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Line Breaks

I see you took out all the single line breaks in Max Fremery. See User:Aymatth2#Line breaks. If you come across an article full of single line breaks in the future, please just leave it that way. There is a reason, and taking them out does not help anyone. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 16:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Interesting essay, and new to me. I suggest that you put it forward for inclusion in the MoS. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:19, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
The Manual of Style makes that point. WP:NOSTRIKE says "A single line break may follow a sentence, which may help some editors." I suspect it affects a significant number of editors, particularly older ones or those with common neurological disorders. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:34, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I meant to have it adopted as the default style. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:41, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Getting agreement on a basic change like that would be impossible. Anyway, most people leave the line breaks. Once every few months I find someone has gone through an article I started and taken them out for some reason. I usually just undo the change. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Member vs fellow

I noticed that you recently expanded the wikidata item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21127584 for Sunčica Čanić, and that it now lists Čanić as a member of SIAM. That is not what I wrote about her in the English Wikipedia article, and although it seems likely that she is a member the article does not document that. What I wrote is that she is a fellow of SIAM. Member and fellow are not synonymous. Member is a status anyone may obtain by paying an annual subscription fee. Fellow is an honorary status given by the society to people (most likely members at the time of being so honored) who are deemed particularly worthy by the society. Is there some way to make this distinction correctly in Wikidata? —David Eppstein (talk) 07:40, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

I didn't expand it; I created it. "fellow" is, in such cases, a subset of "member", but you're welcome to propose a separate Wikidata "fellow of" property; or to create an item for "fellow of SIAM". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:47, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 October 2015

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Tech News: 2015-43

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  • Timestamps in the protection log will now be in the user's timezone. Previously they would show Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). [3]

Problems

  • A problem with MediaWiki made some pages show no content on October 14. This has now been fixed. [4]
  • Some templates were misplaced in the Flow description bar. This could make it impossible to click on links. This will be fixed this week. [5]
  • The deployment of the new MediaWiki version was stopped on October 14. No new code was deployed for the rest of week. This meant planned changes did not happen. [6]

Changes this week

  • Changes that were planned to happen last week will happen this week. [7]
  • Wikispecies, Meta and MediaWiki.org will be able to use Wikidata for sitelinks. [8][9][10][11]

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Thank You

Ada Lovelace Award
Thank you, Andy, for your enthusiastic and helpful involvement in the University of Oxford Ada lovelace Day editathon. Your patience and advice were greatly appreciated by the attendees, many of whom were taking their first steps on Wikipedia. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 15:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Wow, thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Persondata Depreciated

Can you explain what this means? It was deleted off a page I watch, just curious. -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 17:05, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Consensus has been reached that the template should no longer be used, and should be removed from articles. See this RfC. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Pigsonthewing -- I looked at that link before reaching out to you. I still don't really understand it -- will the information get transcluded from the Infobox into Wikidata then? Is there going to be a robot to pull this information and remove it from existing pages? I am not super happy with having to go to Wikidata to edit Authority Control, but am trying to embrace this as it's an obviously powerful and rewarding effort (Wikidata). Best -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 18:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

VE

I thought you would enjoy this that VE created. Notice all the <nowiki> tags and it even defined named refs multiple times. Sigh..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgwhite (talk • contribs) 02:16, 23 October 2015‎

@Bgwhite: Shocking, Wasn't this claimed to be ready for use two years ago? It's such a disservice to new users that their work had be removed because of this. However, your comment on Cmeppping's talk page is rather bitey and - given that they've only ever made four edits - doesn't explain the issue clearly, nor help them to fix it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:23, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Andy, I didn't realize you were also working on it. Please see if you can salvage something from here to help. Regards - NQ-Alt (talk) 12:19, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 October 2015

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 5

Newsletter • October 2015

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

We did it!

In July, we launched five pilot WikiProjects: WikiProjects Cannabis, Evolutionary Biology, Ghana, Hampshire, and Women's Health. We also use the new design, named "WPX UI," on WikiProject Women in Technology, Women in Red, WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health. We are currently looking for projects for the next round of testing. If you are interested, please sign up on the Pilots page.

Shortly after our launch we presented at Wikimania 2015. Our slides are on Wikimedia Commons.

Then after all that work, we went through the process of figuring out whether we accomplished our goal. We reached out to participants on the redesigned WikiProjects, and we asked them to complete a survey. (If you filled out your survey—thank you!) While there are still some issues with the WikiProject tools and the new design, there appears to be general satisfaction (at least among those who responded). The results of the survey and more are documented in our grant report filed with the Wikimedia Foundation.

The work continues!

There is more work that needs to be done, so we have applied for a renewal of our grant. Comments on the proposal are welcome. We would like to improve what we have already started on the English Wikipedia and to also expand to Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. Why those? Because they are multilingual projects and because there needs to be better coordination across Wikimedia projects. More details are available in the renewal proposal.

How can the Wikimedia Foundation support WikiProjects?

The Wikimedia Developer Summit will be held in San Francisco in January 2016. The recently established Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in investigating what technical support they can provide for WikiProjects, i.e., support beyond just templates and bots. I have plenty of opinions myself, but I want to hear what you think. The session is being planned on Phabricator, the Wikimedia bug tracker. If you are not familiar with Phabricator, you can log in with your Wikipedia username and password through the "Login or Register: MediaWiki" button on the login page. Your feedback can help make editing Wikipedia a better experience.


Until next time,

Harej (talk) 09:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-44

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  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from October 27. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from October 28. It will be on all Wikipedias from October 29 (calendar).
  • The first time you use the visual editor, pop-ups will explain why and when you should use the citation and link tools. [12]
  • You will be able to upload images to Wikimedia Commons from inside the wikitext editor by clicking "Upload" in the "Insert file" dialog. You will also be able to drag and drop them into an article when using the visual editor. [13][14]
  • When you edit a code block in visual editor, you will have the syntax highlighted. [15][16]
  • Index and Page namespaces on Wikisource will be defined as content namespaces in $wgContentNamespaces. [17]

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18:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

You're invited! Women in Red World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Science

You are invited! Join us remotely!

World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Science

  • Dates: 8 to 29 November 2015
  • Location: Worldwide/virtual/online event
  • Host/Facilitator: Women in Red (WiR) in collaboration with Women scientists: Did you know that only 15% of the biographies on Wikipedia are about women? WiR focuses on "content gender gap". If you'd like to help contribute articles on women and women's works, we warmly welcome you!
  • Sponsor: New York Academy of Sciences
  • Event details: This is a virtual edit-a-thon hosted by WiR in parallel with a "phyisical" event during the afternoon of Sunday, November 22 in New York City. It will allow all those keen to improve Wikipedia's coverage of women in science to participate. As the virtual edit-a-thon stretches over three weeks, new participants will be able to draw on the assistance of more experienced editors while creating, translating or improving articles on women who are (or have been) prominent in the field. All levels of Wikipedia editing experience are welcome.
  • RSVP and learn more: →here←--Ipigott (talk) 10:37, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 October 2015

Wikidata weekly summary #182

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Tech News: 2015-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now see how many editors are using a gadget on a wiki on Special:GadgetUsage. [18]
  • If you are using the mobile version of Wikipedia, you can now see Wikidata descriptions under article titles in search results. [19]
  • Editing conflicts are now detected when you edit on a mobile device. Before, this did not work properly on mobile. [20]

Problems

  • On October 26 the Wikimedia sites went down for ten minutes. [21]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 4. It will be on all Wikipedias from November 5 (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • A help link will be added to Special:Search. Administrators might have to update the MediaWiki:Search-summary message to avoid two help links. [22]
  • Empty list items could be allowed in the future. If so, this could affect some templates. [23]

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16:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

WP water supply and sanitation vs. WP water

Hi, I started to change some tags because I am of the opinion that those articles fit better to the WP water which deals with water supply rather than WP water supply and sanitation which mainly focusses on sector profiles for water and sanitation in various countries. I don't think buildings like water works or other water related constructions are as important for WP water supply and sanitation by country because those articles give more of an overview. Since you reverted some of my edits, what are your thoughts about the assignment to a certain WP? --Mll mitch (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Mll mitch and suggest that we discuss this further here where I just wrote an explanation about this issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Water_supply_and_sanitation_by_country#Closure_of_project_and_re-tagging_to_WikiProject_Water_.3F Thanks. EvMsmile (talk) 02:44, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 4 November

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Oxford Ada Lovelace editathon

Hi Andy. Just for info, the participant survey from the event you helped at is now online at wmuk:Oxford_Ada_Lovelace_editathon_2015#Evaluation. There are some very positive comments, including "Very helpful people running the training." Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 11:49, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Helping remotely

Hi, just going to crack on with some file adding (from a cafe in Warsaw), for the BL editathon. Starting with the wren. Stuart. Battleofalma (talk) 12:01, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

@Battleofalma: Thank you. You could do all the Polish articles ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:00, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: I've *actually* had a go here, and have called upon some Polish Wikipedians I know to either fix my mess or use the same sound files we're using. Battleofalma (talk) 13:27, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Notes from Erica

Can I buy you a beer? Wait a sec... Ericabasnicki (talk) 15:00, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 November 2015

ORCID invalid records blog post

While http://scholarlyoa.com/2015/10/29/concerns-about-dirty-data-in-the-orcid-database/ is probably not your fault, or problem, is there any chance you can help remove those (hopefully invalid) records - e.g. escalate it to someone more appropriate? John Vandenberg (chat) 05:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

That post already has a comment posted in behalf of ORCID, who are aware of and dealing with the issue. In the meantime, such records do not interfere in any way with the use of valid records. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:53, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

You're mentioned in Beall's blog

See here. --Randykitty (talk) 17:46, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

@Randykitty: Belatedly: thank you. What a vague and unhelpful comment he made. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:55, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #183

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Highlights of 3 years of Wikidata by Madgalena Wiegner
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Tech News: 2015-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Superprotect has been removed. [24]
  • You can now switch between the wikitext editor and the visual editor without saving. You will not lose the changes you have made. [25]
  • JSON dumps of the production search indexes are now available. They can be imported to Elasticsearch. [26]

Problems

  • Some translations for the Thanks and Echo extensions were missing. Translators have been asked to help and this should be solved soon. [27]

Changes this week

  • Thumbnails of 16-bit TIFF files will be displayed properly. Before, this didn't work. [28]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 10. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 11. It will be on all Wikipedias from November 12 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 November at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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17:18, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Can you add references to a template?

Andy, I have been working on some cleanup lists eg Somerset and Bristol. I commented to User:Colinrosewell about Template:Rosewell family tree which adds a references needed/uncitedtag to articles it is included in. He attempted to add references to that template but says this broke the template and it has now been blanked. Is there a correct way to add references in a template?— Rod talk 08:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

@Rodw: It should be possible; having looked at the edits concerned, I'm not sure what User:Colinrosewell was trying to achieve. I suggest adding the refernces one at a time, and checking each is OK before moving to the next. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 November 2015

Wikidata weekly summary #184

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Tech News: 2015-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week

  • You can use TemplateData to indicate how you want a template to be displayed in wikitext. Tools like VisualEditor that edit templates will soon use this information. [31]
  • Echo notification icons in MonoBook will look more like other icons in the theme. [32]
  • The Community Tech team is doing a community wishlist survey to understand what they should be working on. They are now accepting proposals in all languages. You can create your proposal in the small box above the blue button and click it when you're done.
  • Wikis can make the welcome notification link to a specific page. [33]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from November 18. It will be on all Wikipedias from November 19 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 November at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Internet Explorer 8 will no longer have JavaScript support. You will still be able to browse and edit Wikipedia, but will not be able to use some features. This can be solved by upgrading to a newer version or switching to a different browser. The change will happen in January 2016. [34][35]

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19:39, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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