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WikiCup 2012 April newsletter
Round 2 of this year's WikiCup is over, and so we are down to our final 32, in what could be called our quarter-finals. The two highest scorers from each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers overall, have entered round 3, while 30 participants have been eliminated. Pool B's 
Grapple X (submissions) remains our top scorer with over 700 points; he continues to gain high numbers of points for his good articles on The X-Files, but also Millennium and other subjects. He has also gained points for a good topic, a featured list, multiple good article reviews and several did you knows. Pool E's 
Casliber (submissions) was second, thanks primarily to his biology articles, with Pool H's 
Muboshgu (submissions) coming in third, with an impressive 46 did you knows, mostly on the subject of baseball. Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both scored over 600 points. Pools E and H proved our most successful, with each seeing 5 members qualify for round 3, while Pools C and D were the least, with each seeing only 3 reach round 3. However, it was Pool G which saw the lowest scoring, with a little under 400 points combined; Pool H, the highest scoring group, saw over triple that score.
65 points was the lowest qualifying score for round 3; significantly higher than the 11 required to enter round 2, and also higher than the 41 required to reach round 3 last year. However, in 2010, 100 points were needed to secure a place in round 3. 16 will progress to round 4. In round 3, 150 points was the 16th highest score, though, statistically, people tend to up their game a little in later rounds. Last year, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 points were needed. Guessing how many points will be required is not easy. We still have not seen any featured portals or topics this year, but, on the subject of less common content types, a small correction needs to be made to the previous newsletter: File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg, our first featured picture, was the work of both 
Matthewedwards (submissions) and 
Grandiose (submissions), the latter of whom has also gone on to score with File:Map of the Battle of Guam, 1944.svg. Bonus points also continue to roll in; this round, 
Ealdgyth (submissions) earned triple points for her good articles on William the Conqueror and the Middle Ages, Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both earned triple points for their work on Western Jackdaw, now a good article, 
Dana Boomer (submissions) earned triple points for her work on lettuce and work by 
Stone (submissions) to ready antimony for good article status earned him triple points. Jarry1250 (submissions) managed to expand Vitus Bering far enough for a did you know, which was also worth triple points. All of these highly important topics featured on 50 or more Wikipedias at the start of the year.
An article on the WikiCup in the Wikimedia Blog, "Improving Wikipedia with friendly competition", was posted at the end of April. This may be of interest to those who are signed up to this newsletter, as well as serving as another way to draw attention to our project. Also, we would again like to thank Jarry1250 (submissions) and Stone (submissions), for continued help behind the scenes. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:01, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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You prodded Storify and claimed "A search for references failed to find significant coverage in reliable sources to comply with notability requirements. This included web searches for news coverage, books, and journals". You need to improve your internet search abilities before you consider nominating any more articles for deletion because there is actually ample coverage in reliable sources. Even when you nominated it, the article linked to http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2087815_2088159_2088158,00.html, which should have been sufficient for you to realise that deletion was not uncontroversial - a requirement for PROD. I've restored and edited the article. Fences&Windows 10:19, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
WikiCup 2012 May newsletter
We're halfway through round 3 (or the quarter finals, if you prefer) and things are running smoothly. We're seeing very high scoring; as of the time of writing, the top 16 all have over 90 points. This has already proved to be more competative than this time last year- in 2011, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 was the lowest qualifying score. People have also upped their game slightly from last round, which is to be expected as we approach the end of the competition. Leading Pool A is 
Cwmhiraeth (submissions), whose points have mostly come from a large number of did you knows on marine biology. Pool B's leader, Grapple X (submissions), is for the first time not our highest scorer at the time of newsletter publication, but his good articles on The X-Files and Millenium keep him in second place overall. 
Miyagawa (submissions) leads Pool C, our quietest pool, with content in a variety of areas on a variety of topics. Pool D is led by Casliber (submissions), our current overall leader. Nearly half of Casliber's points come from his triple-scored Western Jackdaw, which is now a featured article.
This round has seen an unusually high number of featured lists, with nearly one in five remaining participants claiming one, and one user, Muboshgu (submissions), claiming two. Miyagawa's featured list, 1936 Summer Olympics medal table, was even awarded double points. By comparison, good article reviews seem to be playing a smaller part, and featured topics portals remain two content-types still unutilised in this competition. Other than that, there isn't much to say! Things are coming along smoothly. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2012 June newsletter
Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working. We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's 
igordebraga (submissions), who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's Grapple X (submissions), whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's Muboshgu (submissions), with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.
A quick note about other competitions taking place on Wikipedia which may be of interest. There are 13 days remaining in the June-July GAN backlog elimination drive, but it is not too late to take part. August will also see the return of The Core Contest- a one month long competition first run in 2007. While the WikiCup awards points for audited content on any subject, The Core Contest about is raw article improvement, focussing heavily on the most important articles on Wikipedia. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 10:40, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)
Credo Reference, who generously donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that:
- Link to Survey (should take between 5-10 minutes): http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N8FQ6MM
It also asks some basic questions about what you like about the Credo program and what you might want to improve.
At this time only the initial 400 editors have accounts, but even if you do not have an account, you still might want to weigh in on which resources would be most valuable for the community (for example, through WikiProject Resource Exchange).
Also, if you have an account but no longer want to use it, please leave me a note so another editor can take your spot.
If you have any other questions or comments, drop by my talk page or email me at wikiocaasi@yahoo.com. Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 17:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2012 July newsletter
We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's 
Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.
Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:15, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2012 August newsletter
The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:
Grapple X (submissions) once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially The X-Files and Millenium, with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
Miyagawa (submissions) led Pool A this round. Fourth-place finalist last year, Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, and has reached the final primarily off the back of his massive number of did you knows.
Ruby2010 (submissions) was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
Casliber (submissions) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
Muboshgu (submissions) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
Dana Boomer (submissions) was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance lettuce reach featured article status.
Sasata (submissions) is another WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist in 2009 and 2010. He writes mostly on mycology.
However, we must also say goodbye to the eight who did not make the final, having fallen at the last hurdle: 
GreatOrangePumpkin (submissions), Ealdgyth (submissions), Calvin999 (submissions), 
Piotrus (submissions), 
Toa Nidhiki05 (submissions), 
12george1 (submissions), 
The Bushranger (submissions) and 
1111tomica (submissions). We hope to see you all next year.
On the subject of next year, a discussion has been opened here. Come and have your say about the competition, and how you'd like it to run in the future. This brainstorming will go on for some time before more focused discussions/polls are opened. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:05, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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Oh, hi. I'm not actually a new user - I'm an old one with a new account (clean start, privacy). I got quite jaded with Wiki editing on a project I used to be part of because of a user who was misusing problem tags and constantly pushing for deletions on notability grounds because he didn't like the project, and wiped out a large portion of the articles it covered in doing so. Apparently he's since been banned for his actions, but it took far too long and it killed my enjoyment of editing, especially since I had put a large amount of effort into making improvements on articles across the project to address his concerns, so I stopped editing except for occasional IP edits for several years. I'll probably keep away from fiction this time round so I don't have to deal with that again.
Thanks for the welcome, though. --Poppy Appletree (talk) 18:00, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- I guessed that you were not new from the username and the fact you used edit summaries, but on the chance you weren't, welcomed. Abductive (reasoning) 18:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm new, so thanks for the welcome you sent me, Abductive - 'nice to have a human touch to all this : )Wedensambo (talk) 20:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- Anybody who says "advertorialising removed" in their edit summaries is alright by me. Abductive (reasoning) 21:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Hello!
I thought I'd drop by and take you up on your offer for help. I recently added a section on Travel Physical Therapy on the Physical Therapy page on Wikipedia. The content can be found in my sandbox, where I drafted it beforehand. It has been removed -- why would that happen? Isn't there a discussion that typically precedes such a choice? Should I have been contacted with some kind of notice? I'd rather not abandon the content if it was a useful contribution, but I'm concerned that I'm missing out on some Wikipedia rule, and don't want to cause any issues. OnwardOGH (talk) 15:23, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi & thanks for the welcome. I am totally new to this, but will attempt to contribute fully and within the spirit. Cheers for contacting me.DrSteveEllis (talk) 13:29, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2012 September newsletter
We're over half way through the final, and so it is less than a month until we know for certain our 2012 WikiCup champion. Grapple X (submissions) currently leads, followed by 
Sasata (submissions), Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and Casliber (submissions). However, we have no one resembling a breakaway leader, and so the competition is a long way from over. Next month's newsletter will feature a list of our winners (who are not necessarily only the finalists) and keep your eyes open for an article on the WikiCup in a future edition of The Signpost. The leaders are already on a par with last year's winners, but a long way from the huge scores seen in 2010. That said, a repeat of the competition from 2010 seems unlikely.
It is good to see that three-quarters of our finalists have already scored bonus points this round. This shows that, contrary to criticism that the WikiCup has received in the past, the competition does not merely incentivise the writing of trivial articles; instead, our top competitors are still spending their time contributing to high-importance articles, and bringing them to a high standard. This does a great service to the encyclopedia and its readers. Thank you, and good work!
The planning for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Some straw polls have been opened concerning the scoring, and you can now sign up for next year's competition. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 19:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2012 October newsletter
The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to Cwmhiraeth (submissions), our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: Dreamafter (2007), jj137 (2008), Durova (2009), Sturmvogel 66 (2010) and Hurricanehink (2011). Our final standings were as follows:
- Cwmhiraeth (submissions)
- Sasata (submissions)
- Grapple X (submissions)
- Casliber (submissions)
- Muboshgu (submissions)
- Miyagawa (submissions)
- Ruby2010 (submissions)
- Dana Boomer (submissions)
Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.
- The featured article award goes to Grapple X (submissions), for four featured articles in the final round.
- The good article award also goes to Grapple X (submissions), for 19 good articles in the second round.
- The list award goes to Muboshgu (submissions), for three featured lists in the final round.
- The topic award goes to Grapple X (submissions), for three good topics (with around 40 articles) in round 4.
- The did you know award goes to Cwmhiraeth (submissions), for well over 100 DYKs in the final round.
- The news award goes to
ThaddeusB (submissions), for 10 in the news items in round 3. - The picture award goes to
Grandiose (submissions), for two featured pictures in round 2. - The reviewer award goes to both Ruby2010 (submissions) (14 reviews in round 1) and Grandiose (submissions) (14 reviews in round 3).
- Finally, for achieving an incredible bonus point total in the final round, and for bringing the top-importance article frog to featured status, a biostar has been awarded to Cwmhiraeth (submissions).
Awards will be handed out in the coming days; please bear with us! This year's competition also saw fantastic contributions in all rounds, from newer Wikipedians contributing their first good or featured articles, right up to highly experienced Wikipedians chasing high scores and contributing to topics outside of their usual comfort zones. It would be impossible to name all of the participants who have achieved things to be proud of, but well done to all of you, and thanks! Wikipedia has certainly benefited from the work of this year's WikiCup participants.
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Concerning Necrolestes
Would it be better to edit the page Necrolestes to fit the genus, rather than turn it into a redirect for one species? After all, we haven't made a page for the second species yet.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:28, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- The consensus is to create both. As I saw it, the page was about the species, and the species has got lay media attention right now. So moving the article was a quick fix. Abductive (reasoning) 03:38, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- That sounds reasonable. We should get ahold the report discussing N. mirabilis, too, then.--Mr Fink (talk) 04:06, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- For our benefit, here is the article that describes N. mirabilis [1] though, it's in Spanish.--Mr Fink (talk) 04:17, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- I expanded the section on N. mirabilis and redirected the article to Necrolestes, since I don't think it would be proper to have an article for only one of two species in a genus without having a page for the genus itself. I would understand if you or someone else wanted to make separate pages for the two species, but removing all mention of the other species is a bit too far. N. mirabilis is especially important since Rougier et al. (2012) mention that its holotype "unambiguously demonstrates that the dental formula of Necrolestes includes three molars, two fully molarized premolars, and one nonmolariform premolar, in contrast to the four molars and three nonmolariform premolars seen in most metatherians." I don't want this to turn into an edit war, so can we please come to some sort of agreement on this? Dgrootmyers (talk) 22:48, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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Sand Hook Elementary Shooting
Do you have a WP:V source for the shooting details of the kids? I've been reading all morning and haven't found anything. Also, most reports contradict your addition by saying it was 15 and 5 not 14 and 6. Please add a verifiable source if you re-introduce those changes. Mkdwtalk 20:40, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
- Of course I have a source, look on the talk page under Talk:Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting#Problem with silence of Lanza claim. Abductive (reasoning) 21:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Removal of content
Hi there, I noticed you removed content I added to Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in your recent edit. I disagree with the removal; as mentioned in the citations provided, there has been discussion regarding the relationship between the events, warranting at least a mention on the page. Additionally, note that this section in the associated article makes a similar mention to Sandy Hook. —Entropy (T/C) 07:12, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- Blogs and op-eds are not WP:RS. Unless evidence surfaces that Lanza was influenced by the Chinese stabbing event, it stays out. Abductive (reasoning) 07:18, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- So you would argue that the section on Chenpeng Village Primary School stabbing referencing the Sandy Hook shooting should be removed? —Entropy (T/C) 07:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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Steubenville, Ohio
Thanks for your constructive edits to the Steubenville page.
Do you think the rape case deserves mention? That was the subject of the edit war leading to the page being protected. IPs were adding mention to the lead, then other IPs would remove mention. I don't think the rape belongs in the lead, but maybe some information should be added to sports or history? Maybe a new section is warranted? --Rawlangs (talk) 19:16, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- At present the sources aren't WP:RS. And there is the question of which page; the high school, the town or the county? So maybe in a few days. Abductive (reasoning) 19:26, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- As for sources, a lot came out last night and early this morning. NY Daily News, Atlantic Wire, Huffington Post, and Daily Mail all have stories up at this point. I think the problem is where to talk about it, but at least the page is semi-protected now (thanks to you). --Rawlangs (talk) 23:42, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
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I just saw your reply to this feedback message. I haven't looked at the sources myself and am predisposed to believe that the suggested changes were indeed incorrect, but I still don't see how your reply is acceptable by WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF standards. You're basically accusing an editor of racism for an entirely neutral, though probably incorrect, message. Huon (talk) 01:41, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
- I am saying the feedbacker is falling for a lie put forward by the worst kind of scum. These gun rights people are all waiting for the "ghettos to boil over" so they can start shooting. Abductive (reasoning) 01:58, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
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- Consensus is a tricky thing. One has to represent the worldwide view. I'll do as consensus demands. Whoever you are, you are not welcome on my talk page. Abductive (reasoning) 08:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- You may do as you like, just take note of the things I said above. Regards, m.o.p 09:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Consensus is a tricky thing. One has to represent the worldwide view. I'll do as consensus demands. Whoever you are, you are not welcome on my talk page. Abductive (reasoning) 08:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2013 January newsletter
Signups are now closed; we have our final 127 contestants for this year's competition. 64 contestants will make it to the next round at the end of February, but we're already seeing strong scoring compared to previous years. 
Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) currently leads, with 358 points. At this stage in 2012, the leader (
Grapple X (submissions)) had 342 points, while in 2011, the leader had 228 points. We also have a large number of scorers when compared with this stage in previous years. 12george1 (submissions) was the first competitor to score this year, as he was last year, with a detailed good article review. Some other firsts:
12george1 (submissions) was also the first to score for an article, with the good article Hurricane Gordon (2000). Again, this is a repeat of last year!
Buggie111 (submissions) was the first to score for a did you know, with Marquis Flowers.
Spencer (submissions) was the first to score for an in the news, with 2013 Houphouët-Boigny stampede.
Status (submissions) was the first to score for a featured list, with list of Billboard Social 50 number-one artists.- Adam Cuerden (submissions) was the first to score for a featured picture, with File:Thure de Thulstrup - L. Prang and Co. - Battle of Gettysburg - Restoration by Adam Cuerden.jpg.
Featured articles, portals and topics, as well as good topics, are yet to feature in the competition.
This year, the bonus points system has been reworked, with bonus points on offer for old articles prepared for did you know, and "multiplier" points reworked to become more linear. For details, please see Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. There have been some teething problems as the bot has worked its way around the new system, but issues should mostly be ironed out- please report any problems to the WikiCup talk page. Here are some participants worthy of note with regards to the bonus points:
Ed! (submissions) was the first to score bonus points, with Portland-class cruiser, a good article.
Hawkeye7 (submissions) has the highest overall bonus points, as well as the highest scoring article, thanks to his work on Enrico Fermi, now a good article. The biography of such a significant figure to the history of science warrants nearly five times the normal score.
HueSatLum (submissions) claimed bonus points for René Vautier and Nicolas de Fer, articles that did not exist on the English Wikipedia at the start of the year; a first for the WikiCup. The articles were eligible for bonus points because of fact they were both covered on a number of other Wikipedias.
Also, a quick mention of The C of E (submissions), who may well have already written the oddest article of the WikiCup this year: did you know that the Fucking mayor objected to Fucking Hell on the grounds that there was no Fucking brewery? The gauntlet has been thrown down; can anyone beat it?
If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
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Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. Please use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did, and feel free to use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Thank you. I don't want to template a regular, but please use civil language in an edit summary. R₵ 17:16, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- I think that editor really needs to get an MRI, there may be something really wrong. Abductive (reasoning) 17:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Eteocretan
Congratulations! You have destroyed a good page about an ancient language and replaced it with uninformed pseudeoscientific nonsense. Eteocretan is neither the language of the Linear A syllabary, nor is the Phaistos Disc in Linear A. I shall restore the destroyed page later today. WeepingElf (talk) 12:34, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- I somehow doubt you have WP:Reliable sources for that. Abductive (reasoning) 15:39, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- Where are your reliable sources??????? How are you goung to prove that Socrates was a cat? --WeepingElf (talk) 17:27, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2013 February newsletter
Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.
Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:
Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), primarily for an array of warship GAs.
Miyagawa (submissions), primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
Casliber (submissions), due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with 
Keilana (submissions), this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.
Other contributors of note include:
Sven Manguard (submissions), whose Portal:Massachusetts is the first featured portal this year. The featured portal process is one of the less well-known featured processes, and featured portals have traditionally had little impact on WikiCup scores.- Sasata (submissions), whose Mycena aurantiomarginata was the first featured article this year.
Muboshgu (submissions) and Wizardman (submissions), who both claimed points for articles in the Major League Baseball tie-breakers topic, the first topic points in the competition.- Toa Nidhiki05 (submissions), who claimed for the first full good topic with the Casting Crowns studio albums topic.
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Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by The C of E (submissions): did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...
March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!
A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 11:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi there ABDUCTIVE, AL here,
regarding this message (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:84.90.219.128), just to notify i already have an account. Thanks anyway!
Regards from Portugal --AL (talk) 03:11, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi there and thanks for the welcome message. I also have an account but sometimes it is just easier and less obtrusive to edit anonymously. That said I am glad there are folks like you extending welcomes to potential newcomers :) 212.113.145.253 (talk) 02:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Generally I only greet people who use edit summaries, so I am likely to catch people with accounts who are not signed in. Abductive (reasoning) 02:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Why? 50.100.190.31 (talk) 03:10, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- Generally I only greet people who use edit summaries, so I am likely to catch people with accounts who are not signed in. Abductive (reasoning) 02:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Abductive (reasoning), FactFerret sniffing by; Thanks for the links, one thing I need help with is the Logo on the Euclideon page, it's not even the latest version. I'd like to update it to reflect the new Euclideon site (accuracy), but it seems permanent and help guides are indistinct on the DIY. Factferret (talk) 05:52, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- I uploaded the image, just copied the text from the old logo's page, then changed the filename in the infobox. Abductive (reasoning) 07:27, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Abductive (reasoning)! Appreciate the assist on that, time to go read what you added and see the implementation. Factferret (talk) 23:06, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
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It occurs to me that I never thanked you for creating my talk page with a "Welcome" message. I certainly appreciated it at the time; I was pleased that someone had noticed the two or three edits I'd made and, I presumed, had checked that they were constructive. And the links in the "Welcome" message were intriguing and got me interested in the behind-the-scenes pages. So, three years and 185,000 edits later - thank you! -- John of Reading (talk) 22:04, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I try to greet users who I think will become editors. Looks like I found one! Abductive (reasoning) 03:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
WikiCup 2013 March newsletter
We are halfway through round two. Pool A sees the strongest competition, with five out of eight of its competitors scoring over 100, and Pool H is lagging, with half of its competitors yet to score. WikiCup veterans lead overall; Pool A's Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) (2010's winner) leads overall, with poolmate 
Miyagawa (submissions) (a finalist in 2011 and 2012) not far behind. Pool F's 
Casliber (submissions) (a finalist in 2010, 2011 and 2012) is in third. The top two scorers in each pool, as well as the next highest 16 scorers overall, will progress to round three at the end of April.
Today has seen a number of Easter-themed did you knows from WikiCup participants, and March has seen collaboration from contestants with WikiWomen's History Month. It's great to see the WikiCup being used as a locus of collaboration; if you know of any collaborative efforts going on, or want to start anything up, please feel free to use the WikiCup talk page to help find interested editors. As well as fostering collaboration, we're also seeing the Cup encouraging the improvement of high-importance articles through the bonus point system. Highlights from the last month include GAs on physicist Niels Bohr (
Hawkeye7 (submissions)), on the European hare ( Cwmhiraeth (submissions)), on the constellation Circinus (
Keilana (submissions) and Casliber (submissions)) and on the Third Epistle of John (
Cerebellum (submissions)). All of these subjects were covered on at least 50 Wikipedias at the beginning of the year and, subsequently, each contribution was awarded at least three times as many points as normal.
Wikipedians who enjoy friendly competition may be interested in participating in April's wikification drive. While wikifying an article is typically not considered "significant work" such that it can be claimed for WikiCup points, such gnomish work is often invaluable in keeping articles in shape, and is typically very helpful for new writers who may not be familiar with formatting norms.
A quick reminder: now, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 22:25, 31 March 2013 (UTC)