Template:Did you know nominations/Harinder Malhi

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The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:41, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Harinder Malhi[edit]

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... that before she was elected to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario in 2014, Harinder Malhi was a school trustee and real estate agent?

ALT1:... that Harinder Malhi won an election representing the Liberal Party of Ontario, and her father Gurbax Singh Malhi won elections representing the Liberal Party of Canada?
Reviewed: Wolk v. Kodak Imaging Network Inc. (see my DYK tracker)

Created by Mindmatrix (talk). Self nominated at 18:44, 13 June 2014 (UTC).

I prefer ALT1, the first one is a bit bland as there is nothing unusual or special about someone having an every day job before running for political office. Valenciano (talk) 08:08, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Per DYK Reviewing guide In addition to at least 1,500 characters of readable prose, the article must not be a stub. This requires a judgement call, since there is no mechanical stub definition (see the Croughton-London rule). If an article is, in fact, a stub, you should temporarily reject the nomination; if the article is not a stub, ensure that it is correctly marked as a non-stub, by removing any stub template(s) in the article, and changing any talk-page assessments to start-class or higher. — Maile (talk) 22:10, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I had already removed the stub notice from the article page several days ago; I've now updated the talk page banner assessment from stub to start. Mind matrix 20:18, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Verifying the stub was removed. Needs full review. — Maile (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

New enough, long enough, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. QPQ done. However, both hooks are a little dull. What do you think about:
ALT2: ... that Brampton, Ontario school trustee Harinder Malhi lost CA$2,224 of her salary when she took a month off to campaign for a seat in the provincial legislature, which she won? Yoninah (talk) 23:37, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

To be honest, I only included that tidbit of info for completeness. She wasn't the only person to do this (in fact, others from the same school board also did this), so it's not really a significant detail. The article is somewhat dry and lacking interesting details, unfortunately, so there isn't much to draw on to create an interesting hook. I've also added ALT3 below, butI have no preference for any hook. I've tried ferreting out new sources and info without luck so far. Mind matrix 19:10, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

ALT3: ... that Canadian school trustee Harinder Malhi took an unpaid leave of absence to campaign in the 2014 Ontario election as a candidate for the Brampton—Springdale riding, which she won?

While your new hook is certainly accurate, it's not hooky. Other trustees may have also lost money (the source you cited mentioned another trustee who lost twice as much salary as Malhi), but let's face it, your article is about Harinder Malhi, and you want people to click on your hook. Numbers and figures always jazz up a hook. Calling for a new reviewer to decide. Yoninah (talk) 21:02, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

@ Yoninah. I've just noticed you've nearly reached your 100th DYK - just two to go? Ping me for the banner when the time comes (unless someone else gets there first).--Storye book (talk) 14:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Re the dull hooks: hmm, yes. I googled Malhi and there is only the dryest information out there. I think these hooks are as good as we're going to get. Positive part of initial review by Yoninah still stands. All hooks are acceptable, the longest being 182 characters. Original hook checks out online with citation #5. ALTS 2 and 3 both check out with a combination of online citations #7 and #8. Article is objective and neutral. Issue: The first part of ALT1 (about Harinder) checks out online with citation #2. However, although the second part of the hook (about Gurbax Singh) is repeated in the article, the same source does not mention the Liberal Party of Canada. Please explain what I've missed, or provide another source. This nom is already good to go with the orginal hook, and ALTs 2 and 3 - but I'm delaying this one (against my principles!) in case Mindmatrix really really wants ALT1. --Storye book (talk) 14:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm not attached to any hook, so proceed as you wish. Note that the second part of ALT1 is supported by the ref; it states: "Gurbax Malhi, a former Liberal MP who held a nearby seat for 18 years, wasn’t far away, beaming at his daughter, soon to be a rookie MPP." - note that in Ontario MPP refers to Member of Provincial Parliament, and MP refers to Member of Parliament (in this case, in the Canadian House of Commons), implying Gurbax Singh is a federal Liberal. At any rate, I've added another source for completeness to remove any ambiguity. Mind matrix 15:12, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Mindmatrix, now I get it! All issues resolved. Good to go with original hook, or ALTs1, 2 or 3. --Storye book (talk) 15:22, 4 July 2014 (UTC)