Template:Did you know nominations/No Child Left Behind (song)

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

No Child Left Behind (song)

Converted from a redirect by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 07:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC).

  • The article as it stands consists of about 1430 bytes (excluding infobox, headers, tables, and ref markers). This is slightly too short for DYK. Nominated for DYK less than one day after conversion from redirect. QPQ completed. I'll complete the review once the article satisfies the length criterion. Mindmatrix 20:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for checking the length properly, I apologize for this being slightly off and I have increased it now by adding background info. I await the rest of your comments, hopefully this reaches the DYK page soon enough! K. Peake 21:51, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
  • @Kyle Peake: Article is now of sufficient length. The background section states "Vory was revealed to have vocals on multiple songs", but that is drawn from the @TeamKanyeDaily Twitter account, which is operated by fans (ie - it is not an official account). You can instead state that fans collected this info into a tracklist. Please don't use phrases such as "Vory emphasized", "Vory revealed", "The rapper opened up", or "expressing of them collaborating" (see WP:SAID for reasoning). Also, what do you mean by the term 'considered' in "...creating a strong, considered discography..."? (Its in the source as well, and no clearer there.) There are a number of unsourced quotations in the background section; I can see they appear in this XXL piece, which is included at the end of the paragraph, but generally quotations should be cited where they occur (ie - at the end of the quotation or the sentence in which it occurs). The last sentence in the background section is too similar to the source material. The statement "resembling an ascent to heaven" should not be made in Wikipedia's voice - it should be quoted and attributed to the source making that claim. Also, is "delivered harmonies" accurate? Is there a better choice of words than 'delivered'? And is "listening event" just a substitute for "concert", or does it refer to some other event? Regarding the chart performance, VG-Lista for Norway does not include the song, the Billboard US Christian Songs has it at 15, and the Billboard US Gospel Songs returns "Page not found". Hooks are OK and sourced, though I think associating it to Bieber may detract from the intended target of the hook. Mindmatrix 14:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I used a different source for the opening sentence about Vory and also changed the content, worked against using language that the guideline opposes, replaced considered with a clearer meaning while axing strong and paraphrasing that sentence, as well as invoking the XXL ref for any sentences with a quote. Variety made the heavens statement, so I attributed it to them and revised the harmonies part. Regarding the charts, I was supposed to add the week 35 URL for Norway but forgot as the old revision shows in the title, I edited the peaks for the charts since I probably misread them and added the new URL for West's Gospel Songs history. Furthermore, I added Bieber in on purpose because I thought it would be interesting that West's group specifically performed it with such a well-known singer. Thanks for your comments; I hope this makes it to DYK now! K. Peake 17:27, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Issues have been addressed. Good to go. Mindmatrix 15:21, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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