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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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Rosenheim Mansion

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Rosenheim Mansion
Rosenheim Mansion

Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:40, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rosenheim Mansion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - I am not convinced that Roadtrippers is a reliable source (and could find no mention of it at WP:RSP). No sources for its information are cited, and I worry that it might be pulling from unreliable sources like Atlas Obscura or even the AHS Wiki (which is also poorly sourced). It seems more like a directory like TripAdvisor, maybe posted by a staff writer, maybe user-generated. That combined with the numerous grammar/spelling errors do not instill confidence. I think it's best if we replace it and find better sources for that information. I'm particularly concerned with the bit about A.J. McQuatters; the claim that he was gay seems like pure speculation. I think a lot of this can be solved with a trip to archives like Newspapers.com; in fact, I already found mention of the sale to McQuatters, which I've clipped here and here for you. One thing to keep an eye on is the word count; if we are to just blanket remove everything only cited by Roadtrippers, the article might not meet 1500 prose characters, but there's still plenty of room to expand this article. There should be an official source out there supporting its historic listing (maybe here?).
Smaller thing: Gothic architecture is cited in the infobox but not inline.
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: QPQ N/A, Earwig 8.4%. Image license checked and cleared for commercial reuse and alteration. The image caption should be descriptive of the article, e.g. "Rosenheim Mansion". The hook source included here doesn't support the phrasing that the owners sued for the non-disclosure, but the other two inline citations support it.

The Tudor/Gothic architecture wikilinks should go to Tudor Revival architecture and Gothic Revival architecture, respectively, as the current wikilinks go to Tudor architecture and Gothic architecture. Although these styles are not explicitly stated in sources to be Revival, because the original styles were confined to late medieval Europe, their presence in the US implies this.

Overall, the sourcing issue needs to be resolved (while ensuring character count is still met), a couple of other tweaks made, and once that's done, we can proceed. – TCMemoire 23:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

I have addressed all the issues. - DarkNight0917 | (t/c) 01:00, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
@DarkNight0917: The phrases (lived there) in the early 1930s, After the mansion was damaged in the 1994 Northridge earthquake, the nuns sold it for $3 million, and The stair hall is bowed and turreted are still not supported by the inline sources you've added. They either need to be sourced or removed.
One other quick thing I've fixed for you: per Wikipedia:Newspapers.com, when we cite Newspapers.com, we should add the via=[[Newspapers.com]] parameter to the cite template, as it's a database. This is especially important if accessing from Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library (I clipped from my personal account, but worth mentioning). – TCMemoire 11:05, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
My bad. I've removed two of the three statements you've listed above and added a source for the other. - DarkNight0917 | (t/c) 03:53, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
@TCMemoire: Have all the concerns been resolved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 19:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
@Z1720: Oh gosh, my apologies, thank you for the ping as this nom completely slipped off my radar! Sourcing has been fixed and I am now happy to pass this one. @DarkNight0917: Also thank you for fixing the COI/NPOV material added by IPs. – TCMemoire 23:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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