User talk:Kjysoi4

December 2019[edit]

Your addition to Isidore Mankofsky has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. * Copy-paste from http://www.afana.org/mankofsky.htm "Copyright (c) 2017 Geoff Alexander All rights reserved." Dennis Bratland (talk) 00:48, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition to George Kaczender has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. copy-paste from https://books.google.com/books?id=wLMxASznLzoC&pg=PA169 "© 2010 Geoff Alexander. All rights reserved." Dennis Bratland (talk) 01:01, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for violating copyright policy by copying text or images into Wikipedia from another source without evidence of permission. Please take this opportunity to ensure that you understand our copyright policy and our policies regarding how to use non-free content. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. -- ferret (talk) 01:25, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

{{unblock|reason=I am Geoff Alexander, copyright holder of the book in question Kjysoi4 (talk) 02:40, 8 December 2019 (UTC)}[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Kjysoi4 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I, Geoff Alexander also own the afana.org website On Wikipedia, therefore I'm quoting myself Kjysoi4 (talk) 02:45, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

The book unambiguously says "All rights reserved". So does the website. Wikipedia does not accept non-free content of this type. If you want to release the content under a free license, the way to do so is explained at WP:Donating copyrighted content. Regarding this block, whether or not you are Alexander, we'll need the assurance that you will not add non-free content to Wikipedia again, not even content that you authored yourself. Huon (talk) 02:59, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

OK, please confirm that I'm understanding this correctly, as it's only my third day editing on Wikipedia. My understanding now is that I may refer to my books or the afana.org website (or any copyrighted material, for that matter), but may not quote from them directly. Do I have that correct? One of the issues I'm dealing with is updating filmographies. Others are using filmographies from my afana.org website on Wikipedia to update the pages of various filmmakers and that's fine with me. So how would I go about updating filmographies on Wikipedia without citing book or web references? My aim is to contribute updated information to Wikipedia that will enhance public knowledge of the filmmakers that are the focus of much of my historical work. I want to get this right so we can move forward. I'd appreciate a clarification, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjysoi4 (talk • contribs) 03:18, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's two things you should read up on: conflict of interest, and copying.

Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources, Wikipedia:Non-free content, and Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing explain the boundaries on how much you can copy-paste from any source (it doesn't matter who you are, original author or not). The best bet is always original prose that isn't a close paraphrase. If you must copy, you have to clearly identify the quoted part, and not quote too much.
Wikipedia:Conflict of interest (COI) is the issue when you're citing your own works. Citing yourself is allowed, provided what you are citing would meet the standards of reliable sources, and you are not overly self-promoting. It can be tricky.

I'm not an admin and it's not my decision to unblock you before the 72 hours is up. In my opinion it's easiest, and less unpleasant, to never edit on topics you have a personal or business connection to. Cite other experts rather than yourself, edit on other topics you enjoy but have nothing to gain from, and editing is much more fun. If you choose to edit in a way that involves a COI, you have to expend a lot of time and energy making sure you aren't crossing the lines, and even when you don't, everybody is all suspicious that maybe you did, so that cloud is always hanging over. Only my opinions. REad the pages I linked to for the actual policies, guidelines and/or essays/advice. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 04:00, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your answer, Dennis. I'm considered to the expert on my topic, and the website is non-profit, so I'll just let others handle film updates on Wikipedia from now on. I've already got lots of exposure on Wikipedia so really don't need any more anyway. I'll keep my edits to other topics in the future, much easier for all of us that way. Wikipedia's a great source, and thanks for your volunteer time in helping to enhance it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjysoi4 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd encourage you to comment on talk pages, making suggestions and offering expert advice. There's little risk of violating COI rules if you go to Talk:Isidore Mankofsky and point out your source and explain why the article would be better if information were added. You can guide and assist other editors without directly changing the article in a way that might seem to be self-serving. Sometimes you can't get through to anyone, and there's not much to gain by pressing the issue, but Wikipedia is written on a geologic time scale; eventually someone will come around and set it right. It can take a while. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:42, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]