User talk:Burkeguy

Chzz
Chzz
	Chzz, aged 903
Born	April 1, 42; Alpha Centauri
Body discovered	Area 51
Occupation	Wikipedian
Known for	Sausages, tea
Opponent	None (AYBABTU)
Awards	Goatstar
Website	tea; b3ta

Help request[edit]

Dear Wikipedians,

I am having trouble finding specific formatting information regarding a biographical Wikipedia article I'm currently drafting. In particular, I need to know how to create the basic facts box that typically goes on the right hand side of an article. I also need to know how to add hyperlinks to terms in the text, and how to add photos stored on my computer.

More generally, I'd like a Wikipedia editor or administrator to look over my article and point out any possible COI issues, etc., that would prevent it from being posted successfully.

Many thanks!

--Burkeguy 20:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. That thing is called an infobox - see that link for help. Here is an example;

{{Infobox Person
|name        = Chzz
|image       = Ico specie.png
|caption     = Chzz, aged 903
|image_size    = 50px
|occupation  = [[WP:Wikipedian|Wikipedian]]
|known_for = [[Sausage]]s, [[tea]]
|body_discovered = [[Area 51]]
||networth      = OVER 9000!!!111eleven
|opponents     = None ([[All your base are belong to us|AYBABTU]])
|awards        = [[William Windsor (goat)|Goatstar]]
|religion = [[Flying spaghetti monster|Pastafarian]]
|website       = [http://www.nicecupoftaandasitdown.com tea]<br>[http://www.b3ta.com b3ta]
|birth_date  = {{Birth date|42|04|01}}
|birth_place = [[Alpha Centauri]]
}}

...which gives the box shown here.

You could copy that code into a user subpage, such as user:Burkeguy/test - click that redlink, make that page. You can play around there and test things out.

For more help, you can either;

Leave a message on my own talk page; OR
Use a {{helpme}} - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put {{helpme}}, and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~~~~ at the end; OR
Talk to us live, with this or this.

Best wishes, Chzz ► 21:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome and introduction[edit]

Hi, Burkeguy. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck! Chzz ► 21:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to read anything - anybody can edit; just go to an article and edit it. Be Bold, but please don't put silly stuff in - it will be removed very quickly, and will annoy people.

Ask for help. Talk to us live, or edit this page, put {{helpme}} and describe what help you need. Someone will reply very quickly - usually within a few minutes.

Play in your user area. For example, create User:Burkeguy/test.

Edit existing articles, before you make your own. Look at some subjects that you know about, and see if you can make them a bit better. For example, Wikipedia:Cleanup#2009.

When you're ready, read about Your first article. It should be about something well-known, and it will need references.

Good luck with editing; please drop me a line some time on my own talk page.

There's lots of information below. Once again, welcome to the fantastic world of Wikipedia!

-- Chzz ► 21:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Chzz ► 21:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 13:47, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kathryn Troutman Photo.JPG[edit]

Hi, to get this File:Kathryn Troutman Photo.JPG image to stick, there needs to be a free-er permission. This permission needs to grant everyone the right to use it and modify it. Such a license is the creative commons CC-BY-SA-3.0. You will have to get the copyright holder to agree on a release like this, and then send an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org to confirm. The email has to come from the domain of the organisation involved to prove permission was given. If you here that permission is forthcoming we can get that image back online. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Graeme may have missed a link in the above message.

If you get the copyright holder to email this text, with the picture attached and their name and the date filled in, to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, we can sort this out. Chzz ► 09:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Chzz ► 13:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've replied again, same place as above. Cheers, Chzz ► 14:00, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 13:32, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Burkeguy/Kathryn Troutman[edit]

Hello Burkeguy, User:Burkeguy/Kathryn Troutman look ready for article space. Congratulations on getting the picture in. The process is extra difficult when you have to send the email. you should be able to use that move tab to shift it to Kathryn Troutman . I was a bit worried on the notability side, but there do seem to be plenty of references in independent publications, so it should be safe from deletion. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied in User_talk:Chzz#Getting_close.3F. Chzz ► 17:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've now reviewed the article; please see the above link again. Chzz ► 19:43, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Troutman redux[edit]

Hello again.

I've had a quick look at the article, and I still see some problems. It really is hard to edit neutrally when you have a conflict of interest, that's why we so strongly discourage it. Forgive me for not checking everything in the article, but in my defence, I'm not being paid for this!

So - some examples of the problems that I would have in creating it;

1. Thanks to her first book, "The Federal Resume Guidebook" (1999), currently in its 4th edition[6], Troutman helped popularize the format and name for the new “Federal Resume”

Firstly, this sounds very opinionated, and secondly, the facts are not supported by the sources. You use a reference with 4 links. Two of the links make no mention of Troutman, and the other two do not say anything about the form being 'thanks to her book', or that she popularized the format and name - unless I am missing something?

2. "Troutman is a regular guest on www.washingtonpost.com’s Federal Diary Live On-Line and www.federalnewsradio.com, and has been a featured speaker" - the references do not show that she is a 'regular guest' or a 'featured speaker' - and both of those are rather peacock terms.

3. "Troutman has been described in the media as an expert " - I have not actually been through those many refs, but do they actually explicitly state anywhere that T. is a) an expert on the Federal Resume, b) on Knowledge Skills and Abilities statements, and c) on federal career consulting in general ?

4. Also, it still boldly asserts that she is an 'expert' in the infobox; this is not neutral.

5. Some statements remain unreferenced, for example, the last para, "Troutman is a member of..."

6. I have concerns that so many of the references are primary sources

For these reasons, I would not personally be happy making the article live at this stage.

Best, Chzz ► 19:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replying to your query about sources;

http://www.linkedin.com/companies/419049/The%20Resume%20Place,%20Inc

This is not an appropriate reliable source - who published it, when, etc? Was it, in fact, written by the organization itself, hence primary?

http://www.resume-place.com./

This is a primary source; it is Troutman's website. This site is used extensively for referencing, hence my concerns.

Chzz ► 16:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Chzz ► 23:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New messages in User talk:Chzz#When you're back, could you let me know about the Troutman article? Chzz ► 19:21, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please check Troutman article again[edit]

Replied in user talk:Chzz#Please check Troutman article again Chzz ► 14:01, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kathryn Troutman is now a live article. Chzz ► 02:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Kathryn Troutman[edit]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Kathryn Troutman, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kathryn Troutman. Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. AeonicOmega(Watcha say?) 06:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Chzz ► 17:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Links[edit]

Actually, I meant to include a link with my reply, an example - but it didn't display, because I made an error.

It was, Category:Unreviewed new articles created via the Article Wizard from May 2010. There are plenty of backlogs, but that category page is, perhaps, as good a place to start as any. Ask if you have any questions, of course. Cheers, Chzz ► 17:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]