User talk:Brian.butt

Welcome![edit]

Hello, Brian.butt, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Halocene, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's content policies and may not be retained. In short, the topic of an article must be notable and have already been the subject of publication by reliable and independent sources.

Please review Your first article for an overview of the article creation process. The Article Wizard is available to help you create an article, where it will be reviewed and considered for publication. For information on how to request a new article that can be created by someone else, see Requested articles. If you are stuck, come to the Teahouse, where experienced Wikipedians can help you through the processes.

New to Wikipedia? Please consider taking a look at our introductory tutorial or reviewing the contributing to Wikipedia page to learn the basics about editing. Below are a few other good pages about article creation.

Article development
Standard layout
Lead section
The perfect article
Task Center – need some ideas of what kind of things need doing? Go here.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, ask me on my talk page. You can also type {{help me}} on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! Jalen Folf (talk) 00:44, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A draft already exists at Draft:Halocene, where the contents of your attempts were merged. Please work on it there instead and submit through WP:AFC. Jalen Folf (talk) 00:45, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am working on getting more information from "reputable" sources. This is a band that does exist. Brian.butt (talk) 00:49, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is not in question, we are held to generally assume good faith, so if you can bring the sources to support what you write thats ok. Just work on the draft and if you feel it is ready submit it. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 01:28, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 2023[edit]

Ignore it, a mistake. All good 😊 Bar Harel (talk) 17:43, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, Thanks for being helpful. Brian.butt (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Halocene (February 8)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at The Masked Singer (Australian TV series). Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, you are welcome to add that information yourself. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

No independent notability from the event concerning Masked Singer Australia which is already covered in a section there.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Halocene and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:21, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a good idea to merge the information about a band into a show that is accused of stealing from them. I am working on getting sources that verify notability. Since this band is fully independent the notability rules are very hard to meet even though they have a large following online. Brian.butt (talk) 18:25, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Brian.butt! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:21, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Halocene (March 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CNMall41 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Halocene and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

CNMall41 (talk) 21:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello CNmall41,

The band has over 640k listens a months on spottily, multiple videos with over a million views on YouTube how do I prove that they are notable enough? Brian.butt (talk) 21:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Halocene (April 26)[edit]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Anarchyte was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Unfortunately, this band is not notable outside of their Masked Singer incident, and that is not enough to demonstrate WP:NBAND.

Anarchyte (talk) 09:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Halocene for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Halocene is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Halocene until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:51, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The current rules for notability are antiquated and do not take into account modern steaming platforms. There are other bands that have smaller followings that have pages that are not deleted. Look at Concrete Castles. Brian.butt (talk) 15:58, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You may take the discussion to deletion review if you believe my close was incorrect, but you may not undo the redirect when you were the sole participant to support retaining the article. cc @Onel5969 Star Mississippi 03:09, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't the sole participant to Support retaining the article. There had also been changes made to the article that proved notability they were ignored in your deletion. Brian.butt (talk) 21:45, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not "my" deletion. In addition to the AfD, four editors declined your creation at AfC. As you were advised at my Talk, continue to improve it, don't rush to submit it. Star Mississippi 02:33, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Halocene (May 11)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:

No improvement since last time it was declined. Please do not re-submit without making improvements.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Halocene and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:31, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Halocene (May 11)[edit]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by CNMall41 was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Rejected numerous times, moved to main space anyway and then deleted pursuant to a discussion. Resubmitted again after decline without improvements. Wikipedia is not a WP:PACT and we do not need to keep entertaining WP:TE.

CNMall41 (talk) 23:30, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There were changes made. Brian.butt (talk) 02:01, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May 2023[edit]

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Acroterion (talk) 22:36, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

this kind of accusation [1] is out of line. ANything else like this will bring a block. Acroterion (talk) 22:38, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Like what? Brian.butt (talk) 23:07, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Accusations that other editors are somehow being paid off to oppose you. Acroterion (talk) 23:15, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]