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Your submission at Articles for creation: Vladimir Logutov (August 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Jamiebuba were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Jamiebuba (talk) 05:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Gzub4ik! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Jamiebuba (talk) 05:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jamiebuba! What can I do to make the article better? There's an article about this artist in Russian Wiki

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80

So this is not an advertisment, he is an influantial and well known artist here in Russia. I tried to do my English article about him more informative, with more facts about his artistic practices then in Russian article and I'm surprised that it's not enough for English version of the article.

Maybe I should put more links from English resources? Gzub4ik (talk) 08:00, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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AfC notification: Draft:Vladimir Logutov has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Vladimir Logutov. Thanks! Hoary (talk) 01:44, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Hoary! Thank you very much for your comment. I don't quite understand why it is necessary to remove external links from the article. What's wrong with them? Gzub4ik (talk) 12:12, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

External links to worthwhile web pages and PDFs are welcome, of course -- but only within references. (A small number may be OK within a list of "External links", and there are a very few other possibilities. But these needn't concern us here.) But you use them in the main text, for example He also worked as a curator for the [https://artsfera.org/en/about-foundation/ SPHERE Contemporary Art Foundation], Moscow (2014-2022). This isn't acceptable. -- Hoary (talk) 23:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the answer. Now I understand. Gzub4ik (talk) 09:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Vladimir Logutov has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Vladimir Logutov. Thanks! Hoary (talk) 01:46, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Hoary! The fact is that I am a journalist and I write about contemporary art. Accordingly, I am familiar with many artists, including Vladimir Logutov. This is a rather narrow circle of people, a narrow environment. I just wrote about what is close to me. About the artist. However, I am not his friend and I wrote the article on my own initiative. As for the photos, he has permission to use the portrait from the photographer Matteo Lonardi, so he gave it to me and I published the photo as mine, but signed that the photographer is Matteo Lonardi. Gzub4ik (talk) 12:09, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for telling me this. I'm about to remove the COI template. But unfortunately what you say raises another problem. If Matteo Lonardi is the "author" (photographer), then (i) the photo is not your "own work", and (ii) Lonardi is the person who must contact Wikimedia Commons to say that the photo may be used (and not only on Wikipedia, but also anywhere else). He'll be able to do so in Russian or Italian; but if he's an acquaintance of an acquaintance, then for you to persuade him to do this could be more troublesome than for you to take a photograph that really would be your "own work". -- Hoary (talk) 23:47, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hoary, thank you very much for your clarification. I didn't seem to understand how the copyright system works here. I'll think about the best way to do it. Since I interview artists and sometimes make pictures of them, I have portraits of Logutov from several exhibitions by my own. Perhaps it makes sense to actually post my own picture. Gzub4ik (talk) 09:40, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Vladimir Logutov has been accepted[edit]

Vladimir Logutov, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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_Signed, Pichemist ^{( Contribs | Talk )} 16:49, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vladimir Logutov moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Vladimir Logutov, is not suitable as written to remain published. It appears there is a WP:UPE or WP:COI conflict. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, and have addressed the UPE/COI issue, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. As per WP policy, please do not move into mainspace yourself. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:51, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Vladimir Logutov[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:03, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Vladimir Logutov[edit]

Hello, Gzub4ik. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Vladimir Logutov".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:18, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]