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Thank you Seagull, but I am not finding these help pages that easy to understand fully.
I would like to clarify I am proud to be the Grandson of Joseph Cohen who died in 1980, but the Jacey Group of Companies no longer exist (have not done so since 1981), I am now 75 years old and I emigrated when I retired in 2002. So I do not think there is any conflict of interest. I would appreciate it if you could proof read the information (make any changes that will allow it to remain included) and help with adding it to a Joseph Cohen page. My user name is my individual full name (it is not a company name).
http://www.jncohen.net/JaceyGroup/JC-Press.htm this link is a stand alone page on my website that shows photos of press cuttings and pictures. If my links are causing problems I could provide these photos but will need to know how to add them.

Joseph Cohen was a prominent Birmingham solicitor (he continued his legal practice Cohen & Cowen until he was in his late 70's) .

He was also an important property developer, entrepreneur and a cinema proprietor. From the early 1930's he created a number of limited companies, that all became part of The Jacey Group of companies.

He owned the Lissiter's Royal Restaurant and started in property with Jack Cotton as his partner in the early days and the first development undertaken together, was the creation of King Edward House in New Street, Birmingham. They continued with a few successful joint projects that included the building of the Kenilworth Court apartments in Hagley Road, Birmingham. [1]

(Note: Jack Cotton went on to continue, as chairman, to create 'City Centre' the biggest property development company in the world, with a valuation in 1961, on the stock market of £65 million!)

Joseph Cohen continued to develop large blocks of apartments, mainly within the Calthorpe estates area of Birmingham. These included Calthorpe Mansions at five Ways, Norfolk Court at Hagley Road and Moorland Court in Melville Road. He also built a number of houses and had two roads named after him, Jacey Road in Edgbaston and another in Shirley. [2]

The house at 72 Woodbourne Rd. He built 72 Woodbourne Road, Edgbaston as his own family home. He was also involved in Bournemouth with the Jacey House offices in the centre and Tollard Court at West Cliff where he had a ground floor apartment.

He was fascinated with cinemas and film. He began in 1915 (aged 26) together with Sol Levy, when they acquired the screen rights of Ethel M. Dell a popular novelist, but their film company was bought out 2 years later.

During his career he was involved with over 50 cinemas and he built The Wylde Green and The Stirchley Pavilion in Birmingham.

He became a pioneer of the News Theatres and he built up a chain of city centre cinemas, having bought out the Monseigneur group. Jacey Cinemas then controlled the largest group of specialised city centre cinemas in the UK, ranging from Edinburgh to Brighton with several in London's West End.

My father George Cohen (also a solicitor) joined his father Joseph Cohen and ran the company with more cartoons, comedy and short travel/general interest films, later, introducing the best of Continental Feature Films, as TV had taken over providing the News.

The Company diversified by also running cigarette, ice cream and confectionery Kiosks, Restaurants and Coffee Bars. Later a specialised shopping Art and Antique Gallery at Marble Arch London, a Riding School Centre and Farm at Pathlow, near Stratford upon Avon. The Jacey Stamp Centre (converted from the cinema by my Father's brother Stanley Cohen) became popular housing a number of dealers of modern postage stamps for collectors. Lastly, Stanley Cohen formed Jacey Stamps trading in Modern UK Stamps with printing errors.

HERE IS WHAT I PREPARED: -
Condensed for readability

Joseph Cohen

Joseph Cohen was born 22nd June 1889 in Birmingham - 1980 Birmingham UK


Joseph Cohen continued with his property development interests with the formation of the Jacey Gillis Properties Ltd in Scotland with Harold Gillis.

The Joseph Cohen Hall, was named after him at the side of Singers Hill Synagogue, Ellis Street, Birmingham B1 1HL - This is the same Synagogue as Oscar Deutsch and Jack Cotton attended.

He was involved in The King David School, Hillel House and responsible for all the Stained Glass Windows at the Singers Hill Synagogue.

He was extremely successful and his generosity was well known and much appreciated in so many circles. He achieved high Rank in Masonry and was a founder member of a New Lodge of Faith and Hope. He supported many charities in addition to the Jewish Community of Birmingham and in recognition of this, he was invited to one of the Queen's occasions at Buckingham Palace.

References

  1. ^ http://www.jncohen.net/JaceyGroup/JC-Press.htm
  2. ^ http://www.moorlandcourt.co.uk/Moorland%20Court%20-%20a%20History.htm
John Neville Cohen (talk) 14:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Being the grandson of someone fits right into the definition of a conflict of interest (i.e. by being related). However, you cannot simply add information about your grandfather to a page about a completely unrelated Joseph Cohen. I see you have a sandbox draft, so if you decide that your grandfather meets the Golden Rule please add the {{subst:submit}} template to the top of the page. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 17:46, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to leave a question at the Teahouse, but each time when I submit, it just vanishes! I wish someone would look at the links provided and read my article and then help - as I am finding this all far too difficult. John Neville Cohen (talk) 19:26, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I mean no offence and I'm sorry to have to say this, but judging by Draft:Joseph Cohen (entrepreneur) and this discussion from over 4 years ago, I think it is very unlikely that your grandfather was notable in the Wikipedia sense,. A great man? Almost certainly. Sufficiently covered in a non-trivial fashion (not mentioned in passing) by multiple reliable sources? Given the information you've provided, probably not. If you can't find the required sources perhaps you should just write a eulogy and publish it on a blog somewhere?
By the way, if Mr Cohen really is notable, somebody else will probably write the article about him at some point. When that role falls to the subject of an article or a relative, it raises eyebrows as Primefac mentioned.
Have you seen the article The Electric, Birmingham? Your grandfather is mentioned there. --kingboyk (talk) 04:17, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joseph Cohen (entrepreneur) (December 19)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:
This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Onel5969 TT me 18:33, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Hello! John Neville Cohen, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Onel5969 TT me 18:33, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]


SOME LINKS FOUND ABOUT JOSEPH COHEN THAT I WISH TO SAVE HERE. Birmingham Hebrew Congregation, Stained Glass Windows, Souvenir Booklet 1963 Introduction by Philip Bloom about The Singers Hill Windows.... "The Window Scheme was the brain child of a man who has already been honoured by a Plaque in the Synagogue; yet the few well chosen words appearing on the plaque could hardly give an adequate indication of the amount of time and endeavour spent by Joseph Cohen in the production of those windows."

Foreword, by Rev. Dr. Chaim Pearl, M.A. PH.D. "I would only add for the record, my own deep admiration of Mr Joseph Cohen who was the main inspiration behind the entire project, from beginning to end." http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/Community/b00-bhc/brochures/windows_part03_pages1-6.pdf


18th March 2015 CHABADINFO.COM NEWS Singers Hill Reopens Synagogue "... Chief Rabbi Mirvis would proclaim Singers Hill as one of the most important Jewish buildings in the United Kingdom.” "Following the service, 175 adults, teens and children, all gathered in the Joseph Cohen hall to celebrate, ..." Photographs of Singers Hill Synagogue Birmingham UK http://chabadinfo.com/news/singers-hill-reopens-synagogue/


AJR Volume XXX No. 11, November 1975 INFORMATION Page 3 'Funds for local Needs' "Mr. Joseph Cohen, an elder statesman of the Birmingham Jewish Community said at the annual meeting of the city's largest congregation, Singers Hill Synagogue ..." - "...For more than 50 years, Mr Cohen has been a substantial benefactor of almost every local charity and of the Jewish Agency." http://www.ajr.org.uk/journalpdf/1975_november.pdf


The Joseph Cohen Trophy & The Joseph Cohen Hall The Joseph Cohen Hall is used for a variety of events, located at the side of Singers Hill Synagogue, including Table tennis. https://www.tabletennis365.com/Birmingham/Venue/534/Joseph_Cohen_Hall

brijnet.org Birmingham Communal Details The Representative Council of Birmingham & Midland Jewry Birmingham Jewish Recorder "...the Joseph Cohen Trophy is presented to a writer who has contributed a series of articles during the year." http://www.brijnet.org/birmingham/communaldetails.html

John Neville Cohen (talk) 15:33, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Joseph Cohen (entrepreneur) has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Joseph Cohen (entrepreneur). Thanks! SwisterTwister talk 05:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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