User talk:Jonesey95

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Query

Hello, Jonesey95,

What do you think Template:Nearest meighbour for whole page/style.css is for? Misspelling? I also don't understand how this editor moved this template without leaving a redirect. That usually only happens if the editor is a Page Mover. But since you know so much about templates (and when pages are mistakenly placed in Template space), I thought you might know. I just happened to spot it on the Move log. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

I have sorted it, I think. When I moved the .css page to the correct name, I noticed that "Leave a redirect behind" is grayed out, as is the checkbox to the left of that option. My wild guess is that CSS pages can't be redirects or targets of redirects, so the normal page mover rights do not apply. A bigger WP CSS nerd than I, like Izno or Redrose64, might know something like that. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

CSS files - including those in user space - must be valid CSS as defined in the various CSS specs. There is no concept of redirection in those standards. What they do have is the ability to import one CSS file in another, and I do this at User:Redrose64/common.css - it's the very first line. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Annual report notes

Hi Jonesey; re your notes on the GOCE annual report here, the figures you flagged as possibly inaccurate are for requests submitted from 1 January to 31 December, inclusive. The figures above that line refer to those processed from 1 Jan to 31 Dec, inclusive. The percentage you flagged in the header refers to these stats (I've now corrected the latter point). Does this make sense or am I wrong? Math(s) was never my strong point!

Also, what to do about the unwritten "Closing words" section? Would you or Miniapolis like to write some closing text? If no-one's bothered, I can remove it before sending. I don't want to tread on any toes, particularly those of the Lede Coord, which is partly why I've left the report alone for a week. But if I leave it too long, nothing gets sent out, which is sad. Thanks for your input there, btw. :) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Template:Peso

"Not guilty, your honour". A category was removed in the edit preceding mine; all I did was change the template. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Mattythewhite: Motion denied (or some other legalism). The /doc subpage contains a category, which is the normal place for template categories to live. When you stopped transcluding it, the template page no longer had a category. I'm fine with your edit; just remember to move the category to the template page (inside the noinclude tags). – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:21, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Template:CSS image crop/Sandbox

For the record, all that was was me trying to figure out - by looking at the differing source code between the mobile and non-mobile sites - why they acted differently. Ended in figuring it out and finding this fix, which fixed the bug. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.8% of all FPs.} 20:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad you found that fix. If you scroll up on the page, you can see that I worked on a fix in 2022 and made some progress, but if you have fixed it the rest of the way, that is super. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's the most efficient fix: I wasn't sure if the first div that only exists if Location=center was actually necessary after the change (it even adds a </div> at the bottom only if Location=center to accomodate it), but just in case that was fixing some other use case, I went with the minimal change. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.8% of all FPs.} 22:58, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Smart. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

By the way, what do you think of my new template for making CSS image crop a little easier to use, {{Easy CSS image crop}}. It doesn't do Annotated Image stuff, but that's pretty advanced and rare functionality, and I don't really want to have to learn enough Lua string handling to make Module:ImageRatio work with an annotated image as the input. I'd imagine something like |[%s]*image[%s]*=.[|}] since it returns the shortest match, and then strip everything before the = from that, but ugh. And I'm not sure if I even escaped the | or } correctly. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.8% of all FPs.} 06:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

I saw the discussion, but I don't do advanced work with images much. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

About the 2024 Emperor's Cup edit summary

About the broken syntax, i copied it from the earlier versions of the (section about the participating clubs in the) 2023 Emperor's Cup i retrieved by accident. After further inspection, i believe this mistake was corrected by someone else after i didn't took notice of the "coding error" (i don't know the right term), as the syntax does not present any error in the current version of the (section of) article. I don't think it damaged the article from a visual perspective, though, so i'm relieved. ~~ SoftReverie (talk) 01:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I have seen this syntax more than once, so I figured it was being copied from somewhere. There are still more than 80,000 "missing end tag" errors in articles, of which this was one. Once they are all fixed, there shouldn't be anywhere for editors to copy from, at least in article space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1164849222/1205441415

Hi Jonesey, I've tested this change to {{Infobox rugby biography}}, a protected template, based on {{Infobox person}} formatting of the same parameters. I just thought to check this by with you, in light of my recent issues. Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:36, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Neveselbert, I looked at the sandbox and made a couple of adjustments. Where are the relevant test cases? – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

There's {{Infobox rugby biography/testcases}}, and there doesn't seem to be an issue. Thanks for those adjustments, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

You have not edited the testcases page. Which test cases show that your proposed changes actually work? That's what "relevant" means in this context. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been a bit preoccupied. I assumed it works seeing {{Infobox rugby biography/testcases#Test case}}, with there not being any visible issues, as well as through previewing certain pages such as Barry John with the sandbox version. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 16:51, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Where is the test case showing multiple positions that shows the "(s)"? If you have a conditional statement, you need to test at least two possible conditions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I tested that through Special:ExpandTemplates. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

I'll be frank. Your track record means that I can only trust your changes if you show your work. Add a test case to the test cases page that shows your new code working when all of the modified labels should be pluralized. Add or modify another that shows all of the modified labels as singular. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:26, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

 Special:Diff/1207765901 ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

That shows one condition in one parameter, AFAICT. There are four labels to test, each with two possible conditions (plural or not). – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it's just worth doing the one parameter for now, since that's the only that's been bothering me. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

OK. Change the sandbox and test cases page accordingly. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: I've reverted the change to the live template, as I think we've miscommunicated. I assumed that, since I had consulted with you and you voiced no further objections after two weeks, as well as the fact that I had both successfully sandboxed and testcased the changes, that it would be OK to implement the changes. Primefac seemed to confirm that the change was OK, before later reverting himself on the same grounds. You haven't provided any further clarity on this, and I feel as if I'm being given the cold shoulder. If you're not interested in mentoring me on sandboxing/testcasing, I'd appreciate if you could clarify that. I've responded to your message on my talkpage regarding my promise, which I did not in fact breach as I clarified, but I accept that I ought to sandbox/testcase all such changes in future regardless if the template is protected or not, and I can promise to do so going forward. I hope you can try and bear with me here, as I am trying. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:43, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I didn't see this discussion before I reinstated the edit, which is why I reverted. The edit looks fine to me, but it seemed like part of a "test first before implementing" scheme and I didn't want to get in the way of that. Primefac (talk) 20:32, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

No worries, Primefac. I am washing my hands of this one. Anyone who wants to enhance that template should make some sandbox edits and then start a thread on the template's talk page explaining what they propose to change and why. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bolivian Stock Exchange

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Intro/interlude as uncredited songwriters/producers

Hi @Jonesey95. There's recent discussion about for suggesting leave blanking only for intro/interlude as uncredited songwriters/producers. If you have time, your comments would be appreciated. Regards. 2001:D08:2952:70C:17B3:1883:ECAA:A9CE (talk) 11:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For your work on templates affecting Portal links Lyndaship (talk) 16:33, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Lyndaship, thank you! I had fun tracking that one down. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

thx

thx for the cleanup
pandaqwanda (talk) 17:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC) (added a link to the diff pandaqwanda (talk) 17:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC))

You're welcome. The syntax problem was an obscure one; I tried to retain the formatting that you appeared to want. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Cavin's Milkshake for deletion

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February blitz bling

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 6,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE February 2024 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 21:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

HTML close p tag removals

Hello Jonesey95,

In this edit, you removed several instances of </p>. Why? When I used to use the p tag, I would sometimes get yelled at for not closing them. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

It looks to me like I added closing p tags in that edit. I try not to yell at editors, but the MediaWiki software does sometimes complain a bit on the "Page information" page if there are unclosed p tags present. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, misread the diff, you fixed the unclosed p tags. SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:54, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

One more adjustment to Infobox professional wrestling promotion

Hi Jonesey95,
Thank you so much for your previous assistance with Template:Infobox professional wrestling promotion. Can I request an additional adjustment? Can you make it so that |split = example produces "Split from" rather than "Split" when it renders in the infobox? I'd be much obliged, CeltBrowne (talk) 13:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Sure. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:24, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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Template:ISBN missing

Hi Jonesey, do you think you could have a look at making this template substitutable, like {{Page needed}}? Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 11:53, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Why? It's an in-line cleanup template that assigns a tracking category. Putting all of the extra stuff directly into a page does not make sense to me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Because I don't think it's automatically dated by a bot, and it's easier just to type {{subst:ISBN?}} rather than having to go to the documentation and copy the full code. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 14:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

This conversation should happen at the template's talk page. Since the |date= parameter does not appear to do anything, and it does not appear to be used often, why not just remove it? – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:14, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

By the way, I tried to subst {{page needed}}, and it did not work. I think you may be operating on multiple faulty premises. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

It does work though, as can be demonstrated in preview/diff mode. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Please show a diff in which {{page needed}} has been substed. I did it here (the second instance was a subst) and it did not subst for me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

That's the substitution, adding the date. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Ah, mildly interesting. I had put in the date myself, so there was no change. Anyway, it seems pointless if a bot will fill in the date later, and irrelevant to {{ISBN?}}, where the date does nothing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I wouldn't remove it myself without consulting others, as I agreed. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Help with TFD

Hello, Jonesey95,

I wanted to nominate the template at the bottom of Coptic Orthodox Church in South America for consideration at TFD but I can't find the page that it is on. When I click V or E, it takes me to a generic template page for templates about the Americas. Can you either point me to the right, specific template page so I can nominate it or post the nomination yourself? It's just a collection of red links for a small church that is highly unlikely to expand throughout a large region in the coming future. Thanks! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

That navbox is generated using a sort of meta-template that creates a navbox for any topic provided. There is no guarantee when you give it a term that there will be a collection of articles on that topic. The template documentation provides brief guidance: Examples of inappropriate articles for these templates are .... I could create a one-off navbox instance called "Blue-faced species of bananas in the Americas" by transcluding the template at the bottom of a page, and it would be all red. In this case, I think your only option is to remove the navbox from the article if all of the redlinks bother you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:59, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

There is so much I don't know about how templates work. That's why I rarely ever venture into TFD. Thank you for the explanation. Since there is no existing template for this subject, I think I'll let it be since it likely only exists on this page. Thanks again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Template question

Hi there. I see you and User:Frietjes are skilled with templates. At Template:US Census population, would it be possible to add an option so this template could also lay horizontally, or in columns?

I mostly edit US city articles, and very often this lengthy template pokes deep into the bottom of an article, such as Hamilton, Georgia.

Template:Historical populations, by comparison, has options such as columns and horizontal layout.

Is this possible? Thanks! --Magnolia677 (talk) 11:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

It looks like the latter template is usable for US settlement populations. I don't know how to program in Lua, so I would not be able to modify Template:US Census population in this way. Personally, I think the pure horizontal layout inhibits comparison of the numbers from year to year, but I see your point about the length of the article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:23, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Magnolia677, we could probably make Template:US Census population a wrapper for Template:Historical populations which would allow you to use the horizontal or cols options. I agree that the vertical layout is better. for long tables, I usually use |cols=2 or |cols=3 with Template:Historical populations. if we made Template:US Census population a wrapper, these options would be supported. Frietjes (talk) 15:05, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

@Frietjes: That would really help with those short articles that have a long history of settlement. Should I leave it with you, or open a discussion on the template talk page? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 15:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

@Frietjes: It would help at Walden, New York too. I tried adding "|cols=2", but no luck. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:35, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Template page move

Can you move Template:WikiProject Writing/Sign up to Template:WikiProject Writing sign up and Template:WikiProject Writing sign up to Template:WikiProject Writing sign up/sign (or something) as it better shows the template connections this way. Gonnym (talk) 11:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

I have boldly moved all of the pages to Wikipedia space, since they are single-use project pages that don't really behave like transcluded templates with parameters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:48, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Edit notice

Thank you for this; it makes an immediate and positive difference. I have to say that while i don't remember if we've actually interacted previously, i know that i have learned from your technical ability and have, as in this case, taken information or tweaks you have suggested and used them. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 08:39, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad I have been able to help. Thanks for the nice note. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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DYK nominations with missing end tags

In response to your query "Why does this keep happening?" in this edit, the problem is <small>...</small> tags spanning multiple lines in Module:NewDYKnomination here:

<small>${STATUS} by ${AUTHORS}. ${NOMINATED} at ~~~~~.

Number of QPQs required: ${QPQS_REQUIRED}

Post-promotion hook changes [[User:GalliumBot#darn|will be logged]] on the talk page; consider [[Help:Watchlist|watching]] the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.</small>

I could fix it myself by bracketing the three lines with {{smalldiv}}, but I'd rather leave it to someone with more experience with modules than me. —Bruce1ee^talk 08:16, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

I had already worked around it with an explanation and a link to more information in my edit summary, but my edit was undone by SD0001, who did not appear to understand that the invalid syntax was causing errors in every new DYK page created with that Module. I have implemented a different fix with div tags. {{Smalldiv}} would probably also work, but I am never sure whether I can use templates directly in a Lua module. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks ... —Bruce1ee^talk 12:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Can you please assume good faith? This was an edit I did manually when I saw that new nominations were now including irrelevant text in full size rather than small. I did not see that was because of your lint-fixing edit.

Also, if you are going to make such edits in templates, can you kindly ensure that the presentation remains unaffected? People put effort in formatting templates to ensure the necessary details catch attention and others don't. It's not acceptable to change the formatting to make a lint error go away. Using the div tag looks like the correct fix, thanks! – SD0001 (talk) 13:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

I usually try to preserve the appearance, but sometimes the original editor's intent, especially when they use in-line tags to span multiple lines, is not clear. (A variant of the above assertion could be that it is not acceptable to introduce a syntax error just to get a page to look a certain way.) It looks like I guessed wrong this time. I'm glad we ended up with mutually acceptable markup. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

That edit of mine you fixed...

At some point after that edit, I realized stuff like that was happening, and cleaned up most (I thought all) of the instances where that occurred. However, you obviously found one of the instances where I did not fix the issue. I have since added a "[^']" into my search regex, making my search "[^'],'''''" instead of ",'''''" so it doesn't return pages with an apostrophe before the comma. Steel1943 (talk) 21:49, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. That formatting was bizarre before your edits, so it is understandable that strange things happened. Thanks for trying to prevent it in the future. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

West Bengal Film Journalists' Association Award for Best Actress

You removed a {{border}} from West Bengal Film Journalists' Association Award for Best Actress, with edit summary "Please RTFM. Template:Border is for wrapping text. It uses span tags, so it can't wrap div-based elements." This article had a bunch of {{border}}'d [[File]] calls; the one you removed was a {{border}} around {{CSS image crop}}, which was the only one causing a div-span-flip. Another user reverted you; I reverted that user, but that left all images but the cropped one with borders, so I removed all of the borders. It's strange that {{border}} generates div-span-flip lint errors around cropped images but not around regular images. —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Anomalocaris: Regular images don't use <div>...</div> elements any more. They used to, but the MediaWiki software was altered at some point in the last few months so that images are enclosed in <figure>...</figure> elements. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for merger of Template:Cite GREC

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March 2024 GOCE drive award

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 4,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE March 2024 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 08:44, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

barnstar for thanks

thanks for the search query help for typos [1] Tonymetz 💬 23:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC) !

IMO?

Hi, very minor question. You offered advice recently on Miniapolis talk page, re: resolving dispute over c/e, and mentioned "the wrong IMO". What means IMO? I checked WP Abbr, Glossary, and Edit summary legend page, but couldn't find, and google had too many high freq irrelev hits. Context was: sentences with awkward usage, one w/ verb tense, the other awk serial semicolons. Thanks! — Yogabear2020 (N.B. NoviceEditor; Talk) 00:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

It's an early internet initialism for "in my opinion". See List of acronyms: I#IMO. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Great, thanks, didn't think of checking there. — Yogabear2020 (N.B. NoviceEditor; Talk) 01:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Six years!

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Guild of Copy Editors April 2024 Newsletter

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Adding date stamp for archiving. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

User talk:Qwerfjkl/Archive 41#Thanks for Linter bot task 27

Forgot about this, I'm afraid. Anyway, I should be mostly free now, so I'm happy to help out. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:37, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

For a quick batch of many thousands of errors, I suggest the "Why can't I edit Wikipedia?" substed message explained at User:MalnadachBot/Signature submissions#Missing end tags. They come in a few variants; I have some regexes for the variants I have encountered in the "Block messages" section in my User:Jonesey95/AutoEd/doi.js file. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. It looks to me that the easiest way to handle this is to get the list of pages, check each page section for the "Why can't I edit Wikipedia?" part that seems consistent between them, and simply replace that ection with the corrected version, which should take care of any variations. Are there any issues with doing this? I'd need to make sure to keep the signature and anything below that, but that should be doable, especially if the <!-- Template:Uw-spamublock --> is always present. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I have found that using the regexes I linked to does the trick for me. If you have another method that you like and that is reliable, that seems fine to me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

When I ran the regexes I got edits like Special:Diff/1219573467 and Special:Diff/1219573457. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

It looks like the first one is valid but incomplete, and the second one is a complete, valid edit. In the first one, a p tag was missed. It looks like an additional or modified regex is needed. Replacing the whole section might be valid; I prefer to make as few display changes as possible when fixing these syntax errors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I assumed the stray </br> was invalid in the second diff. — Qwerfjkltalk 19:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Removal of that malformed /br tag does not appear to affect the rendered text. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:28, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

BRFA filed. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Pretty much done now (13 pages left on the search). — Qwerfjkltalk 17:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Great work! I checked all of the remaining pages, and about half of them were false positives. I fixed the rest. This task is complete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

April 2024 GOCE blitz award

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 2,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE April 2024 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 03:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Div flip

I can't figure this divflip error out. Template:Letter A few hundred issues due to the two errors on the template, and I don't want to just hack at it with test edits. Cheers, Zinnober9 (talk) 23:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

One trick is to look inside the templates being used. Nowrap is a span template, and Smalldiv, which I created to solve thousands of misnested small tags back in 2018 or so, uses div tags. So this worked. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Nowrap... of course. With template code not triggering when passed through LintHint, and all the code looking tidy but so very nested, it's just not as easy to read as some other errors. Thank you again! Zinnober9 (talk) 01:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Template display

I'm going to suspect that you'll get reverted on User:Airtransat236/sandbox/template as that's essentially the same edit I made. I think they want it to appear as {{{text_1}}} left half, {{{text_2}}} right half, as seen here and objected to the corrective edit which for some reason made both appear as 25% width, both on the left half of the page, but they didn't outright state such. I haven't thought of how to keep the 50-50%. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:44, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up on User:Airtransat236/sandbox/template. I have fixed the width of the diff row. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

The remaining few table errors, other than User:Halibutt/Archive 15 (which I'll see if Primefac will assist with), boggle my brain at the moment, so if you understand them, all yours if you want them. Thanks for getting a number of other pages the last couple of days; I had gotten to a point where the remaining set of pages were a little puzzling and weren't as intuitive. Zinnober9 (talk) 22:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I've been chipping away at them. They were mostly easy to medium until these last dozen or so. Some of them required digging through and modifying User subpages, which is always fun. I spent a few minutes on each of those lsat few and decided to work on something easier, and now they are all that is left. I know that I'll be able to fix at least some of them. It may take a few days. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Well, it turns out all I needed was a snack. I fixed the rest of them, leaving only the protected page, User:Halibutt/Archive 15, listed at User:AnomieBOT/PERTable. Perhaps WOSlinker or Primefac would be willing to get the glory of fixing the last page on this list. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I asked Primefac about it and some other Full Protected pages that appeared on Wikipedia:Linter/reports/Protected pages by Lint Errors, so one of the three of us will get Halibutt/Archive 15 sometime soon. I don't mind who.

While I'm here, Portal:Maine got its layout malformed on Feb 24th. I've poked at it a little with edit preview, but haven't sorted it out if you want it. Zinnober9 (talk) 03:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Portals are the spawn of the devil. I fixed a few hundred or thousand (I have blocked out the memory) portal page errors back in 2022, getting the count down to a reasonable value, but the pages appear back in the report over time even when they are not edited. I became convinced, without any real evidence, that in order to fix Portal pages, we need to get article space down to zero errors first. I've mostly left the space alone since then. That said, I cleaned up a bunch of sloppiness at Portal:Maine. Editors, including myself, should use Preview more and inspect their edits after saving. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:57, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Now I remember one thing about Portal pages: the stripped tags often appear to be spurious or false positives. Most other errors can be tracked down with the help of the ExpandTemplates page, although it can be tricky to read all of the nested divs and tables. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

It was the big empty space and the stuff shoved to the left I was hoping you saw the fix for, but Portals are certainly evil from the code standpoint, and it's fine if you didn't. Feel like reverting to WOSlinker's revision is a bit too overkill for the layout issue so far, but might come down to it if it's still wonky later. Zinnober9 (talk) 13:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

The big empty space actually has some images in it for a quarter of a second, and then it goes blank. I can't be bothered if the primary maintainer of the page doesn't seem to care (and there are no Linter errors). – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Protection dropped on the requested pages. Primefac (talk) 06:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Zinnober9 (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Since apparently you did not subscribe

I am moving this to your talk page, since you are the one not acknowledging an error. Happy editing indeed.

Your edit summary gave me a smile. Unfortunately, I used the word "bogus" in a neutral, objective way in my edit summary. See Special:LintErrors/bogus-image-options. If you have a problem with your edits being associated with that word, your beef is with the WMF staff, not with me. Happy editing! – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Awww and here I was hoping it was "good-faith patroller" that gave you a smile. I do think that that's you, but wasn't there some sort of decision after the last time not to edit people's work as they are working it? It's pretty disruptive frankly. I dunno what dialect of English that developer speaks -- and I carefully say this in the most neutral way possible, as a translator who deals with dialects -- but I agree with this here and with all due respect, it is an insult and I have not given you cause to insult me have I? Recently at least?

I just looked you up and will try to be a little less colloquial, but frankly, I thought you were British when I wrote the above. This is the problem with automated edits. It dehumanizes other editors. In case you hadn't noticed the article is complex and referenced within an inch of its life because it says that due to regulatory capture indigenous Mexicans with a life expectancy of 39 years are subsidizing US agriculture through a peonage system. I am surprised I haven't seen paid editors appear yet to call me a bleeding heart liberal. I would have fixed that caption ten minutes later. The fact that they are crawling on soil that has been pumped full of carcinogens is why the image is there however.

I am not trying to fight with you or give you a hard time. It's just that if you hit Random article, what you get will almost certainly need you more than this article does, and it is being actively worked.

SO. come tell me jokes or funny stories or gossip or, whatever, but if you really really must patrol my work, half a dozen people have done so this week without calling it bogus, and most of them got a thank you.

I would greatly appreciate it if you and your attitude fixed lint errors on some other article thank you very much Elinruby (talk) 08:49, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

No attitude here. I just fix errors. I don't patrol the work of constructive editors like yourself. I usually work from this report. If an article pops up there with an invalid image option or any other high- or medium-priority error, I do my best to fix it. You appear to be manufacturing drama where there is none to be found, which will not help either of us. Happy editing! – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

You appear to be refusing to process my best attempts to civilly explain to you that "bogus" is an insult and you should not use it. With reference to me in particular in this case, but it would be a violation of the CoC civility policy when applied to anything but (possibly) obvious vandalism. "Manufacturing drama" isn't great either, so I beg to differ about the attitude, which continues to shine through. Please take this constructive criticism on board. If the incivility is caused by software, stop using the software. You and only you are responsible for what you say and do on Wikipedia. Elinruby (talk) 22:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)