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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 03:21, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

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Israel College of the Bible[edit]

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Created by HanniChilds (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 18:36, 7 November 2014 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough. However, the article largely relies on the college's own website. Israel Today is a free throwaway, and only Arutz Sheva and Maariv are acceptable secondary references, though they only describe the opposition to the school. The page needs more independent references to prove notability. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 21:25, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
  • My only interest in this article is that I accepted it at AfC. The idea that a college that runs degree courses is not intrinsically notable seems strange to me. I have supplied a further outside source (the Asia Theological Association) and removed your notability tags, and in case you don't care for my original hook, I suggest ALT1
  • The Asia Theological Association source is just a school listing; it does not prove notability. I also thought a college was intrinsically notable, but that's not the message I've gotten from years of participation in AFDs for yeshivas. Without significant coverage in secondary sources, it does not pass WP:NSCHOOL or WP:GNG. If the page creator does not add more independent references, I'll nominate it at AFD. Yoninah (talk) 09:24, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Note: the creator of this article only ever worked on it, and has only edited Wikipedia on three days: September 1, 12, and 22. Yoninah, while you may want to wait the full week from your notification on the creator's talk page to begin the AfD, I very much doubt it's going to make any difference. Also, the use of "warmly" seemed POVish to me. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:48, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Now at AFD. Yoninah (talk) 20:09, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
  • @Cwmhiraeth: thank you for adding additional sources. I wish you had done that before I went to AFD and had everyone jump on me. I have withdrawn the AFD and we can now proceed. There are a few citation tags in the lead that still need to be cleared up, or the text deleted. I am also unable to locate any of the information cited to Footnote 5. Are you able to provide more specific URLs? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:14, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
  • I have dealt with these points. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you for taking care of the cn tags. I have added more specific URLs to the college's website. Wrapping up the review: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. I think ALT1 is more interesting than the first hook. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline. QPQ done. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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