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Help wanted!

Hi Andy,

I hope you are doing well. I'm writing to you to ask for your opinion regarding a client of mine: story time below!

Basically the gentleman (Martin Saidler) owns a company (Centralway) whose article has been edited by employees over the years (easy to track: they added "centrlway" to their usernames). They apparently weren't very good at it, however, because at some point they hired a guy over at Upwork to do their job. They then hired a second guy to create the owner's biography (still via Upwork).

Problems arose when the first Upwork guy was found to be an undisclosed paid editor: then all articles he'd touched were slapped with a {{CoI}} tag, which is fine. What is less fine, however, is that the Martin Saidler's article was also tagged, eventhough the CoI was appropriately declared during creation by Upwork guy#2 (and the evil, no good, paid editor hadn't touched it).

Of course the second editor won't touch it anymore with a ten-foot pole, and I've been contacted to fix this mess (disclosure: I am NOT on Upwork or any similar site). Basically they would like:

  • the unwarranted CoI tag on Martin Saidler to be removed;
  • a picture to be added (it's been uploaded and cleared with OTRS already);
  • the infobox mention that he is a Uni Vienna alumni to be removed (he's a drop out, and it actually says as much in the first line of the second paragraph).

and that's it.

I've listed every employee I could find in the talk pages with the appropriate template, and contacted user:Doc James (who did the initial tagging), asking to correct the Martin Saidler article (the discussion can be seen here and here). You read it all, but let us simply say that Jame has been politely uncooperative: : not saying a definite "no", but not helping either.

Things haven't moved an inch in a month and what I thought would be a rather straightforward thing needs to come to a close. That's when I figured I should contact someone neutral and distant enough with the whole affair to have a look at it : if you think the above three edits are reasonable, then by all means please fix them; and if it can not/should not be fixed, then let me know and I'll tell the client that they should have been smarter.

Thanks! -- Pplc (talk) 17:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Pplc: I've removed the tag, as explained on the talk page, and added the image. As Alma mater tells us, alma mater "can also apply to a school one has attended without graduating". I take no view as to the wider issues. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:38, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
The person who wrote the article has a COI and therefore I have restored the tag. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:13, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
And I've removed it again, for the same reason as before. Please read the template's documentation before using it again, on any article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:23, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:21, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

As I noted there, there is a 3RR exemption for BLP issues. Discussion of your inappropriate application of a tag to the affected page, contrary to the explicit warnings in the template's documentation, not to use the template as you did ( if you place this tag, you should promptly start a discussion on the article's talk page to explain what is non-neutral about the article. If you do not start this discussion, then any editor is justified in removing the tag without warning.), continues on the article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:47, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Review

I will be reviewing your past actions on behalf of your paid editing wikifriend. Edit warring to strip COI warnings without doing the work yourself to ensure that the article is NPOV is despicable. If I find a pattern of this, I will be seeking a topic ban from you interacting with paid editors. Jytdog (talk) 02:58, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

since you did the filthy thing of linking to this after i removed it, here, i will accept your invitation. Jytdog (talk) 22:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
You think you can leave snide ad hominem accusations and threats and no-one will notice or comment? Like i said: Bring it on. Far better you waste your time "investigating" me, than smearing BLP subjects with miss-applied "badges of shame". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:36, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I never really looked at what you do before. So I am going to look to see if you are a serial WiR who continually adds promotional content about the organizations paying you, and if you acted badly to aid commercial paid editors in the past. I will indeed bring it on. Maybe I will find stuff, maybe I won't. But I am going to look. Jytdog (talk) 22:45, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I see, now that others have noted your ad hominem attacks and harassment ([1], [2], [3]), you're belatedly trying to water down your threats. That wont wash, either. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:06, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
You're also going to have to stop your habit of leaving then removing abusive messages: [4], [5], [6], [7]. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 06:32, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
I have decided not to respond to you about everything you write on the topic of our various disputes. I have retracted what I have retracted. I apologize for having posted them; in each case when i edited or removed them, that was my final intention. Jytdog (talk) 14:48, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Hurriedness listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Hurriedness. Since you had some involvement with the Hurriedness redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -- Tavix (talk) 21:54, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

ANI notice: improper COI tagging

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Improper_COI_tagging. The discussion is about the topic Language Creation Society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mendaliv (talk • contribs) 10:29, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #297

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Constraint violations can now be checked on qualifiers and references (phab:T168532)
    • Implemented usage tracking deduplication to reduce database load (phab:T178079). This should not have any effect on what users see on recent changes and watchlists.
    • Redirects on client wikis that are connected to a Wikidata item can have a tracking category, if set up (phab:T185743). Thanks, Matěj!
    • Improved documentation of the pageterms query module (gerrit:406240). Thanks, Niedzielski!
    • Improved empty "content was:" in deletion logs for entities (phab:T184025)
    • Fixed links to external user pages in recent changes (phab:T183019)
    • Fixed user names beginning with a star sometimes being rendered as a list (phab:T182800)
    • Fixed constraint check results possibly showing up in the wrong language (phab:T185688)
    • Fixed ArticlePlaceholders possibly not showing up in search results (gerrit:406168)
    • Some of the developers attended to the Wikimedia Developer Summit 2018. You can find some notes on the Phabricator board

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Out of date link

Hello. Somewhere on en.wikipedia.org there is a link to http://www.rsc.org/eic/sites/default/files/the-mole-march-2014-corrected.pdf (as shown by our referral traffic in Google Analytics). This link no longer exists and I'd like to update/remove it as appropriate. However, I can't locate the exact page on Wikipedia where the link has been placed. Do you know of any way I can track this down? Msuxg (talk) 13:35, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

@Msuxg: The tool you need is Special:LinkSearch. However, that shows that that PDF is linked only from this talk page. Is it possible that you have another URL, redirecting to that? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:52, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Many thanks. I shall investigate. Msuxg (talk) 15:07, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Msuxg: I found it, http://www.rsc.org/eic/sites/default/files/The-Mole-March-2014-corrected.pdf (note capitalisation) was linked from Nickel titanium. I have now switched that to a copy on archive.org's Wayback Machine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:20, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Thanks again. I've updated the reference to point to the original article in Chemistry World, from which the article in The Mole was taken. Msuxg (talk) 15:42, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Special:Diff/822175537

I wanted to thank you for this change. I had been meaning to request it (almost since IATH had been added). 50.53.21.2 (talk) 16:46, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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17:07, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Ringgold Inc

It is spam. The user not only is indefinitely block but has created an draft on their business. This is self-promotion. Pkbwcgs (talk) 19:02, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

@Pkbwcgs: The user is blocked only for their user name, and nothing more; the notice on the account's talk page invites them to either create a new account or apply for a change of username. Starting articles in the Draft: namespace is exactly what we ask editors with a declared CoI to do, and this example is very far from the "blatant examples of advertising" that are supposed to be speedily deleted as spam. Please make yourself familiar with these policy matters, and with WP:BITE, before nominating similar items for deletion in future. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:32, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you ...

Call of the Wild
Precious six years

... for improving article quality in January 2018! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata question

Andy, I think {{taxonbar}} is much more useful now that it can link to multiple Wikidata entries. Consider the taxonbar at Aeonium aureum, for example: all three names are used in floras I possess, and the three Wikidata items have different and useful links to databases.

A problem that remains, however, is that when different language wikis use different synonyms for the same taxon, and choose to link to the Wikidata item of the same name, then only some of the interwiki links show up in the left margin. It's annoying, and illogical, to have to link to an out-of-date synonym just because the majority of other wikis haven't caught up yet – and what happens when they do? Some links get moved, some don't. The right solution, at least in my view, is to be able to link wikidata items at different synonyms of the same taxon together so that all the interwiki links can be shown. (This is also a problem with articles on monotypic taxa, when some wikis have one article at one rank, some one article at another rank, and others articles at each of the different ranks. It's also relevant to Berry and Berry (botany), which can't be interlinked properly.)

Since you know much more about Wikidata than I do, do you think this would be technically feasible? If so, and you also think it would be valuable, where should it be proposed? Peter coxhead (talk) 23:05, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead: There are various possible solutions, some technical, some social. You could ask at d:Wikidata:Project chat. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:23, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 26

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2018).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has closed with a consensus that candidates at WP:RFA must disclose whether they have ever edited for pay and that administrators may never use administrative tools as part of any paid editing activity, except when they are acting as a Wikipedian-in-Residence or when the payment is made by the Wikimedia Foundation or an affiliate of the WMF.
  • Editors responding to threats of harm can now contact the Wikimedia Foundation's emergency address by using Special:EmailUser/Emergency. If you don't have email enabled on Wikipedia, directly contacting the emergency address using your own email client remains an option.

Technical news

  • A tag will now be automatically applied to edits that blank a page, turn a page into a redirect, remove/replace almost all content in a page, undo an edit, or rollback an edit. These edits were previously denoted solely by automatic edit summaries.

Arbitration

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Old question answered

Briefly, I finally (a few years late!) worked out what the problem was at User talk:Pigsonthewing/Archive 77#CWGC cemetery template for the link that didn't work. Somewhere in that discussion (it is difficult to link directly) you used the example of 'JOHANNESBURG (WEST PARK) CREMATION MEMORIAL' (which has the ID number 101546), and you generated an URL using the incorrect ID number 1015461 (not sure where the extra '1' came from), which failed. What this means is that the form of the URL being used at the BRFA is correct, so hopefully that will all work out. Once those URLs are fixed, it may be possible to look again at getting the refs converted to using the template, maybe using a bot, maybe semi-automation instead. Carcharoth (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

I think I owe you an apology, as having been through some other examples of broken CWGC URLs, it appears that they did something strange with their URLs at some point. They may even have changed the ID numbers they used for some cemeteries at some point, as that is the only way really to explain some of the mistakes I have been fixing. It can all be fixed, but is rather frustrating. In passing, is there an easy way to check a series of links (several thousands) to see which ones are dead links (i.e. returning errors of some sort)? Even when the URLs get fixed, some may still just be wrong. I'm happy to fix them manually, but loading up thousands of URLs to see which are wrong is a bit laborious. Also, it would be nice if there was a way to cross-check the title/name used in {{CWGC}} and {{CWGC cemetery}} with the name of the landing page for the URL (or rather, a specific part of the results served up). Also, as you know, some URLs are of the simple form with just the ID number: http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1342576 (used on List of cricketers who were killed during military service) and the same ID number is used with a name tagged on the end: http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1342576/CONNAUGHTON,%20JOSEPH%20MAURICE%20FRANCIS (used on Joseph Connaughton). There are pros and cons to both forms of the URLs (sometimes the latter form breaks). I suspect it would be easier if they were all of the simple form, and the "name" information was used in the template form, and/or in the reference parameter. What do you think? Carcharoth (talk) 08:00, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018

Wikidata as Hub

One way of looking at Wikidata relates it to the semantic web concept, around for about as long as Wikipedia, and realised in dozens of distributed Web institutions. It sees Wikidata as supplying central, encyclopedic coverage of linked structured data, and looks ahead to greater support for "federated queries" that draw together information from all parts of the emerging network of websites.

Another perspective might be likened to a photographic negative of that one: Wikidata as an already-functioning Web hub. Over half of its properties are identifiers on other websites. These are Wikidata's "external links", to use Wikipedia terminology: one type for the DOI of a publication, another for the VIAF page of an author, with thousands more such. Wikidata links out to sites that are not nominally part of the semantic web, effectively drawing them into a larger system. The crosswalk possibilities of the systematic construction of these links was covered in Issue 8.

Wikipedia:External links speaks of them as kept "minimal, meritable, and directly relevant to the article." Here Wikidata finds more of a function. On viaf.org one can type a VIAF author identifier into the search box, and find the author page. The Wikidata Resolver tool, these days including Open Street Map, Scholia etc., allows this kind of lookup. The hub tool by maxlath takes a major step further, allowing both lookup and crosswalk to be encoded in a single URL.

Links

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Wikidata weekly summary #298

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • We are saddened to report that Polish Wikimedian Krzysztof Machocki (who was also active on Wikidata) died on 31 January 2018, aged 36, after a couple of weeks of illness. Our condolences to his family and friends.
    • Notes of the IRC office hour of January 30th
    • The call for submissions for Wikimania (Cape Town, July 2018) is now open. Deadline is March 18th. Ideas of submissions related to Wikidata can be discussed here
    • Based on community discussions, the ArticlePlaceholder will soon be deployed on Urdu and Estonian Wikipedias.
    • Statistics
      • January 2018 brought us 9,770,248 edits, 445,027 new items were created.
      • The number of users that edited Wikidata per day grew in 2017 from 2439 to 2672 users, 9,6% more compared to 2016. The number of edits by them grew with 18% to 190k edits per day. We also get edited by 542 IP adresses per day, 50% more than in 2016.
      • In 2017, Wikidata got edited by 46 various bots per day, executing 334k edits per day (63% more than in 2016). The most active bot in 2017 was Emijrpbot, who added 18 million edits to Wikidata.
      • 284 million statements now contain references, compared to 67 million at the start of 2017. The average number of statements per item grew from 5 to almost 9. 73 million qualifiers are now used to provide more details for statements, 13 million in early 2017.
    • New tool based on Wikidata: Random TV episodes
  • Development
    • Diffs now show the entity ID in the page title (phab:T181077)
    • Improved handling of translations in the Query Service UI (gerrit:406301, gerrit:406996), thanks to Li Song
    • Continued working on diffs for forms on Lexemes (eg. phab:T186317)
    • Added summaries for edits on representations or grammatical features of a form (phab:T184702)
    • Worked on showing links to Lexemes and statements (phab:T185332)
    • Rolling out fine grain usage tracking on more wikis, so only relevant changes are shown in the watchlist and recent changes (phab:T185032)
    • Improved scalability of fine grain usage tracking (phab:T185693)

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  • When you use a gallery to show images you can define the size, like gallery widths="150px". You could use em or % instead of px but it would make no difference. You can now only use 150px or nothing (150). If you write something else, instead of treating it like px, it will not work. [14]
  • The wording when you send a thanks message will change. Instead of Yes or No it will say Thank and Cancel. It will also be easier to understand that all thanks are public. [15]
  • Redirects connected to Wikidata can create double Wikidata items. There will now be a tracking category for this. Wikis that don't want it can disable it. [16]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 February. It will be on all wikis from 8 February (calendar).

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20:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Pritzker Military Museum & Library and Pritzker Military Literature Award

...has been in the news lately. See: [[19]], [[20]] and [[21]]

TeriEmbrey (talk) 19:57, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

ANI

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.

Please see Pigsonthewing and COI guidelines and templates Jytdog (talk) 20:03, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Pigsonthewing, thank you for your efforts in reviewing new pages!
The NPP backlog at the end of the drive with the number of unreviewed articles by creation date. Red is older than 90 days, orange is between 90 and 30 days old, and green is younger than 30 days.

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 3819 unreviewed articles, with a further 6660 unreviewed redirects.
  • We are very close to eliminating the backlog completely; please help by reviewing a few extra articles each day!

New Year Backlog Drive results:

  • We made massive progress during the recent four weeks of the NPP Backlog Drive, during which the backlog reduced by nearly six thousand articles and the length of the backlog by almost 3 months!

General project update:

  • ACTRIAL will end it's initial phase on the 14th of March. Our goal is to reduce the backlog significantly below the 90 day index point by the 14th of March. Please consider helping with this goal by reviewing a few additional pages a day.
  • Reviewing redirects is an important and necessary part of New Page Patrol. Please read the guideline on appropriate redirects for advice on reviewing redirects. Inappropriate redirects can be re-targeted or nominated for deletion at RfD.

If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. 20:32, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Cite Q

I noticed that you were the creator of Template:Cite Q. I've been hoping for a long time to see a template that functioned like that, but I also noticed that it was the subject of a contentious Template for Deletion discussion. I was wondering what you thought about the long term prospects of the template and if there was any way that I could be supportive even after the discussion has closed. Abyssal (talk) 18:49, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

The long-term prospects are that it will become standard, but some people don't get that, yet ;-) If you can code Lua, you can help with the issues discussed on its talk page; otherwise, you can help to add data about cited works to Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:33, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm glad you're still confident that we can get Cite Q rolled out. I don't have any programming ability but would be happy to add information about sources to WikiData. The only thing that makes me hesitant is that I heard there was a plan for Wikidata to automatedly import a huge quantity of reference-related data at some point in the future. Is it likely that any source information I add will just be part of that bulk anyway? Abyssal (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

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Emmy van Deurzen entry

Hi Andy I note that Emmy van Deurzen's page has been flagged for possible deletion. I think that this would be a great mistake as she is a very well-known psychotherapist, and philosopher. She is also becoming well known at the moment as a campaigner against Brexit in the UK, a very timely issue here, which leads to many people wanting to know more about her. She has also donated to Wikipedia in the past. She is a visiting Professor at Middlesex University and the author of 16 books. I do agree that her page badly needs an update though, and I am happy to carry that out if I can work out how to edit pages (I have rarely updated Wikipedia entries, although have made great use of them, for which I am a bit ashamed). So a stay of execution please. Best wishes Digby Digby Tantam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digby_Tantam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Md1dt (talk • contribs) 16:57, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Talking

So Guy thinks we should talk. Do you think this would be productive? Jytdog (talk) 15:57, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I've been trying to talk to you for almost a month. You've responded with outright hostility, threats, ad hominem abuse, stalking my edits, outrageously false accusations, other misrepresentation (including in your first edit immediately after the one you made here), and attempts to silence me; continuing right up to today. Talking can only be productive when you cease such behaviour. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:10, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
No you have been quoting things at me. I am asking if you would like to talk with me. Jytdog (talk) 16:41, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
You can add "ignoring what I say" to the above list. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:42, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
So you are not willing to talk then, to see if we can work this out? Jytdog (talk) 16:43, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
You can add "badgering" and "attempting to put false words into my mouth" to the above list. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:44, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for replying. Jytdog (talk) 16:45, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
in case it wasn't clear by "talk" i meant actually talk, via skype or google hangouts. Jytdog (talk) 17:54, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
In case I wasn't clear: Talking can only be productive when you cease such behaviour. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:32, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)If you guys actually talked in meatspace, can the rest of us bring our popcorn and watch the show? (grin) Montanabw(talk) 18:03, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of House of Reeves for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article House of Reeves is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/House of Reeves until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DGG ( talk ) 06:47, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018

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