Template:Did you know nominations/Siderography

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:44, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Siderography

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• ... that siderography, a process to produce counterfeit-resistant banknotes, was submitted for a contest established by the Bank of England in an era when English banknotes were known as "filthy rags"? The Making of National Money: Territorial Currencies in Historical Perspective, pg 56: "The experience also led a widespread consensus in England that paper money-what some contemporaries called "filthy rags"-should not be used as a low-denomination, mass currency." and pg 90, "Their opposition stemmed partly from England's experience of an inconvertible currency during the Napoleonic was when they had witnessed the poor quality of Bank of England notes-the "filthy rags"-and widespread counterfeiting."
  • ALT1:... that the International Association of Siderographers dissolved in 1991 after retirements and technological advances reduced its membership to eight people? Source: International Association of Siderographers archives "By 1991, membership was reduced to a total of eight, and the International Association was dissolved shortly thereafter."

• Reviewed: Robin Hood v. United States (see my DYK tracker)

Moved to mainspace by Mindmatrix (talk). Self-nominated at 03:07, 17 January 2017 (UTC).

• Article is new enough (in mainspace) and long enough. None of the sources are accessible for me so AGFing on them all. No copyvio or plagiarism visible anywhere. Both hooks are moderately interesting and supported by text, the source for the first one does not seem to contain a reference to "siderography" so only approving ALT1. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:06, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

• @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Sorry, I forgot to include the supporting text for that in the hook. It appears on page 58 of the same book, split over two sentences in the same paragraph. First, "Perkins then went one step further and developed a mechanical technique—siderography—that allowed...", and second "Interestingly, the Bank of England was unimpressed with Perkin's idea when it was submitted to its competition". Earlier in the paragraph is the statement "...but he was the first to develop it into a workable technique for reducing forgery". All are already cited in the text. That should cover all aspects of the first hook. Mindmatrix 13:37, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
• I've replaced the original hook with ALT2, which is mostly the same but shorter (187 characters instead of 196). Same sources, including those in my note above. Mindmatrix 16:33, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

• ALT2:... that siderography, a process to produce counterfeit-resistant banknotes, was submitted for a Bank of England contest in an era when English banknotes were known as "filthy rags"? The Making of National Money: Territorial Currencies in Historical Perspective, pg 56: "The experience also led a widespread consensus in England that paper money-what some contemporaries called "filthy rags"-should not be used as a low-denomination, mass currency." and pg 90, "Their opposition stemmed partly from England's experience of an inconvertible currency during the Napoleonic was when they had witnessed the poor quality of Bank of England notes-the "filthy rags"-and widespread counterfeiting."

  That one seems OK as well. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)