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Your submission at Articles for creation: Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist (September 6)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Hermera34 was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Unable to determine if this person meets the notability requirements of a scholar without valid third-party sources. Please review WP:NSCHOLAR and WP:CITE for further information. For example, funeral home obituary do not count as that of periodical, such as a journal or newspaper. Also, do not list the complete bibliography of the scholar, just a few of his key publications, not all of them.

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Hermera34 (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Martha.Savage, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Hermera34 (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist. Thanks! joe decker ^talk 17:14, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist (April 18)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.

This submission appears to be taken from https://www.bradleyfuneralhomes.com/descendant/299580/Evan/. Wikipedia cannot accept material copied from elsewhere, unless it explicitly exists under a compatible licence and is written in an acceptable tone—this includes material that you own the copyright to. You should attribute the content of a draft to outside sources, using citations, but copying and pasting or closely paraphrasing sources is not acceptable. The entire draft should be written using your own words and structure.

You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.

Draft:Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist may be deleted at any time unless the copied text is removed. Copyrighted work cannot be allowed to remain on Wikipedia.
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joe decker ^talk 17:17, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist has been accepted[edit]

Evan O'Neill Kane, Physicist, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

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joe decker ^talk 02:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kelly Robert Savage (March 15)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GRuban was:

The relevant policy is called WP:BIO1E. Click on that link to explain it, but basically we don't write biographies about people notable for a single event, in this case the way he died. Now you cite a huge amount of international coverage of his death, so it is possible we could have an article about that event, but I'm not sure. The main issue that makes me not sure is the WP:LASTING part of Wikipedia:Notability (events); his death got a lot of coverage, but did it lead to any actual change? I am not quite sure; but I am quite sure that just this biography article about the person won't fly.

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GRuban (talk) 18:22, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Kelly Robert Savage[edit]

Hello, Martha.Savage. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Kelly Robert Savage".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Sam Sailor 20:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

COI or paid editing[edit]

You claim in this edit that you have "already" declared your conflict of interest, but I see no such declaration anywhere in your contribution history.

If you are being compensated in any way to edit on Wikipedia, you must comply with WP:PAID before you do anything else here. This is a mandatory legal requirement to which you agreed when you created your account here. Consider this a serious warning; any other activity on Wikipedia before you address this concern will result in your account being blocked.

Otherwise, what association do you have with the subjects you have been writing about? ~Anachronist (talk) 23:03, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From Martha: I can't see the exact history any more because the article has been deleted. From memory, this is what I did: I declared my conflict of interest at the top of the page where the instructions said to declare it for my draft about my son, Kelly Robert Savage. Then it took several months for somebody to review it. Finally the reviewer said I couldn't write about Kelly because he was famous for a single thing, but I could rewrite it based on the incident (his death in the psychiatric hospital after being tied to his bed for ten days), and the subsequent changes that we have tried to make. They said that the changes needed to be significant. I have been trying to work to make the changes become significant, at which point I planned to revise the page for publication. I would like to have the page back so I could start revising it. I was not warned about losing the page after six months, otherwise I would have revised it earlier.

I am not being paid for any of this. I simply want justice for my son and for the psychiatric establishment in Japan to change their dangerous practices. Publicising the problems is one way I am working on it.

Thank you. On that basis I will restore the draft. And I sympathize with your need to shine a light on a subject that needs publicizing.

Be aware that this is not a memorial site, it's an encyclopedia. It isn't a place to right great wrongs. And it isn't to be used for publicity purposes, ever.

If your son meets notability criteria (that is, he has received significant coverage by independent reliable sources in the context of more than a single event), then he can have an article. As has been pointed out to you, we generally don't have articles on people who are notable for a single event, particularly if the coverage happened all at once and has not persisted. Reframing the article to be about the event rather than the person may be a better approach if the event is notable. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:21, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I found your COI declaration and moved it from the draft article to your user page. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:26, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. I understand and will continue to try to get enough changes to make the event significant. I will probably change the title to be more about the event. [

Your article and sourcing.[edit]

Thanks for your note on my talk page. I am currently writing articles on all female, research-active professors in New Zealand (there are more than I thought; it's taking me a while). Alas I cannot use your CV as a source as wikipedia is a tertiary source and needs to be based on secondary sources, which your CV is categorically not. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:55, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've extracted the links from the page history and added them to Martha Savage as well as adding some categories. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:08, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thanks! Martha.Savage (talk) 04:44, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]