User talk:Arjayay/Archive 31
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Unwarranted reversions
Before reverting changes made you need to check the accuracy of the changes made. Changes are made for a reason. Simply reverting changes without making any attempt to check the accuracy of changes made is not only pointless but entirely contrary to the whole purpose of editing. The changes made to Doughty Street were accurate. Minthammer (talk) 12:13, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Would you like to respond? Minthammer (talk) 15:53, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- You have repeatedly been warned that, as an editor with an apparent conflict of interest, you should not be editing that page in any case. - Arjayay (talk) 15:32, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- That simply ignores the point I have made, presumably because you do not wish to admit you are wrong. You assume a conflict of interest without any justification. Minthammer (talk) 07:49, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- You have repeatedly been warned that, as an editor with an apparent conflict of interest, you should not be editing that page in any case. - Arjayay (talk) 15:32, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
Simran
Hello excuse me....
If you don't know the DOB you need not to place the DOB in the infobox or provide a proper source there.. why you providing the DOB without source..just remove it...can you explain the logic???
Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Simran (actress), you may be blocked from editing. -
Making your edits highlighted doesn't mean my edits being blocked??? I haven't done such a a kind of mistake...you are making a start of vandalism by providing the previous edits undone and making points (DOB) there without unclear or proper sources there..
you may be blocked from editing. - Jyomon (talk) 11:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Jyomon please stop issuing false warnings. As referenced in the article "Simran was born as Rishibala Naval on 4 April 1976"[1] you are the one ignoring the referenced date and adding a totally unsourced date of birth. - Arjayay (talk) 11:58, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Was it a reliable source.i have doubt regarding the source... Jyomon (talk) 12:01, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Jyomon - what source were you using for 4 April 1975? - Arjayay (talk) 12:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Actually I was not the one who provided DOB year as 1975.consider that first...you undid the previous edits ...that's why I reverted your edits... Jyomon (talk) 12:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Jyomon You reverted this edit of mine which had an edit summary clearly stating "Rv unsourced change to sourced DoB" - so, I reverted from an unsourced DoB back to a sourced DoB, and you reverted it back to the unsourced DoB. This is in direct contravention of WP:BURDEN "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material" (Bold as per the guideline) - You have still not explained why you reverted to an unsourced DoB - Arjayay (talk) 12:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Actually I was not the one who provided DOB year as 1975.consider that first...you undid the previous edits ...that's why I reverted your edits... Jyomon (talk) 12:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Jyomon - what source were you using for 4 April 1975? - Arjayay (talk) 12:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Was it a reliable source.i have doubt regarding the source... Jyomon (talk) 12:01, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your help!
Thank you for the edit on Memphis Flyer. I appreciate the heads up about not linking user pages for the credit on using images from Wikimedia Commons. I'm new, and I'm grateful for the help. OIM20 (talk) 22:42, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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In response to our previous discussion on "India as a potential superpower"
Thanks for your message! However, I disagree with you. I can understand that my statement on India being the world's largest country by population differs from the cited reference (which is out-of-date, in my opinion). Thus, I am happy to find a new reputable and updated sources so that the cited reference agrees with the statement. Here are some that I found that are recent and easy to find on the internet (rather than having to go through webarchive)
2: https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1135967
4: https://www.unfpa.org/data/world-population-dashboard Please feel free to provide a constructive explanation on why we can't provide a more updated/alternative cited reference.
World population counters rely on projections by the UN, as it takes many years for official censuses to be published. I know that is unfortunate in that it is hard to "predict what actually happened", but the majority of the world has accepted that we will have to deal with the uncertainty of not knowing "what actually happened". This is why major news organizations have accepted the projection of India being the largest country by April 2023 as reality. Wikipedia thus must be in-line with other online sources and common knowledge interpretations on worldwide populations.
Searching up 'India Population' on Bing or Google leads to the statement "India, officially the Republic of India, is a country in South Asia. It is the seventh-largest country by area, the most populous country in the world, and the most populous democracy." and "India, officially the Republic of India, is a country in South Asia. It is the seventh-largest country by area, the most populous country in the world, and the most populous democracy".
Article on BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-65320690
another article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/65389883
It's already prominent on other Wikipedia articles too, which makes this article inconsistent with other articles on Wikipedia
My point is that there are newer sources by the UN that don't simply say that "India is projected to be larger than China 2023", they now say "India became larger than China in April 2023". Thus, I suggest we change the source. Thebrowntruth (talk) 12:43, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Thebrowntruth This needs to be discussed at Talk:India as a potential superpower, not here. My only contribution was to point out that "the 2022 UN report tells us what was expected to happen in 2023 - it can't tell us what actually happened" - Arjayay (talk) 13:03, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, but I am just saying that if you do not have any valid arguments/pushbacks against my points I will move forward to replace/update the source and update the article as necessary. Thebrowntruth (talk) 13:15, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thebrowntruth - to repeat myself, this needs to be discussed at Talk:India as a potential superpower, not here. - Arjayay (talk) 14:07, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, but I am just saying that if you do not have any valid arguments/pushbacks against my points I will move forward to replace/update the source and update the article as necessary. Thebrowntruth (talk) 13:15, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| For all the wikignomish work you do - I see your username pop up in my watchlist all the time. — Prodraxis {talk • contribs} (she/her) 23:28, 27 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Upadhyay
Hello, I've added references and sources. If I need to add more please do let me know. I would work to add all verifiable information on this subject. I will keep on editing until it is perfectly according to Wiki standards. Aum Upadhyay (talk) 14:49, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Battersea Town Hall
Hi Arjayay. If you have a duplicate word detector, please run it on Battersea Town Hall ... I'm sure I spotted a dupe there a few weeks back, but did nothing; and now just cannot face reading the text again. thx. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Tagishsimon - contrary to appearances, I don't have a duplicate word detector. However, having pasted the text into Word, it didn't show any duplicate words, so I'd sleep easy ! - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 13:31, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking, Arjayay; much appreciated. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:50, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Appreciation Hi Arjayay, Thank you for fixing I would love to learn more about this--RebeccaRwanda (talk) 22:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi RebeccaRwanda, I assume you are referring to my edit at Jeannette Bayisenge, which was not done using the above method, I was simply clearing all the uses of "of of" (apart from the three with [sic] after them) - I regularly clear most of the list of duplicate words.
With regard to my post above, although Wikipedia has a basic spellcheck, it does not find duplicate words or other grammar problems. By copying text from an article (not from the edit page, as the Wiki mark-up causes confusion) into Word it finds duplicate words, underlining them in red. You will then have to edit the Wikipage manually to correct the error.
Before using Word for spelling and grammar, you must be careful to ensure that your version of Word is set to the same version of English used in that article, since spellings and grammar vary from one variety of English to another, especially between UK/Commonwealth English and US English. My version of Word has 18 English language options, from English (Australia) to English (Zimbabwe), but no English (Rwanda), so for Rwandan articles you would have to choose between English (South Africa) and English (Zimbabwe). Again, if you find a spelling or grammar error, you need to edit the Wikipage manually. Hope that helps - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC) - Thank you - Arjayay (talk) This is helpful RebeccaRwanda (talk) 15:02, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
another another duplicate-word barnstar
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| I see it's been said before — a full decade ago — but "Thank Thank you you for for removing removing all all those those double double words words." PRRfan (talk) 20:54, 4 August 2023 (UTC) |
Mark McGann
Hi Arjayay, thanks for the message regarding the update of my listed Wiki page. Whilst I can vouch for the validity of all facts added yesterday I of course understand the necessity for references to add the requisite authority. Could you you therefore point me in the direction of the specific references required for my updated edit or is it merely a case that every job/role listing and fact included requires a reference added in the reference list and a corresponding intent reference? This would mean a lot of references as you can see and so I wasn't sure what was necessary and what not.
I appreciate your guidance, patience and support in this.
Thank you.
Mark McGann (Mike Hagen) Mike Hagen (talk) 11:17, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Mike Hagen, thank you for your post.
The first thing is that, if you are Mark McGann, you have a clear WP:Conflict of interest, so should not be editing Wikipedia's page about you. Please note it is not your page, the contents of it are determined by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, not by what you would like it to say.
Please read and follow WP:Conflict of interest, which is perhaps best explained in Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide.
In short, you should make suggestions for changes and additions at Talk:Mark McGann using the Template:Edit COI template and format, which will add your request to a centralised list of COI edit requests.
For almost everything, you need to cite a reference to a reliable, independent source, published by a body with a reputation for fact-checking - No blogs, no self-published sources, no bodies with a conflict of interest and not what you "know". These sources are to allow any information added to, or changed in our pages, to be verified as true now and in the future.
Personally, I suggest you do not propose large or multiple changes all at the same time, as we are all volunteers here, and large, complex changes are unlikely to be actioned quickly. I would work incrementally, changing the most important things first. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 11:51, 10 August 2023 (UTC)- Thanks Arjayay. Noted and understood. I'll think about a more incremental improvement via a suitable third party.
- Very best,
- Mark Mike Hagen (talk) 15:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Mike Hagen please don't try and get a third party to make these edits on your behalf, as they would also have a Conflict of interest. As WP:Conflict of interest states:-
- "Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships. Any external relationship can trigger a conflict of interest."
- Please propose your changes at Talk:Mark McGann using the Template:Edit COI template and format, as explained above. - Arjayay (talk) 15:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Mike Hagen please don't try and get a third party to make these edits on your behalf, as they would also have a Conflict of interest. As WP:Conflict of interest states:-
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Rm ref citing nowrunning.com
Some of your old edits say this. Remember that Nowrunning.com is used to host Indo-Asian News Service, which is reliable. DareshMohan (talk) 23:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi DareshMohan - nowrunning.com is clearly listed at WP:ICTFSOURCES as not being reliable, with no exceptions for Indo-Asian News Service.
I can find no discussion as to the reliability or lack of, for Indo-Asian News Service, it has only been mentioned in passing three times at the WP:Reliable sources noticeboard.
I suggest you start a discussion at WP:ICTF - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
Duplicate page creation by user creating confusion
A user has created a duplicate page for Digital Personal Data Protection Act, 2023's draft making it a duplication. Requesting your review towards it for further action.
Original article - Digital Personal Data Protection Act, 2023
Dupicate article - The Digital Personal Data Protection Bill, 2022 Thewikizoomer (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Thewikizoomer - you've done the right thing by tagging it - another option is to turn it into a redirect. I'm not an admin, so I can't take any direct action - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 19:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Can you help me do that as the author is stating that a Draft should be made available. But it is against the policy and also creates confusion. Thewikizoomer (talk) 06:56, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
Palo verde, Parkinsonia
You told me that my correction of the mistaken translation of Palo verde as green stick was considered to be vandalism. As a graduate horticulturist, ISA Certified Arborist, and long-time Spanish speaker, I'm familiar with the way that native speakers use the word palo, it is clear that the word translates as tree and not stick. The city, Palo Alto, derives its name from the tall coast redwood trees that grow there, not because of a tall stick, but because of the tall trees. If you ask ¿Cual es el nombre de este palo?, you don't mean What is the name of this stick? You are asking What is the name of this tree? If you said Hay muchos palos en este solar, it would be ridiculous to translate that as There are a lot of sticks on this parcel, when it's obvious there are a lot of trees there. My correcting the incorrect translation is not vandalism at all. But when Wikipedia mis-informs the public that palo translates as stick--that is vandalism of the Spanish language. pechaney (talk) 21:37, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- pechaney - I warned you, twice, for signing in article space. However, there is only one specific warning for signing in article space, not a series of escalating warnings, so I used a vandal 2 warning. I should have explained that the signature was the reason for the second warning, not the unsourced change in translation, but failed to do so, for which I apologize. - Arjayay (talk) 14:24, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
Help!
Hey! Arjayay, Could you please help me on this article draft Draft:Dargah Ustad E Zaman Trust. Wikischolarrr (talk) 14:00, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry Wikischolarrr, I have no knowledge of, or interest in, Draft:Dargah Ustad E Zaman Trust, which has already been refused four times for lack of any in-depth coverage.
If you can't find significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, as per WP:SIGCOV, you are wasting your time trying to get the article approved.
Although only an essay, I think this is clearly explained in Wikipedia:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 14:35, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
A cookie for you!
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Thanks for quickly reverting the vandalism on my talk page earlier! :) A smart kitten (talk) 16:00, 21 August 2023 (UTC) |
Self-trout - Thanks for catching that. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 16:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
Scottish diaspora
The material you added is probably not wrong, so I've not reflexively removed it, but it's not helpful to add material like this without source citations. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 17:51, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- SMcCandlish - I removed a duplicate "and", nothing else - I suggest you look at the page history - Arjayay (talk) 18:37, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Derp! I must've clicked on the wrong user ID, sorry. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 18:48, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion contested: Characters of the The King of Fighters series
Hello Arjayay. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Characters of the The King of Fighters series, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Does not redirect to a different or incorrect namespace. Thank you. BangJan1999 17:13, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Amitabh Bachchan - what city name to use
Started Talk:Amitabh_Bachchan#Names_of_places for comments on this. Ravensfire (talk) 17:57, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification Ravensfire - I have responded at Talk:Amitabh Bachchan#Names of places - Arjayay (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Regarding your comment - Links to draft articles
Thank you for the note below:
Please do not introduce links in actual articles to draft articles, as you did to American Poetry Center and American INSIGHT. Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the Manual of Style. These links have been removed. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 10:04, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
This certainly clarifies an interesting point.
I very much appreciate your long experience and wisdom in Wikipedia editing and policy. Wikipedia is turning out to be truly a global civilizational tool for advancing knowledge. Individuals such as you are making this all possible with your long dedication and attention.
The particular situation with this page is very puzzling to me.
I noticed the original page of particular individual https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Chew_Barringer was a normal page for a good number of years, and then suddenly, it became redirected to an organization she founded. Clearly the person and the organization are not the same entity.
The circular referencing makes it impossible for anyone to edit the page. I resurrected the original page, created by other editors many years before I was aware of that page. The Draft I created was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Margaret_Chew_Barringer, and then made public by moving it to Wikipedia Main. Space.
So, I need your help and wisdom in making the Original page visible, as otherwise no one else can contribute to improving that page.
Perhaps with you skills and seniority, you can turn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Margaret_Chew_Barringer into a stub page, that then allows and encourages other individuals to contribute to that page.
Regarding the individual, she's a direct descendent of Benjamin Chew, chief justice of the Supreme Court of the Province of Pennsylvania and later the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Clearly a pivotal person in both English and American history during the transition of USA from a colony to an independent country. Their family ancestral home Cliveden (Benjamin Chew House) was turned over by her family to the the National Trust for Historical Preservation and her mother Anne Sophia Penn Chew Barringer, donated all the Chew Family papers to the Historical Society of Pennsylvania (over 800 boxes of material see [1].
Being that the Chew family and their descendants follow the Quaker practices, they do not call out attention to themselves, and hence, are not as 'visible' as other individuals.
I believe it is important to figure out a way of allowing many others to be allowed the opportunity to edit the the Margaret_Chew_Barringer page directly. Hopefully with your expertise and wisdom you can suggest, or better yet, create a path for doing so.
Again, thank you for your amazing number of edits and contributions to making Wikipedia an incredible resource.Emoritz2017 (talk) 21:31, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Emoritz2017. Thank you for your post. The article Margaret Chew Barringer was redirected on 21 November 2020 as it was totally unsourced.
Draft:Margaret Chew Barringer has some sources, but not really any significant coverage - (e.g. whole articles, not just passing mentions) in reliable sources (e.g. National/international magazines or newspapers or by reputable publishers) that are totally independent of the subject. To prove "notability" sources need to meet all three criteria at the same time. Once notability is established, minor mentions can be used to fill in the details, but these still need to be reliable and independent. - To (hyper)critically examine the references of the draft against those criteria:- the first reference is to a genealogy chart (of unknown provenance) which "proves" nothing in terms of notability, the second is to the Chew Family Papers - not an "independent source", the third is just to a "front page" (not an article about the subject) although there may be something important if you can link to it, and the fourth is an interview, which again is not "independent of the subject". We are not interested in what the subject of an article has to say about themselves, we are only interested in what people, totally unconnected with the subject, and not fed press releases etc. have to say about them.
- Finally, being "a direct descendent of Benjamin Chew" is not relevant, as Notability is not inherited.
- You say "I believe it is important to figure out a way of allowing many others to be allowed the opportunity to edit the the Margaret Chew Barringer page directly" Nothing is stopping any editor, or IP, editing Draft:Margaret Chew Barringer, but they need Reliable sources to back up their additions. - Arjayay (talk) 20:09, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you User:Arjayay for your detailed response. It is the clearest discussion of I have seen to date regarding criteria, and the logic makes sense. I am still puzzled how anyone who doesn't already know about a draft page can get a chance to get interested in to improve it. What would enable it to be treated as a stub that others could improve? Emoritz2017 (talk) 20:47, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Emoritz2017 thanks for your reply. People often misunderstand stubs. As per Wikipedia:Stub "A stub is an article deemed too short and incomplete to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject." As an article it needs to meet the article criteria of notability, as proven by extensive coverage in reliable, independent sources, which is where we came in.
I accept that it is difficult to "attract" editors to edit a draft, especially as a search for the title redirects to American INSIGHT (If there was no redirect, a search for "Margaret Chew Barringer" would inform the reader that there is a draft Draft:Margaret Chew Barringer). Some Wikiprojects have pages where requests for assistance can be made, or potential articles added to lists, you could try the first three projects at Talk:American INSIGHT (IMHO The United States project is too all-encompassing). Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:24, 1 September 2023 (UTC)- |Hi, Arjayay - Thank you for the additional insights and suggestions. Much appreciated. Emoritz2017 (talk) 02:04, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Emoritz2017 thanks for your reply. People often misunderstand stubs. As per Wikipedia:Stub "A stub is an article deemed too short and incomplete to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject." As an article it needs to meet the article criteria of notability, as proven by extensive coverage in reliable, independent sources, which is where we came in.
- Thank you User:Arjayay for your detailed response. It is the clearest discussion of I have seen to date regarding criteria, and the logic makes sense. I am still puzzled how anyone who doesn't already know about a draft page can get a chance to get interested in to improve it. What would enable it to be treated as a stub that others could improve? Emoritz2017 (talk) 20:47, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Recent pagemove of Characters of The King of Fighters series
Hi - just came across the redirect Characters of the The King of Fighters series (double 'the'), which I notice you created as a result of a pagemove to delete one of the two instances of the word 'the'. However, it seems that the series itself is titled The King of Fighters, not simply King of Fighters - as far as I can tell, when talking about the series, you would reference "the The King of Fighters series" (regardless of how strange it looks), not simply "The King of Fighters series" (unless I have misunderstood somewhere, which is entirely possible). If I am correct, it would seem the pagemove should be reverted and a redirect left behind so that using only one 'the' still goes to the correct page. If I have misinterpreted or am incorrect in my understanding of the relevant grammar please do let me know. Tollens (talk) 03:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Tollens, thanks for your post. I'm sure you are wrong, but having carried out a brief search I can't find an on-line grammar article to explain and confirm it, they all seem to deal with basic forms, such as the difference between the definite and indefinite articles, or deal with more complex forms such as Double Comparatives using 'The'...'the'.
Huge numbers of proper nouns begin with "The" - The United States, The Times, The Beatles, The New York Jets, The Louvre etc. People don't say "the The United States" or "the The Beatles" (although there is the perversely named British band The The.
As a test, I would simply say, "read it aloud" and it sounds awkward. If a double "the" was correct, we should expect "millions", of uses on Wikipedia, which simply isn't the case.
Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)- Of course I agree it looks and sounds strange - it's just that there is technically no article in "Characters of The King of Fighters series" when syntactically it seems there should be one. Perhaps it would be possible to completely restructure that title so that there is no ambiguity? Tollens (talk) 15:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Tollens Article titles do not have to be, indeed generally are not, complete sentences. If you think the title should be restructured, what would you propose? - Arjayay (talk) 15:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- I understand that it doesn't need to be a sentence, but it shouldn't contain grammatical errors. I can't think of any way that keeps the word "series" right after "The King of Fighters", but something like "List of The King of Fighters characters" would both sound correct and be syntactically correct. Tollens (talk) 15:44, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Tollens Article titles do not have to be, indeed generally are not, complete sentences. If you think the title should be restructured, what would you propose? - Arjayay (talk) 15:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Of course I agree it looks and sounds strange - it's just that there is technically no article in "Characters of The King of Fighters series" when syntactically it seems there should be one. Perhaps it would be possible to completely restructure that title so that there is no ambiguity? Tollens (talk) 15:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello there! I see you've been quite active in some things related to the above mentioned pages. I'm pinging you @Arjayay: directly to ask for some help. I've started 3 initiatives for these pages. If you could spare some time in the near future, could you please take a look at the proposal and voice your opinion? Of course, if you have interest, time, and energy to participate that would be amazing!
Here are the projects:
1. Talk:Philosophical_pessimism#A proposal for an overhaul of the article — this initiative is already in progress. The idea is to raise the quality of the page by switching it from a mere historical account to a more encyclopedic format.
2. Talk:Philosophical_pessimism#A proposal to split the History into a dedicated page — related to the one above. The historical account is overly detailed. It would be much better to have a dedicated page for the history of philosophical pessimism and leave only a brief history in the main page.
3. Talk:Antinatalism#A proposal to create a dedicated page for Benatar's axiological asymmetry — here, the idea is to extract the axiological asymmetry argument into a dedicated page. This way, a more detailed presentation could be given. In addition, we could expand on the various responses others philosophers made and counters from Benatar. Other pages could have a brief description and link to the details page.
I hope at least some of this will spark your interest!
- User:Fantastiera
Firstly. please sign your posts on talk pages, using 4 tildes or the signature icon
Secondly, please do not issue mass requests - you appear to be canvassing everybody who has ever edited these pages - I edited the first article once, last year, to remove a duplicate "to", but have never edited the second article
Finally, no I am not interested - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 14:23, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Name change
Hi.. I want to change my user ID, how could I do that? BrightsForever (talk) 02:21, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi BrightsForever, please see Wikipedia:Changing username. Best wishes Arjayay (talk) 05:22, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I had a look on this but not sure from where to start BrightsForever (talk) 13:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi BrightsForever - Try re-reading the first two lines of that page.
Please also note that any renaming will reallocate all your earlier edits to your new name. So, if you are trying to disassociate yourself from any earlier edits, you will have to abandon your current account and create a new one. Please do NOT use both accounts, or you could be accused of sockpuppetry. - Arjayay (talk) 14:48, 8 September 2023 (UTC)- Thanks. Got it. Just renaming it as it's very common name. BrightsForever (talk) 16:54, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi BrightsForever - Try re-reading the first two lines of that page.
- Thanks, I had a look on this but not sure from where to start BrightsForever (talk) 13:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Hindenburg disaster.
Hello. I added the "86 years ago" at the beginning of the article. You removed it because, as you said, it will become outdated. Can't it not just be adjusted each year? Other articles have wording like that for how long it's been since some sort of event occurred. I was simply trying to add some content. If possible, please respond to this today? Thanks. SummeRStorM79 (talk) 19:01, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- SummeRStorM79 although such dates "can" be manually adjusted each year, experience shows that they are not, which is why we avoid them. If you really think this really adds value to the article (which, personally, I don't) please use Template:Start date and age which will update semi-automatically - thanks - Arjayay (talk) 19:56, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
Housefull 5
As you left the note on Housefull 5 mentioning that Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources, but I provided reliable sources mentioning the announcement of movie, and the shooting of movie. Even they also posted on their social handle (Not reliable sources but still). iVickyChoudhary (talk) 13:14, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- No iVickyChoudhary - my edit summary was
"Rv to redirect as WP:NFF "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles" Shooting is due to start in December 2023"
It has, therefore, not "commenced principal photography" - as that is "due" in December 2023 - although such dates often slip.
Please do not recreate that article until principal photography has been confirmed to have commenced. Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 14:04, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Corrections made to my wiki page
Hello, I hope this message finds you well. My name is Todd Newton and I am writing to you regarding some recent updates to my page that were made by my employee Facts2021 and authorized by me. Recently, we noticed those, and previous, updates were reversed by you. I have great respect for your experience and skillset with Wikipedia and only wish my page to be as current and accurate as possible. Please forgive us if some of the formatting was done incorrectly, but as the page stands now everything is up to date and as I wish it to appear. It is very important that all titles, etc., are correct so I kindly request that no further changes be made so as not to cause confusion to those gathering data from my page. Also, please note that all photos are personally owned by me so occasionally I will instruct for them to be rearranged on the page. Again, I greatly appreciate all you do to keep Wikipedia as a valued source of information. Facts2021 (talk) 15:37, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Facts2021 Firstly that is not your page, it is Wikipedia's page about you, and will include/exclude whatever complies/does not comply with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines
Secondly, we have no interest whatsoever in how you want our page to appear
Thirdly you have a clear conflict of interest, so should not be editing that page at all, nor instructing anyone employed by you, or associated with you, to edit the page. - Arjayay (talk) 15:55, 16 September 2023 (UTC)- Then, may I ask, who determines what goes on the page? Is it you? When you say "we" are you an administer of the website? If so, then I'm not quite understanding why those who run the site and seek contributions would not want the most accurate information provided to them. Who better than the subject of the page to offer such content? Facts2021 (talk) 18:28, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Emmet Cohen page edit
Hi Arjayay, thanks for all the time you take as a reviewer of wiki articles! On a recent edit to [Emmet Cohen] you added "[sic]" to a quote, and after spending some time studying the quote myself I am at a loss as to where the mis-statement or error might be within the original quote that you may have found. Can you please help point it out? Tmcnellis15 (talk) 19:43, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Tmcnellis15 - Thanks for your post. "Hone in on" is a common mis-spelling/mis-phrasing of "home in on". As such it appears in Wikipedia:Lists_of_common_misspellings/Grammar_and_miscellaneous#H which is what I was clearing at the time. It is "proscribed" in Wiktionary and is discussed in numerous writing guides such as prowritingaid here and Grammarist here.
That said, having now looked at some other grammar guides, some find it acceptable. So, If you feel strongly about it, please remove the [sic] and I'll avoid correcting that entry in Wikipedia:Lists_of_common_misspellings/Grammar_and_miscellaneous#H next time round (in about 10 years time at the rate I'm going) - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 20:01, 18 September 2023 (UTC) - Thanks, I learned something today! Let's leave it (although I do find the phrase in Merriam Webster, but hey, these dictionaries have let all sorts of slang creep in! Tmcnellis15 (talk) 22:31, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Caste POV pusher
Looks like this guy [2] wouldn't listen. Please have a look at it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Fylindfotberserk, seems like that particular problem was dealt with before I could get round to looking at it.
Whilst I agree with your efforts, I think that trying to remove caste and ethnicity is going to be a major uphill battle, as so many people want to promote their own caste/ethnicity by association with notable people. Mind you, I thought the same about WP:NOINDICSCRIPT, which, after about 10 years, we are slowly winning ! - Good luck - Arjayay (talk) 13:24, 21 September 2023 (UTC)- Agreed. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:38, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Chandigarh
Hey Arjayay, I was curious about this edit in which the graph for Hindi was changed to 67.76%, I took a look at the Excel file you cited, and I divided the total number of Hindi speakers by the 2011 population census figure and got 73.6%. The body also gives a different figure than the graph. Thanks. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:31, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Southasianhistorian8 - you could well be right. My edit was to revert a "Panjabi" pusher who was pasting blatantly false figures - according to the IP, Hindi was only 10% - which was clearly false. I did not check the previous figures, just reverted the patently false figures. - Arjayay (talk) 21:41, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- My bad. I should have posted this on Cartophilic's page, as I believe he was the one to add the 67.76% figure. My apologies. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- No worries Southasianhistorian8 - happy editing - Arjayay (talk) 21:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- My bad. I should have posted this on Cartophilic's page, as I believe he was the one to add the 67.76% figure. My apologies. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Appreciate you
Thanks for flitting by so many articles and improving them with a gentle touch. jengod (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks jengod, I'm not sure what prompted your post. I hope my "flitting by" doesn't lead to the butterfly effect - although, perhaps, Wikipedia is an example of Chaos theory in any case?? - Thanks again - Arjayay (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- You fixed a wonky word in Tropico, California and I've started many a Wikipedia day seeing that you've fixed a double word on something on my watchlist. It's just nice and it makes the world go round. Anyway, carry on. jengod (talk) 18:37, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Please stop reverting my edit on Kickin' It
I have asked you a few times to leave the page alone. The company was actually involved in the series and a revert is not necessary. 2001:8003:1D9D:3B00:5C16:6046:3D54:E419 (talk) 11:50, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
and as a result of the above post, I have reverted the IP edit to the last version by Arjayay. -- Toddy1 (talk) 12:37, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
On Eno
Hello there.
Thank you for your edit in regards to Brian Eno. It is greatly appreciated. I was a bit out of circulation with my head, given I was a bit tipsy whilst editing. I appreciate you going ahead and editing so that mistakes can be inverted and further developments could surface as a result of the edit and others like it. Once again, Thank you.
From, Frippinator (talk) 17:14, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- No worries Frippinator, better tipsy editing than tipsy driving, tipsy editing can always be undone - I'm off to see Robert and Toyah later this month - Arjayay (talk) 17:54, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Lucky! Currently in Toronto, I just saw Swans and Peter Gabriel within a period of a week. Fantastic all around for both experiences, and would recommend Peter Gabriel in consideration to past and current material. Panopticon is phenomenal.
- From, Frippinator (talk) 03:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
Escalated warnings
Hi, thanks for reverting the questionable edits on Mian Dido Jamwal, but I've reverted one of your escalated warnings at User talk:Khas2 as the user has actually made no further promotional-looking edits since your first warning. They may have got the message. Belbury (talk) 10:14, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Regarding the gouri nair draft
Dear Ajayay,
I have submitted for already rejected page as the details submitted by me is correct but you have mentioned it's constructive...could you please help me to do that better and make it published.
Bharathsnvs (talk) 02:10, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry Bharathsnvs, Draft:Gouri Nair is nowhere near the standard we need for an article. It does not show that Gouri Nair is "notable" in Wikipedia's meaning of the word.
It has one reference, to a promotional site, which only references Gouri Nair in passing, whilst the film she appeared in also appears to be non-notable.
You need to find three reliable, independent sources published by a body with a reputation for fact-checking - that give extensive coverage to her, not just mentions in passing, like the reference you are using. - Arjayay (talk) 13:12, 21 September 2023 (UTC)- Dear Arjayay
- Thank you for giving the valuable information. I have updated the draft after due discussion with the different members using the help channel of wikipedia. could you please look into the Draft:Gouri Nair and give me the some suggestions. if everything fine please help me make it publish. Bharathsnvs (talk) 21:01, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Bharathsnvs, please re-read my comments above. My Malayalam is almost non-existent, but your first reference is largely about her, (although I do not know if it is a reliable, independent source published by a body with a reputation for fact-checking). Reference 2 is just a movie listing. References 3, 4 and 5 are about movies where she is mentioned in passing, not about her. Reference 6 is an interview with her, so is not a reliable, independent source published by a body with a reputation for fact-checking. You, therefore, have just one reference that might support her notability. You need to find more independent, reliable, references that give extensive coverage to her, not just mentions in passing. - Arjayay (talk) 09:55, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Grangemouth
Sorry about reinstating the non-notable person -- I'd meant to do the opposite, but we were editing at the same moment, and somehow I reversed your attempt to do the same thing. Bibliosporias (talk) 09:24, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- No worries Bibliosporias edit conflicts are a pain. I once got into a "round-robin" of about 8 edits where we were both reverting reversions of reversions - we were both trying to achieve the same result, but got lost in the mess! Happy editing - Arjayay (talk) 16:29, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Mancherial
Geography and airport information details related to Mancherial should be included in Wikipedia Pra3155 (talk) 10:41, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Pra3155 The reason your edits were deleted is because they were unsourced. This was clearly explained in my edit summaries "Rv unsourced additions" and "Unsourced - again" and also explained in the unsourced warnings that I issued on your talk page. You have now received 2 final warnings for unsourced additions, so are likely to be blocked if you make any more - Arjayay (talk) 11:18, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- At least I want it to be done by you Pra3155 (talk) 10:21, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- No Pra3155 It is NOT up to me, or another editor, to find or add references for you.
The WP:BURDEN is on whoever adds or changes information to provide a reference from a reliable source that supports those additions or changes. - Arjayay (talk) 10:48, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- No Pra3155 It is NOT up to me, or another editor, to find or add references for you.
- At least I want it to be done by you Pra3155 (talk) 10:21, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Your Edit on Dhund
Thanks for the spelling correction. I noted the mistake soon after I had edited, but I thought I should wait a couple of days to see, if someone notices it or not. I am happy you noted it so soon. Are you aware of any more films with similar names. I found that exercise very interesting! Anil1956 (talk) 05:28, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Ballybunion
FYI. While I recognise it was one in a series of rushed edits to counter this nonsense, in this edit you inadvertently restored some potentially invalid material (connecting the subject to County Kerry), removed a reference I'd added (more correctly associating the subject with County Louth) and restored much of the bizarre grammar (that I'd attempted to address in intervening edits). While I'd already removed some of the related nonsense from that article, I may have overlooked the "people of" category, which is likely why that article fell back onto your "radar". But perhaps take a quick minute to check that anti-VN reverts don't inadvertently include other (non-VN) changes. (I could very easily not have added that article to my watchlist...) Guliolopez (talk) 10:33, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry Guliolopez I missed that I was reverting to invalid material - you were right about the Ballybunion vandal though - Arjayay (talk) 13:13, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. And no problem. I'll also chip-in and see if I can help with that nonsense - where/when I see it. Guliolopez (talk) 15:38, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Jutos
Hi, sorry to bother you, but I am not very familiar with noticeboards and I noticed that you left a warning on the talk page of the editor Jutos222 in the past. This user has recently been adding the words "talented" to the lede of many biographies about mostly Nigerian people, in apparent violation of Wikipedia's NPOV policy, and I have been reverting them. Just an hour ago, they vandalized my user page twice. They have showed no interest in ceasing their vandalism in spite of multiple warnings in the past. If you could point me in the right direction to deal with this, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 21:08, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
They also just blanked all of the warnings from their talk page AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 23:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi AllTheUsernamesAreInUse, thanks for the posts which arrived after I had left for the day. I am not an admin, so can do no more than you. Given the articles the user has edited, I assume English is not their first language and the problem appears to be lack of communication. You reverted 7 of their edits on 13 October, but did not explain why in any edit summary, nor did you give a explanatory warning on their talk page. The user logs back in, sees that 7 of their edits were reverted, but does not know why. Their knee-jerk reaction is to vandalise your user page, which is unacceptable, and which you understandably revert, but again do not issue a warning.
As for deleting the warnings from their user page, this is allowed as per WP:BLANKING, although archiving is preferred. However, blanking is taken to mean that the user has read and understands the warnings, which remain in the page history.
I have given 2 warnings about vandalizing your talkpage, although, as the last warning was in April 2021, I have started back at level 1. I will also be watching their future edits. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:24, 17 October 2023 (UTC)- (talk page stalker) I'll keep an eye on Jutos222 as well, to see what happens next. They have added "Talented" (always with a capital T) to a lot or articles, in fact doing that seems to be their main interest on Wikipedia. Bishonen | tålk 12:03, 18 October 2023 (UTC).
- Thanks Bishonen - they are a very sporadic editor, but the "Talented" additions go back to January 2021 - Arjayay (talk) 12:42, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Frankly, if/when they start up again, I'm pretty likely to miss it. Feel free to let me know if you should see any more "Talented" or similar, and I'll certainly consider a block. You too, AllTheUsernamesAreInUse. Bishonen | tålk 00:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC).
- Update: Jutos has responded to your warning with a question, AllTheUsernamesAreInUse. I don't know if you guys can understand what they're saying? Because I can't. Possibly something like "Do you mean I'm not supposed to add "Talented" to Nigerian biographies?" Just guessing. Bishonen | tålk 14:53, 19 October 2023 (UTC).
- Thanks Bishonen - they are a very sporadic editor, but the "Talented" additions go back to January 2021 - Arjayay (talk) 12:42, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I'll keep an eye on Jutos222 as well, to see what happens next. They have added "Talented" (always with a capital T) to a lot or articles, in fact doing that seems to be their main interest on Wikipedia. Bishonen | tålk 12:03, 18 October 2023 (UTC).
Have a look
Hi, have a look at this. You've reverted their edit before, hence notified. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Fylindfotberserk - I see someone else has already dealt with it - I've been abroad for a week - Arjayay (talk) 14:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oh..OK. Thanks and welcome
. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:44, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oh..OK. Thanks and welcome
hi Arjayay I would like to explain the reason.
hi Arjayay I would like to explain the reason. Sorry If you are offended. Imwikki13 (talk) 18:41, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Please could you have a look at
Please could you have a look at Draft:Abhijit Iyer-Mitra. -- Toddy1 (talk) 19:53, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Toddy1 - I'm afraid I don't know almost anything about Abhijit Iyer-Mitra - however, unlike a lot of journalists, most of the references in the draft are about him, directly or indirectly, whereas many references in journalist articles are just what the journalist has written about other subjects - Arjayay (talk) 20:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for catching my double word. happens sometimes when I'm revising sentences a lot. Pokemonprime (talk) 22:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- No worries Pokemonprime it's what us WikiGnomes do, but it is nice to be appreciated occasionally - thanks - Arjayay (talk) 22:34, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Axzad
Editor replaced text with 4 sources, one Booksclinic (which by the way is used in several articles) - I don't know about the new sources. Says lost password to their earlier account last year. Doug Weller talk 12:22, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry Doug Weller I've no idea what Axzad is - and there is no User:Axzad either - what does this relate to?? - Arjayay (talk) 12:27, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oops.Chandra Shekhar Azad Sorry. Doug Weller talk 14:06, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Doug - I know very little about Indian poets, but the editor has only added Kanyakubja to Brahmin making Kanyakubja Brahmin and cited 3 "references".
The first is a The Times of India blog - as per WP:TOI The Times of India is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable, whilst the writer Amaresh Misra is a conspiracy theorist, although I'm not sure that is relevant in this case.
The second is a Google Books link to a book on Hindi authors and their poems, and does state that Chandrashekhar Azad is Kanyakubja, although the author, Ramaprasada Misra, appears to be an expert on poetry rather than Brahmin communities.
The third reference is a Google Books link to a book by Shrikrishna Saral who (according to Wikipedia(!)) wrote nationalist poetry about Indian revolutionaries. I cannot search that book, so cannot comment further.
Although the Kanyakubja Brahmin are considered upper class Brahmins, this is a fairly minor point, so, given the mention in the first (two albeit questionable) references and inability to disprove the third, I, personally, would WP:AGF and let it stand. - Arjayay (talk) 16:00, 10 November 2023 (UTC)- Thanks. Doug Weller talk 18:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Doug - I know very little about Indian poets, but the editor has only added Kanyakubja to Brahmin making Kanyakubja Brahmin and cited 3 "references".
- Oops.Chandra Shekhar Azad Sorry. Doug Weller talk 14:06, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
It's the little things
It's adding that extra brushstroke, that gave Mona Lisa the hint of a smile.
It's removing a doubled-up word, that makes the sentence right.
Thank you for all the little things @Arjayay MatthewDalhousie (talk) 01:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Here's a mess
[3]. Doug Weller talk 07:57, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed Doug Weller - if I could tweak one Wikipedia rule it would be to make page moves require extended confirmed access. We have dozens of these Indian placename moves, and a lot of rejected drafts moved to article space.
The Mohali move and Ram Setu copy-paste moves have been resolved but I can't move Balramgarh back to Ballabhgarh, a clear WP:RMUM violation, as I don't have the page mover user right - could you please? - thanks - Arjayay (talk) 09:35, 13 November 2023 (UTC)- Would you like the right? Doug Weller talk 09:55, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- I was afraid you would ask that Doug! I'm sure I've got enough to do, but it would help on occasions - so, yes please - Arjayay (talk) 10:04, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Doug Weller talk 10:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- I was afraid you would ask that Doug! I'm sure I've got enough to do, but it would help on occasions - so, yes please - Arjayay (talk) 10:04, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Would you like the right? Doug Weller talk 09:55, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Xona Games
Re: Xona Games
Arjayay, when you added [sic] to this page, you broke the wikitext formatting as there's already formatting depending on [] brackets. See for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xona_Games#References I reverted your edit and explained why, but you change it back (for the third time) while still breaking the code. Can you fix this? Thank you! Xonatron (talk) 04:27, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Xonatron - I have reverted myself, although the link still worked, albeit that part of the title was blue and part black. - Arjayay (talk) 14:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Juhi Chawla
Hi, Arjayay. The reason for my edit on page Juhi Chawla was that, she won the Miss India contest in 1984. She was 18 years old at that time. There are several articles on the net that confirm this. Since Miss India contest usually is held in Jan or Feb of each year and as she is born in November she can't be born in 1967 or 1966. She is born in 1965. Thanks - A1B3C5 (talk) 14:22, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- A1B3C5 - you didn't, and still haven't, cited WP:Reliable sources to support your change. - Arjayay (talk) 14:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
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Luo peoples
Hi Arjayay thank you for your contribution sometimes back in Luo peoples article. We have a user ending in 1618 who if you check his talk page, gets into so much edit wars almost in every page. He has reverted what you once restored and has asserted that "Nilotic" is ethnic and "Nilo-Shemitic is not ethnic." This user does not read the background of wikipedia articles nor checks references already cited. Please google http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/35/013.html Scores of articles there. In summary researchers placed groups as Nilotic when we mean geographical e.g. people who settled along river Nile. However, Nilo-Hamitic those are ethnic groups of people such as Koramojong, Teso, Lango,Kumam, Turkana etc. Then Nilo-Shemitic are ethnic grouping of Lwo peoples e.g. Acoli, Alur, Jo Padola, Lwo/Luo of Sudan, Lwo/Luo of Kenya, Tanzania, Congo etc and some other groups that I am yet to study; but this Nilo-Shemitic grouping does not include Langi, Kumam or Ateker peoples who although currently use borrowed Lwo/Luo words and speak a mixture of their Ateker languages and Lwo/Luo, they are not Lwo and their languages cannot be classed as Lwo/Luo either. This is what most editors have mentioned and are trying to correct what was wrongly placed in Ethnolgue. The editors noticed that there has been erros in placing the Langi and Kumam groups under Luo/Lwo, they are not Lwo/Luo nor is their language classification.
This gentle man ~1618 is not happy with the above, and has caused so much disruptions in Lango articles, Kumam, Ateker peoples right now. There are already many citations quoted in those articles, which does not support the man's arguments nor his new eddits. e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20201210010927id_/https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/29330/1/10731425.pdf from page 50 onwards show that Lango, Kumam, Teso etc are grouped under Paranilotes, Plain Nilotes aka Nilo-Hamites, the anthropologists noticed that Lango and Kumam had language shift in the 18th centuary and borrowed Lwo/Luo words as well as cultures but that Kumam or Lango clans are not Lwo/Luo clans up todate. They are grouped as Nilo-Hamites of Ateker peoples
Uzoigwe, G. N. The beginnings of Lango society : a review of evidence. OCLC 38562622.
Webster, James Bertin (1973). The Iteso during the asonya. East African Pub. House. pp. xxi.
If you can improve the Luo peoples article after doing your background work then I may have to raise the rest with some other eidtors to help too in improving the remaining articles. Or please let me know your suggestions. Thanks Ngunalik (talk) 10:48, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- I note that you have been involved in an extremely lengthy discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Ngunalik and there is a proposal that:-
- "Cookiemonster1618 and Ngunalik are indefinitely banned from interacting with each other, subject to the usual exceptions."
- You appear to be trying to work around that proposed interaction ban by involving third parties to make the changes you want for you. I am not willing to do so. - Arjayay (talk) 12:58, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Not entirely so as to work around to make the changes for me but rather for confusion of the articles to be resolved. I am concerened about the state of the articles to avoid giving misinformation to the public. Some how some editors who know the background of these articles would have to help this situation. I am sure there will be editors who will review articles in order to improve it from a general concensus point of view. I gave you resources so it was upto your on analysis. Ngunalik (talk) Ngunalik (talk) 16:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
Madhuri Dixit
Hi Aryajay again. For Madhuri Dixit also, there are several sources on the net stating that she was born in 1965 but I don't know how to add or replace references. Thanks - A1B3C5 (talk) 15:58, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- A1B3C5 Please read and follow Help:Referencing for beginners, and only cite WP:Reliable sources, with a reputation for fact checking, not blogs, fan-sites or sources that are not WP:Independent sources. There are a huge number of unacceptable sources about Indian films, such as "tabloids" and "coffee table" magazines, like StarsUnfolded. Please see WP:ICTFSOURCES and WP:RSNP for lists of acceptable/unacceptable references - Arjayay (talk) 20:58, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello! I've noticed you're very active improving the usage of reliable sources. Have you tried the oabot tool? I'd love to hear about your experience doing some edits with it. There are new suggested edits in the queue. Nemo 21:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)