User talk:Abukun

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Hi Abukun - yes, collaborating on the article sounds good! Please advise your student that they may get in touch with mine and they can coordinate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajcwritwiki (talk • contribs) 19:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Stereotypes of African Americans[edit]

Abukun, have you seen the discussion at the Teahouse of this student article, originally in mainspace as Stereotypes of African Americans (edited) ? The student made an unattributed copy of the existing article Stereotypes of African Americans—copying and pasting the headings including the "edit" link after each, but apparently copying and pasting the wiki-code for each section then removing the references and images, and for some reason also omitting the long introduction. They then edited the text to be more essayistic in style. Your comments at their talk page suggest you haven't looked at the article history as such, which is here. The student's total changes to the text can be found using the radio buttons on that page, with this "diff" result (the student attempted to add an image, which was deleted on Commons, so those successive changes aren't reflected in the compound diff). The student's initial save of the copied text is here; I got that by clicking on the date and time on the History page. Both the initial copying and pasting and the image upload were copyright violations, and you must be aware that copyvio is a serious matter; surely you've covered this in the Wikipedia editing materials for your class, but I don't see you talking about it with the student? Note that their draft has since been nominated for speedy deletion, with a standardized template added to their user talk page that is intentionally sternly worded because of the gravity of copyright violation; the speedy deletion nomination has been declined because other Wikipedians fixed the attribution problem. (The student also received notification on their Commons talk page that the image they uploaded had been nominated for deletion as a copyright violation; it appears to have been ripped off a CNN page.) You correctly noted the lack of an introduction, of adequate referencing, and of images in your evaluation on the student's talk page; but why did you not point out that they had removed all of those from the existing article? And why have you not responded at the Teahouse? I am wondering whether the editing interface the student used limited their view of the existing article or its wikicode, but the only tag I see on their edits is that they used the visual editor. I further wonder whether you yourself have been limited by working through the WikiEd dashboard and may not be seeing things like "pings", or have your students' drafts watchlisted? I am aware that the course ended on the 14th and that you are probably now either in the grading period or already on break, but in case you were indeed not fully aware of the issues that have been raised, I thought someone should drop you an extended note rather than the "pings" that have been made up to now. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:25, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your explanatory note, Yngvadottir. The student in question is aware that their actions were unacceptable—for all the reasons you note. I've run this assignment many times before and never had an issue with students violating copyrights, etc. But this student figured out a way to thwart my usual efforts to review student contributions. (All of the shenanigans you note.) Thanks again, and I especially appreciate you reaching out to me directly. Abukun (talk) 17:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]