User talk:Megalibrarygirl/Archives/2021/February

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Request

Howdee Hey!! I was hoping you could get access to this article, Their Bottoms Are the Wrong Shape: Female Jockeys and the Theory of Established Outsider Relations. September 2010, Sociology of Sport Journal 27(3):301-315, DOI: 10.1123/ssj.27.3.301 Authors: Philippa Velija, Leah Flynn, Southampton Solent University. There's a whole list of articles I'd like to get access to so I'm wondering if WP has something worked out so editors can use a specific school name or standard check-in information that allows us free access? Thx in advance...best wishes (ping or email if you learn anything about access to the .pdf file). If not, can you download it and email to me? Atsme 💬 📧 20:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Atsme, I've requested a copy. Hopefully they'll come through. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Mega air hugs!! And I'll throw-in a big THANK YOU!! Atsme 💬 📧 02:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't want this to get lost in your archive so I'm pinging you, Megalibrarygirl. No luck getting that article? I have another request - a research article First published October 1, 1999 here is a DOI link. Atsme 💬 📧 19:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Happy birthday! Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Ritchie333! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

	... to you, Sue
	Hope you're enjoying your day and that the year ahead is better than the last. Rosiestep (talk) 01:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Rosiestep I appreciate it! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Teamwork and The Signpost

		The Teamwork Barnstar
		Thank you for being a part of The Signpost in 2020. Volume 16 is informative and a delight to go through! DTM (talk) 16:25, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@DiplomatTesterMan: thank you so much! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

How to put it? Application?

Hi Susan, I haven't read your entire page, but I can see that we have a lot in common, so I'll just aks if you would like to be my mentor by summing up why YOU would be my preferred choice (only if you want of course). We have various things in common: age, number of kids, love for books, non-religious, politically rather on the left side of the spectrum... Plus I assume we both hope to provide well researched information on all the great ladies, which haven't gotten much public credit. In German we don't even have Nancy_Maria_Donaldson_Johnson - and that's just the tip of the ice[cream]-berg. After a failed attempt to join a few years ago I returned to Wikipedia last weekend, creating profiles in German, English and Italian. I am from Germany, work as a translator and hope to find a mentor, who shares some of my interests and is able to put up with a non-digital-native. That's how I ended up reading various profiles of the Teahouse-crew and ended up here. As I already work on a few articles, however my overall know-how of how to get everything right - internal and external sources & how to quote them correctly, relevance of information, inserting images, correcting or updating existing articles etc... If you accept, I promise to be patient and if you ever need any bits and pieces of information which are available in more detail in either German or Italian I'f d be glad to provide what you might be looking for. Greetings Llydia (talk) 13:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Llydia, I am not Susan, but I watch her page and am Susun (pronounced exactly the same). Happy to see you here. I typically write about historic women who were involved in international movements. I find it fascinating how they were able to transcend borders pre-internet and air travel to work together on common issues. Always happy to have someone with language skills, as I am frequently in need of translator assistance. This year I am focusing on a series of articles on women's nationality, so I think my time to write specifically about individual women will be limited, but my hope is that the topic will uncover many unknown women who worked on the problem of having no defined allegiance or protection from their state of origin. If I may, when I get to the German and Italian sections, I may ask you for help. Welcome aboard. SusunW (talk) 14:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

SusunW, Thanks for the support! Llydia, I am always happy to help other editors find their feet! Please feel free to contact me any time for help. I'm not sure I'm a great mentor, but I am good at helping people. Feel free to email me, too! I hope we can have a long, productive working relationship! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Sue and SusunW. Nice to "meet" you, Llydia. I am so happy that you decided to edit again. Similarly to Susun, I work on women who were involved in international movements as well as women writers, broadly construed. I have some ability at translating from Romance languages, but none with German, and hope that you would be okay if I reached out to you, too, regarding German language sources from time to time. Happy editing and welcome back! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:24, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the warm welcome! This really makes me happy :-) As I know that biographic and other articles on women and about so-called "female" themes (seriously; doesn't Birth_spacing matter to the entire polupation?) are painfully underrepresented, I will do my best to make contributions that will hopefully be helpful. Unfortunately I need to upgrade my technical skills are not too great. For now the only addition I made to the English Wikipedia is the addition of a few Italian Ghost_towns. So when I saw that for instance Septima Poinsette Clark a) has no article of her own in German and b) there are some truly weak points in the Englisch version, which could be mended by the help of an external source; https://polisci.usca.edu/aasc/clark.htm (e.g. she had two children - the current version only mentions the one that died after birth, without even mentioning the surviving one). I am aware that this kind of editing is currently out of my league. I will be very happy to communicate via email and just put Llydia from Wikipedia in the subject line, so you know it's not just some random person from Germany. I look foreward to working on this with all of you! Llydia (talk) 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Llydia trust me, the technical parts are often out of my league as well. Research and writing, I can do. Technical stuff often finds me calling out to many helpers for assistance, but fortunately the group of folks working at Women in Red have a wide variety of skills and are usually keen to offer a hand. My very narrow view of wikitechnology is that I find something that works for me (often borrowing formatting from someone else's example) and use it repeatedly. It takes a long time, or it did for me, to become comfortable with editing, so feel free to reach out and ask questions. Good to see you Rosiestep, life is returning, slowly to normal. SusunW (talk) 19:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Llydia, yeah, don't hesitate to ask for help. That's what we're all here for. Also think about joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red. There's a ton of people with different skillsets there who are all involved with writing women back into history. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:24, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello ladies, so (additionally to my own ideas) the Women in Red project enabled me to find two lists of relevance for my future work - there are the missing articles, which are already listed as missing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Missing_articles_by_nationality/Germany however, if I click on the language option -wosh - another list and also really long: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Frauen/Frauen_in_Rot/Fehlende_Artikel_nach_Nationalit%C3%A4t/Deutsche and that was in combination with nationality... on the other hand I would also like to give a stage to the miserable women who have failed in life, also because their surroundings have failed them. Now I have to structure, how to be productive while taking care that my articles and my reseach don't lack quality. I already noticed, that some people here look at numbers: however creating a bunch of irrelevant articles that end up on the list of stump-articles is not my aim. I hope to learn by doing, so I will not start asking questions before I can't solve them... plus my first (talk page stalker) was friendly enough to point out some bilingual colleagues and one of them is willing to help in case I get tangled up during the attempt to link new articles to the versions which are created in other languages. My return here has been very motivating - and you definetely added to that bis time :-) Greetings Llydia (talk) 12:25, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Llydia, I agree, there's no reason to go for quantity over quality. A really important thing that gets overlooked in English Wikipedia and probably other languages is "anchor pages." SusunW is really good at creating these pages. They deal with women in the context of history. One I worked on with Susun was Women in brewing. I'm currently working on women's suffrage articles for every state. I imagine that German speaking countries probably have similar trajectories where you can talk about what women have done for equal rights in their communities. As long as the sourcing is there, it's game. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Susan, so I checked out the German version of women's suffrage in Europe https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauenwahlrecht_in_Europa and briefly looked at some of the protagonists, since a few of them are from my region - Clara Zetkin looks ok to me, however https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Otto-Peters (name giver of the high school my kids attend) and https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helene_Lange offer way more information in German, so in case you would like me to help you getting some of it across; let me know! Plus I looked at the German ladies mentioned in the brewing article - we also have the "beer sisters" from bavaria, who even have an english section on their website; https://www.bavaria.by/country-people/bavarian-crafts/bavarian-hops-sisters/ I don't know if you feel like they should be mentioned, but as that info is accessible, I'm sure you and SusunW can decide on that. Llydia (talk) 09:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Llydia, that's awesome! I have not gotten to other countries yet. I'm still stuck on the United States. I have a question though. One of the reasons that the women's suffrage movement in the US was so different state by state is due to our weird state law/federal law dichotomy. Did Germany have anything like that? For example, as women fought for suffrage in the US, Women in Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming recieved suffrage early, whereas other states waited. I bet there are some great sources about beer. I was in the US. Army and stationed in Ansbach. It was beautiful and I enjoyed traveling around the area, too. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:31, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Susan/ Megalibrarygirl, I only realized that I posed this message at the wron location (my own talk page) after a few hours...I travelled a lot. When it comes to the US, I only visited the East Coast though, and the area near the Canadian border. We have a federal system here in Germany, even during the time of separation it was kept up in both parts. There's 16 states: States_of_Germany. Bavaria (biggest and richest) has always claimed a special status. So it was in Bavaria where Anita_Augspurg and her partner Lida_Gustava_Heymann created some serious movement towards having the right to vote established all over Germany at the end of WW1. You might like this illustration, which is provided on an educational website, of the first congregation in favour of establishing the right to vote; https://www.bpb.de/geschichte/deutsche-geschichte/frauenwahlrecht/278704/der-kampf-um-das-frauenwahlrecht-auch-eine-internationale-angelegenheit Llydia (talk) 15:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC) Llydia (talk) 17:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC) PS. My Nadia Budde project is on hold, as I requested a picture directly from her and she seemed to be keen to also give a bit of additional input.

Llydia Thanks for the information! If you need any help with using Wikimedia Commons for images, let me know. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

texas snowstorms

Coolabahapple OMG! So cute! I am really lucky. In El Paso, we only got a little snow and we're not on the crappy grid the rest of Texas uses. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 07:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Yesterday, Mrs 333 showed me some photos of one of her friends in Central TX that had a swimming pool frozen over. I didn't realise it ever snowed down there. It's all melted around here and things are back to normal without the tabloids shrieking "OMG! Snow! PANIC!!!1111one1". Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Ritchie333, it was pretty mild in El Paso. It did get cold and freeze, but we didn't lose power like the rest of Texas. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey Susan

'Tis I, from Wonkette! Happy B-Day!

albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 18:10, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Albabe, Hi! I'm so excited another Wonketeer is here online! Thanks for the birthday wishes! :) What kinds of articles do you usually work on? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I usually do Music Stuff. I tried "fixing" some Comic Related Articles, like the page about me, but I mostly stay away from that because I've been smacked around by people (Hey Frank) who think I shouldn't be able to "correct" stuff because I'm actually in the Industry. Very odd... albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 15:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) "Al also Majored in Music Theory and plays Guitar, Keyboards, and the Recording Studio, and sings like an ill Parakeet doing a bad impersonation of Reverend Jim Ignatowski." Wish I could sing like that, I just sing like a third-rate Ian Anderson. I did a few piano exams, play a few instruments, have a home made studio, and record covers of songs that nobody's ever heard except Martinevans123 and send them to .... er Martinevans123, although I do think I emailed Sue my "rock band" arrangement of Boléro once ... I forget ... Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Ever heard Jeff Beck's version of Boléro??? Lotsa late 60's funtime. albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 15:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Ritchie333, You did. I enjoyed it! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) "Need I say with, uh, too much stress that it is in the, uh, voice division that you are deficient.... The voice division, Mr. Spiggott333. You are deficient in the voice division to the tune of one. Your guitar I like. It's a lovely guitar for the role. As soon as I heard it come in, I said, "Hello! What a lovely guitar for the role! ..." Martinevans123 (talk) 17:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Mr Evans, you know perfectly well with a bit of jiggery pokery I can sound like The Beach Boys! All 5 7 6^{[dubious – discuss]} of them! Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:24, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

No offense, but it would take a lot more than than jiggery pokery to truly sound like the beach Boys. Brian was amazing! And the arrangements, mostly performed by the Wrecking Crew are truly a Musical Summit of sorts. AND their Familial Harmony is Genetically AMAZING!!!

As for their Individual Voices: Brian had a lovely pure falsetto ("That's-a funny; my last pupil she had-a false set-a teeth")... and his vocal on Caroline, No is "transplendent." Carl's voice is just as lovely, if not more so. God Only Knows is one of my fave Vocals of all time. albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 15:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Wouldn't It Be Nice.... if only you could sing in tune. Poor Brian would be spinning in his surfboard grave. If only he were dead. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Martinevans123, Wait, which one is the bad Beach Boy? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:33, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Mike is a real jerk... not sure if that makes him a "bad Beach Boy" though. albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 15:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Ha! Wait... I know this one. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh man... you guys are going after my Childhood. While not anywhere near as talented as [Brian Wilson]], Jan Berry was pretty cool and talented. And kinda stupid. I have a nice copy of "Deadman's Curve: The Jan and Dean Story." I found it as a VHS in a cut-out bin at Blockbuster back in the 90s (I think) and eventually had it Digitized. It's pretty cool. Richard Hatch as Jan, and Bruce Davison as Dean. Richard's not too bad, and Bruce is actually great. I met Hatch at a Con, and because my Wife is a huge Battlestar..." fan, I asked him to sign it for her. He was very nice (Maybe because I worked in Comics... or not. He seemed to treat he fans really nice), and for the next few years, kept asking me to sell it. I told him I couldn't, since he'd Autographed it to my wife. But after I had it Digitized and Coded as a VIDEO-TS Folder, I sent him a copy. albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 15:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh crap... did I scare you folks?

albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 01:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)