Template:Did you know nominations/Black Sign Variation

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 13:38, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Black Sign Variation[edit]

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~~... that the last school for the Black deaf was integrated in 1978, 24 years after Brown v. Board legally required integration?~~

ALT1:... that Black signers of ASL use a different dialect than White signers of ASL?
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Seaman-Drake Arch
Comment: Started in my user space on 20 March 2015 and moved to mainspace on 4 April.

Created by Wugapodes (talk). Self-nominated at 21:33, 4 April 2015 (UTC).

DYK checklist template

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: With one exception, all core requirements are met for this fascinating article. I am referring, of course, to missing cites needed to "close" the article's paragraphs. Supply those, and the article should be good to go. The editor should be commended on originating the graphic supplied with the article.Georgejdorner (talk) 21:02, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Georgejdorner Thank you for reviewing my submission and for your feedback. I'm unsure of what you mean by "cites needed to "close" the paragraph" in your comment at Template:Did you know nominations/Black Sign Variation. Is it simply that each paragraph should have a citation at the end for the information within it or is there another meaning I'm unaware of such as specific paragraphs need citations? Wugapodes (talk) 03:49, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I have supplied the minimal number of "cites needed" tags in the article to fulfill the DYK requirements. Additional cites are welcome, of course.Georgejdorner (talk) 15:31, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I have fixed the citation issues you tagged. If there's any other recommendations, feel free to offer them. Thanks for your work! Wugapodes (talk) 21:03, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

This interesting article is good to go.Georgejdorner (talk) 17:40, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Pulled from prep because the hook implies that a school not being desegregated until 1978 was somehow unusual, as if Brown "legally" required immediate desegregation, which it didn't. I think ALT1's much more interesting anyway. EEng (talk) 00:33, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Marking with a new icon to indicate that the previous tick no longer holds (and to keep it from showing up as approved on the List of DYK Hooks by Date). EEng, it would help if in future you preface your "pulled from prep" messages with a new icon. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:51, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

This is my first DYK so forgive the questions, but is there anything that I ought to do so that ALT 1 can be put into prep? I obviously like both hooks as I nominated them and would be fine with ALT1 appearing, I'm just not sure if something needs to be done for that to happen. Wugapodes (talk) 05:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Welcome, and I hope this bump in the road doesn't discourage you -- lots of nominations go through something like this. I hope you understand why I feel the first hook isn't acceptable, as mentioned above. And now that I look at it, ALT1 is problematic as well, since it implies that all black signers use BASL, and I don't see how anyone can possibly know that. Might I suggest...

ALT2 ... that Black American Sign Language (BASL) is a dialect of American Sign Language used predominantly by the African American Deaf in the United States?

I'm calling the reviewer, Georgejdorner, back to approve that, but feel free to suggest another hook as well. EEng (talk) 11:28, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

New reviewer needed to check ALT2, since original one hasn't returned in over three weeks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:13, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

sentences supporting hook have cites, one offline the other a video. Accepted in good faith. Good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)