User talk:DuaneCampbell1
The claims on the Cesar Chavez on violence toward undocumented immigration are of limited merit. It did not happen that way. Chavez and Huerta spent years teaching citizenship classes and helping undocumented workers to become citizens. The UFW continues this today. Chavez did oppose the Bracero or Guest Worker program as it existed. The case you are referring to was when there was a strike and large numbers of undocumented were brought across the border to break the strike. The UFW and Chavez opposed the use of undocumented workers to break a strike. There is no evidence to support your claims of his advocating violence. You can find documents on this in The Fight in the Fields: Cesar Chavez and the Farmworkers Movement.(1997) by Susan Ferriss and Ricardo Sandoval. It was a cruel and difficult fight. But, to claim that Cesar Chavez opposed undocumented workers is simply false. It is a part of the organized campaign at present to expel the thousands of farmworkers presently harvesting the crops.
In these claims, the sources for items 4-6 & 7, are legitimate sources. However, they do not support the claim. They are simply historical sources and do not support the claims made here.
On April 10 these false claims have again been placed in the article.
I checked with the source, I asked the author, and I looked at other sources. They are not substantiated. These insertions are a part of a political campaign by anti immigrant groups in the U.S. to create a myth.
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The claims below about immigration have little evidence in support. Sources 4, 5, 6 and 7 are legitimate sources, but they do not support this claim. Source 8 talks about the issue, but makes no claim.
- The claim by Reed Irving in "Accuracy in the Media," is one of the major right wing sources in the U.S.
- The one source that supports these claims is a direct quote from a column by Ruben Navarette. He makes the claims without offering evidence in support.
- The other source from the Orange County Register is the satirical column "Ask a Mexican." It is not to be used as historical evidence.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Joseph M. Schwartz[edit]
Hello DuaneCampbell1,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Joseph M. Schwartz for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks,
I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 03:44, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
OK. I will re write and remove the copyright material. Duane Campbell
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- Hello Duane, you seem to have some confusion as to what we're asking for in terms of "sourcing". An encyclopedia is a "tertiary source", that is we provide summaries/compilation of existing coverage of a topic. So what we need to see in Schwartz's case is not that he has written book X or Y (anyone can write a book), but that significant people/groups have discussed his books, career, impact, etc.
- Oberve, for example, this GoogleBooks search [1] which shows a number of books of political science, social history, etc that appear to mention this Schwartz. This is what you need. Any given claim about Schwartz's impact, accomplishments, etc. should ideally be backed up by a media article or book citation which backs up that fact. Ideally the works should be not personally/ideologically tied to him, so while it's fine to cite DSA as saying "he fills XYZ position at DSA", you shouldn't use DSA for more abstract things like "he had a huge impact on Legislation 235 in the Senate" (fictional example), because for that we want independent observers to make an unbiased observation.
- Just a quick bit of advice off the cuff; does this help to clear up where our concerns lie? MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:42, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the thoughts. I will get back to you with a more detailed response.
Duane Campbell
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I continued to work on the submission. Per your feedback;
Thank you for the feedback. I do assume good intentions. I have resubmitted the entry as per recommendations as best I can understand them. Reliable sources. Your guidelines.
• Material such as an article, book, monograph, or research paper that has been vetted by the scholarly community is regarded as reliable. If the material has been published in reputable peer-reviewed sources or by well-regarded academic presses, generally it has been vetted by one or more other scholars. • Professor Schwartz’s two major books are published by two of the leading publishers in the field of political science : Princeton University Press, and Routledge press.
Your guidelines; One can confirm that discussion of the source has entered mainstream academic discourse by checking the scholarly citations it has received in citation indexes.
Professor Schwartz’ two books are discussed extensively and used in numerous references. I find over 80 references and citations. I recommend that you search for Joseph M.Schwartz, The Permanence of the Political. (1995). The second book, The Future of Democratic Equality: Rebuilding Social Solidarity in a Fragmented America. (2009), is more recent and thus has fewer citations. However, there are significant number of citations.
I hope that this responds to your inquiry. I remain willing to provide additional documentation. I can submit to you pages with the citations lists from journals. Please explain how to submit. BTW. I have a doctorate in U.S. history. I have written and published 2 books. One went into 4 editions. With this experience, I find the instructions on referencing works very difficult. I tried the reference wizard.
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I have re-written and sources the draft article on Joseph M. Schwartz using what I understand. The new page is at Articles for Creation/ Joseph M. Schwartz.
One remaining question.
I have used the source templates. The instructions from Wikipedia say to include the following at the end of the submission
References=[edit]
Since I have been writing and re writing, there already are some references listed here. Should I delete them? Then, does the Articles for Creation page create a new list based upon the references in the submission ? Please advise.
03:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)03:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)DuaneCampbell1 (talk) 03:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)DuaneCampbell1 (talk) Duane Campbell. July 24, 2013.
Your submission at AfC Joseph M. Schwartz (July 31)[edit]
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