been shared with you already regarding Reliable Sourcing, neutral point of view, and how we build articles from what reliable sources explicitly say. It is a very different pathway from writing prose or promotion, and the fact that you've linked seemingly random sources in the lede makes me worry that you don't yet understand that.

Let me know if you would like to work together, it will not be an overnight process and I would first re-link you to a handful of articles that have been shared by draft reviewers in your previous attempts, and ask you a few questions to summarize in your own words.

Either way, have a great day, night, or what have you! Just because Wikipedia has these strict rules, doesn't mean we are against you in any way- we just protect the encyclopedia carefully. The temple seems awesome, from what I can tell, and it should be pretty easy to determine whether we can prove it as "Wiki-notable" or not ☺️🙌 Chiselinccc (talk) 21:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you for the in-depth feedback. I would love to work with you. Since it's my first time doing a Wikipedia article I would love to learn as much as I possibly can about the process here. I take your feedback positively and look forward to understanding the true essence of Wikipedia articles. Thank you for your time and help Snehajanfy (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, I am happy to collaborate! This is a good motivation for me to get my desktop editing environment set up this week, so I'm not just working from mobile which is very limited, especially in terms of sharing links. I will post a new topic to your userpage here once I do, with a few links to review that are crucial for our foundation.

In the meantime, if you review the comments from reviewers on the draft, you will likely see blue links to WP:RS policy page on reliable sources, a great starting point.

The main thing to keep in mind at the start is that Wikipedia is about summarizing what these reliable sources say about topics, and citing proof of those statements as we go. Reliable sources can't perfectly represent everything, and sometimes they even go against what we personally believe about something. So it's a very careful path we walk, to only add content that is well-established by these policies without accidentally including our own perspectives.

My first name is Chelsea by the way! You can call me that or my username. When I next write to you, I will include the block of wiki-code that allows you to "ping" and send a notification to me when you have questions- I barely remember it on mobile, another reason for me to get behind a proper computer to collaborate, lol.

Take care till we speak next, and if you want to keep busy maybe try to identify which sources in your draft need to be replaced based on the policies on Reliable Sources :-D Chiselinccc (talk) 02:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot Chelsea. I'm Sneha. Sure I will look at this link on reliable sources. Let me see what I can do.

How about the content? Does that also have to be rewritten from scratch? Snehajanfy (talk) 20:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chealsea, I read through the policy page u asked me to read but I am as clueless as ever. Any chance we could connect over a call and work together to resolve this at the earliest. Snehajanfy (talk) 18:12, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peringottukara Devasthanam (February 19)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Theroadislong were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Peringottukara Devasthanam and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 17:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Peringottukara Devasthanam has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Peringottukara Devasthanam. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 18:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are these worthy of Citations?[edit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw93Q7p0n4E -It is a link to a video about the temple aired on a TV channel. Can I use this as a citation? I do understand that Youtube videos are unreliable.

However, I have seen some other temples post their videos in the citations

These are all the mentions I have for this temple. They are mostly all mentions or about festivals celebrated at this temple. If anyone can help me identify the reliable sources i would be grateful.

http://hindutourism.com/1-175-1/shri-peringottukara-devasthanam-kerala

https://issuu.com/devastanam/docs/kuttichathan.pptx

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/black-magic-is-big-bucks-for-kerala-village/articleshow/22408872.cms

https://deets.feedreader.com/devasthanam.com

https://real-indiatours.com/peringottukara-vishnumaya-temple-in-kerala/

https://malayalam.indianexpress.com/entertainment/khushbu-attends-naree-pooja-at-peringottukara-in-thrissur-tweets-photos-907967/

https://theindiantrip.com/things-to-do/peringottukara-devasthanam-sree-vishnumaya-kuttichathan-temple-thrissur-activity

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Vishnumaya-worship-primarily-in-Thrissur-Kerala-all-about

https://www.tripadvisor.in/Attraction_Review-g735202-d19694448-Reviews-Peringottukara_Devasthanam-Thrissur_Thrissur_District_Kerala.html

https://www.shaligram.com/Black_Magic_Removal_Puja_at_Sree_Vishnumaya_Temple_OPS_32_6-0-0-913-28425-1.php9

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/tc0p1m/black_magic_in_kerala/?rdt=44683

https://bharatbz.com/kerala/peringottukara-devasthanam-sree-vishnumaya-temple-106397