User talk:Cinematicwl

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button or located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:38, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome[edit]

Hello, Cinematicwl, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} and your question on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

We hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:09, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Next steps[edit]

You may wish to follow the instructions here Wikipedia:AUTOPROB#Problems_in_an_article_about_you to verify your identity. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:31, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can email Wikipedia's Open-Ticket Response Service. Please follow the instructions at WP: FEFS and email info-en-q@wikimedia.org.

Note that verifying your identity generally does nothing other than signal your edits for potential conflict of interest. It gives you zero control over the article content. (However, for example, if there were a question of two personal TP websites, the verification would point us to using your actual official website.)

What it might do is in the question of another formal review of the article (which seems like it may come shortly), persude some wikipedians that because of the borderline nature of the sources and the absolutely non-controversial nature of all of the content, that your desire to delete the article causes them to agree with supporting a deletion. It never works the other way. (ie in a borderline article where the subject says "yes, I want an article about me", the subjects request is normally given zero weight. Nor is the subjects desire to delete an article when the sourced content may be of a nature that lends a bad light on the subject-we dont use article deletion to whitewash). -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is also the question of the relationship between this account and the now-blocked User:Hattock79, which account has posted claims that the account was set up and used by you, then passed on to somebody else to make your article look better ("I am working with Tom Hatton on this and as he created the page a couple of years ago, hence for communication I am logged in to his page") in violation of our rules; which is why that account is now blocked. (For that matter, the only article created by User: Rob King HF was Tom Hatton (actor).) Do you care to comment on any of that, Cinematic? --Orange Mike | Talk 20:25, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just FYI, there is no prohibition of contribution to a page in which there is a personal interest, just (as in the declarations of interest I am sure you deal with all the time that are now required in most medical journals) a requirement that the interest be declared and transparent. I agree that the Article on Joe Goldstein, given the seminal nature of his work and the general applicability to everyday life, is unacceptably short. It might be better to post information and share references on the Talk page first, and wait for an uninvolved editor to add them to Article space. --Anonymous209.6 (talk) 15:56, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Anonymous, i think the potential COI issues with this account are on Tom Hatton (actor) and the Joe Goldstein article COI editors are different. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:05, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]